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duckiejen23
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5/6/2011 12:36:41 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
I has been brought to my attention that the user by the name of askbob has threatened and harassed users, interfered with voting, and engaged in behavior that is in direct violation with the terms of use as agreed to in debate.org.

While many users on this site enjoy the liveliness of an open forum and relish the drama that endures in various debates, cyber-bullying has never been a problem until askbob has taken it upon himself to "correct" debates. His actions are indicative of a man who obviously has too much time on his hands as evidenced by his forums talks, insults, and band of brotherhood who pull temper tantrums due to losing one debate or another.

While I agree that vote bombing may be an issue on this site, it is the duty of the site administrators to change their policies to mitigate this problem. Askbob's actions as debate police are without authority or merit. Comments associated with each vote directly explain why a person voted the way he or she did. Askbob's objection is to the vote, not the debate, and constitutes improper use the voting schema and a complete lack of respect for anyone who took the time to read the debate and vote accordingly.

Hiding behind a computer with personal attacks against users is unjustified. Posting personal information for the purposes of harassment is simply repugnant. I implore the users of debate.org to band together and bring the actions of askbob to the attention of the site's administrators.
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5/6/2011 12:46:32 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/6/2011 12:36:41 AM, duckiejen23 wrote:
I has been brought to my attention

Or it was brought to my attention by several members that you and bobchatman were votebombing each other.

cyber-bullying has never been a problem until askbob

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Hiding behind a computer with personal attacks against users is unjustified. Posting personal information for the purposes of harassment is simply repugnant.

I don't see how it's personal if it's on the internet, it's public

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5/6/2011 12:47:35 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
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Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
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5/6/2011 12:48:08 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/6/2011 12:36:41 AM, duckiejen23 wrote:
bring the actions of askbob to the attention of the site's administrators.

There is a report comment, report debate, report profile option available to you.
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5/6/2011 12:51:00 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
I'm a law student trying to juggle my school live with actual "living". ... duckiejen23 is a 27yr-old single woman in Sacramento, California
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
jharry
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5/6/2011 12:52:15 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Hey, has the term "reportbomb" been coined yet? Nay, it sounds silly when you actually say it. But it could be effective.
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5/6/2011 1:00:37 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/6/2011 12:58:06 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
I concur with Puck. There are plenty of preexisting mechanisms you can use to report him if you find his behavior objectionable.

I'm assuming she knows this. I doubt that is the point of this thread. I could be wrong, I dunno.
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5/6/2011 1:03:29 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/6/2011 1:00:37 AM, jharry wrote:
At 5/6/2011 12:58:06 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
I concur with Puck. There are plenty of preexisting mechanisms you can use to report him if you find his behavior objectionable.

I'm assuming she knows this. I doubt that is the point of this thread. I could be wrong, I dunno.

She's trying to rally people to the cause. If enough people were really bothered, though, it's likely they would have taken advantage of the clearly-placed mechanisms already.
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5/6/2011 1:04:40 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Have the new owners made a call on RFDs like

"I'm not voting on the merits of the debate, the person I'm voting against won but I personally believe they were votebombing"

I would love to hear the ruling on that one. That could make this a whole new ball game.
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duckiejen23
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5/6/2011 1:04:45 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
The rationale behind this thread is to ask if other users have found askbob's tantics repugnant to the mission of this site.

I am aware of reporting mechanisms and have used a few already.

Thanks guys!
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5/6/2011 1:06:17 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/6/2011 1:04:45 AM, duckiejen23 wrote:
The rationale behind this thread is to ask if other users have found askbob's tantics repugnant to the mission of this site.

I personally find votebombing repugnant to the mission of this site, i suggest you stop doing it, and then I won't be forced to negate it.
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
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5/6/2011 1:09:49 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/6/2011 1:03:29 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 5/6/2011 1:00:37 AM, jharry wrote:
At 5/6/2011 12:58:06 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
I concur with Puck. There are plenty of preexisting mechanisms you can use to report him if you find his behavior objectionable.

