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askbob
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6/25/2011 12:52:21 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
I'm giving my first warning to the moderators. You don't want vigilante action on my part yet you refuse to remove many debates that I have reported. It's seriously hurting the quality of this site appearing on the front page. If you're seriously paying a third party moderation system (which I seriously doubt) then you need to pick a new company this is pathetic with most debates taking at least 3 - 4 weeks to be removed. Also I'd like to thank the user relations committee for helping to report, and vote down popularity wise these debates. I can't imagine what the response would have been like if it was just me doing it. If you are interested in getting these spam debates on a regular basis to report/vote down just let me know and I'll add you to the pm.

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Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
askbob
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6/25/2011 1:05:10 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Recently reported

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Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
GMDebater
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6/25/2011 1:16:09 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Second Please remove. We need a mod squad. I nominate askbob for that task
We're both atheists. I just believe in one less god than you.
askbob
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6/25/2011 1:18:22 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
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Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
askbob
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6/25/2011 1:31:05 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Also brainmaster needs to stop or be banned

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Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
darkkermit
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6/25/2011 1:34:34 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
I really don't see the problem.

Some people are either bad debaters or don't want to put in too much effort. What difference does it make?

I didn't even notice or care about these debates until now. As long as there is no overtly offensive material, who care?
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6/25/2011 1:38:33 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/25/2011 1:34:34 AM, darkkermit wrote:
I really don't see the problem.

Some people are either bad debaters or don't want to put in too much effort. What difference does it make?

I didn't even notice or care about these debates until now. As long as there is no overtly offensive material, who care?

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Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
darkkermit
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6/25/2011 1:52:32 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/25/2011 1:38:33 AM, askbob wrote:
At 6/25/2011 1:34:34 AM, darkkermit wrote:
I really don't see the problem.

Some people are either bad debaters or don't want to put in too much effort. What difference does it make?

I didn't even notice or care about these debates until now. As long as there is no overtly offensive material, who care?

http://i52.tinypic.com...
http://i54.tinypic.com...

Again, unimportant. Very few people check out debate.org on the facebook page. I also don't check out the home page for a long time. If there is a debate that seems interesting, I'll read it. If there isn't, I don't.

Overall, It's not really a big deal. People should have the right to debate a topic whether it is interesting or not. It's the troll's loss if he/she continuously loses bad debates.
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baggins
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6/25/2011 2:03:56 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
The seven top debates on the homepage are trolly. I think it matters.

@ Askbob
I don't think you should do anything alone for two reason.
(1) You might make accidentally make mistake and eliminate newbie debaters who just did not make so much effort in the first debate.
(2) You might end up in the line of fire.

Go a bit slow. Discuss a solution. And we can implement it as a group. You can of course lead in the process.

Right now, it will be good to see if we can get someone from Juggle to tell us, what we should do about trolls. If we mass report them, will they commit to go through the profiles / debates and take action?
The Holy Quran 29:19-20

See they not how Allah originates creation, then repeats it: truly that is easy for Allah.

Say: "Travel through the earth and see how Allah did originate creation; so will Allah produce a later creation: for Allah has power over all things.
askbob
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6/25/2011 2:07:30 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/25/2011 1:52:32 AM, darkkermit wrote:
At 6/25/2011 1:38:33 AM, askbob wrote:
At 6/25/2011 1:34:34 AM, darkkermit wrote:
I really don't see the problem.

Some people are either bad debaters or don't want to put in too much effort. What difference does it make?

I didn't even notice or care about these debates until now. As long as there is no overtly offensive material, who care?

http://i52.tinypic.com...
http://i54.tinypic.com...

Again, unimportant. Very few people check out debate.org on the facebook page. I also don't check out the home page for a long time.

It's regarding new members idiot. Anyone who hears from a friend "hey check out debate.org" goes to the site and sees that. That's the first impression. Not the forums or the top debates.
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
darkkermit
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6/25/2011 2:20:48 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/25/2011 2:07:30 AM, askbob wrote:
At 6/25/2011 1:52:32 AM, darkkermit wrote:
At 6/25/2011 1:38:33 AM, askbob wrote:
At 6/25/2011 1:34:34 AM, darkkermit wrote:
I really don't see the problem.

Some people are either bad debaters or don't want to put in too much effort. What difference does it make?

I didn't even notice or care about these debates until now. As long as there is no overtly offensive material, who care?

http://i52.tinypic.com...
http://i54.tinypic.com...

Again, unimportant. Very few people check out debate.org on the facebook page. I also don't check out the home page for a long time.

It's regarding new members idiot. Anyone who hears from a friend "hey check out debate.org" goes to the site and sees that. That's the first impression. Not the forums or the top debates.

Again, unimportant. Your telling me that a new member won't be able to find a decent debate within 3 minutes of joining the site? Debate.org has an algorithm designed so that the top debates are here:
http://www.debate.org...

However, by saying that new members can't have lighthearted debates, you create a precedent that decreases membership.
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askbob
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6/25/2011 2:28:59 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Lol those debates are little lighter than "light-hearted"
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
darkkermit
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6/25/2011 2:35:19 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/25/2011 2:28:59 AM, askbob wrote:
Lol those debates are little lighter than "light-hearted"

Some people just don't know how to debate well.
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6/25/2011 2:36:44 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/25/2011 2:35:19 AM, darkkermit wrote:
At 6/25/2011 2:28:59 AM, askbob wrote:
Lol those debates are little lighter than "light-hearted"

Some people just don't know how to debate well.

That or they all forfeited in the first round or had one sentence arguments. How about you