I'm assuming she knows this. I doubt that is the point of this thread. I could be wrong, I dunno.

She's trying to rally people to the cause. If enough people were really bothered, though, it's likely they would have taken advantage of the clearly-placed mechanisms already.

Well you have to admit it has not been so out in the open until now. There have been several threads on the topic in the last few days. Maybe someone might start a pm crusade to gather votes, I mean reports, it's probably been done in the past.:)
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5/6/2011 1:10:31 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/6/2011 1:09:49 AM, jharry wrote:
At 5/6/2011 1:03:29 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 5/6/2011 1:00:37 AM, jharry wrote:
At 5/6/2011 12:58:06 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
I concur with Puck. There are plenty of preexisting mechanisms you can use to report him if you find his behavior objectionable.

I'm assuming she knows this. I doubt that is the point of this thread. I could be wrong, I dunno.

She's trying to rally people to the cause. If enough people were really bothered, though, it's likely they would have taken advantage of the clearly-placed mechanisms already.

Well you have to admit it has not been so out in the open until now. There have been several threads on the topic in the last few days. Maybe someone might start a pm crusade to gather votes, I mean reports, it's probably been done in the past.:)
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
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5/6/2011 1:13:13 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/6/2011 1:04:45 AM, duckiejen23 wrote:
The rationale behind this thread is to ask if other users have found askbob's tantics repugnant to the mission of this site.

I find you repugnant duckiejen I find you repugnant.
does it really bother you that much?

I am aware of reporting mechanisms and have used a few already.

Thanks guys!

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5/6/2011 1:14:01 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/6/2011 1:09:49 AM, jharry wrote:
At 5/6/2011 1:03:29 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 5/6/2011 1:00:37 AM, jharry wrote:
At 5/6/2011 12:58:06 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
I concur with Puck. There are plenty of preexisting mechanisms you can use to report him if you find his behavior objectionable.

I'm assuming she knows this. I doubt that is the point of this thread. I could be wrong, I dunno.

She's trying to rally people to the cause. If enough people were really bothered, though, it's likely they would have taken advantage of the clearly-placed mechanisms already.

Well you have to admit it has not been so out in the open until now. There have been several threads on the topic in the last few days. Maybe someone might start a pm crusade to gather votes, I mean reports, it's probably been done in the past.:)

Might start a PM crusade? I think you might want to speak in the past tense, chap. At least, that's what my instincts are telling me at the moment. I only feel bad insofar as I realize how unfruitful such an endeavor would be.
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5/6/2011 1:14:24 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/6/2011 12:51:00 AM, askbob wrote:
I'm a law student trying to juggle my school live with actual "living". ... duckiejen23 is a 27yr-old single woman in Sacramento, California

Lol, U mad brah?
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5/6/2011 1:14:59 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/6/2011 1:04:45 AM, duckiejen23 wrote:
The rationale behind this thread is to ask if other users have found askbob's tantics repugnant to the mission of this site.

Generally, no. Askbob doesn't randomly target innocent people, he takes care of the people who ruin the site through votebombing, spamming, and multi-accounting. Do I always agree with his methods? No, but I'll take him over people like you any day.

Id just like to add that joshandr30, er, I mean jharry, given his history on this site, is really in no position to be critical of anybody.
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5/6/2011 1:15:14 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/6/2011 1:14:24 AM, jharry wrote:
At 5/6/2011 12:51:00 AM, askbob wrote:
I'm a law student trying to juggle my school live with actual "living". ... duckiejen23 is a 27yr-old single woman in Sacramento, California

Lol, U mad brah?

mad as in insanely laughing while smoking a pipe
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kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
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5/6/2011 1:16:07 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/6/2011 1:06:17 AM, askbob wrote:
I personally find votebombing repugnant to the mission of this site, i suggest you stop doing it, and then I won't be forced to negate it.

Are you saying that because two people are friends they are not allowed to vote for each others debates? You countered one of my "vote bombs" which was not at all 7 and posted on a debate that was clearly all to one side, and i justified it as much in the comments, as well as the response when i posted my vote.

You are not bothering to actually read the context of the vote for what constitutes its reasons and choosing to instead just go hyperbolic. The real repugnant aspect is that you think that you are achieving something positive with this ridiculous campaign of vote bombing what you and a select few others deem vote bombers. If you would read the debates and the responses you would see the justification for any vote that was cast.
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5/6/2011 1:17:15 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/6/2011 1:16:07 AM, Bob_Gneu wrote:
At 5/6/2011 1:06:17 AM, askbob wrote:
I personally find votebombing repugnant to the mission of this site, i suggest you stop doing it, and then I won't be forced to negate it.

Are you saying that because two people are friends they are not allowed to vote for each others debates?

Have you ever voted one point against duckiejen? Remember we can see when you change your vote.
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
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5/6/2011 1:17:39 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
has duckiejen ever voted one point against you?
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
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5/6/2011 1:19:39 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/6/2011 1:16:07 AM, Bob_Gneu wrote:
At 5/6/2011 1:06:17 AM, askbob wrote:
I personally find votebombing repugnant to the mission of this site, i suggest you stop doing it, and then I won't be forced to negate it.

Are you saying that because two people are friends they are not allowed to vote for each others debates? You countered one of my "vote bombs" which was not at all 7 and posted on a debate that was clearly all to one side, and i justified it as much in the comments, as well as the response when i posted my vote.

You are not bothering to actually read the context of the vote for what constitutes its reasons and choosing to instead just go hyperbolic. The real repugnant aspect is that you think that you are achieving something positive with this ridiculous campaign of vote bombing what you and a select few others deem vote bombers. If you would read the debates and the responses you would see the justification for any vote that was cast.

ugh
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5/6/2011 1:19:49 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Vote-bombing is not the topic for this forum. Reading your other forums, you seem to be taking that topic without any help from me. Your harassment, on the other hand, is the topic for this forum.

I understand your qualms with vote-bombing. But how does googleing duckiejen23 and implying that the user is me help negate vote-bombing? Are these tactics meant to scare me?
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5/6/2011 1:20:30 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/6/2011 1:14:59 AM, J.Kenyon wrote:
At 5/6/2011 1:04:45 AM, duckiejen23 wrote:
The rationale behind this thread is to ask if other users have found askbob's tantics repugnant to the mission of this site.

Generally, no. Askbob doesn't randomly target innocent people, he takes care of the people who ruin the site through votebombing, spamming, and multi-accounting. Do I always agree with his methods? No, but I'll take him over people like you any day.

Id just like to add that joshandr30, er, I mean jharry, given his history on this site, is really in no position to be critical of anybody.

Critical? Lol, relax son.
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5/6/2011 1:21:10 AM
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At 5/6/2011 1:18:19 AM, Rob1_Billion wrote:
Askbob is going to eventually start allowing waterboarding to unearth votebombing and alternate accounts...

lol at the word "unearth"

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5/6/2011 1:22:04 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 5/6/2011 1:19:49 AM, duckiejen23 wrote:
Vote-bombing is not the topic for this forum.

Oh isn't it?

Are these tactics meant to scare me?

Do they scare you?
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kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
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5/6/2011 1:22:32 AM
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Yeah, askbob is a dick. Yes, people get freaked out by it.

Seriously, how big of a poosie do you have to be to be freaked out by someone calling your house and threatening to explore your French spots?

His antics are very entertaining.

Apparently enough to where he's probably going to win the election.. Unless of course people wise up and vote for me, as I sweat awesome and sh!t cobras.

You don't fvck with a guy who shits cobras.
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5/6/2011 1:23:27 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Lmao! Is there a new anti askbob campaign going on now or something?
I often don't agree with the way askbob "does things" but he still solves problems.
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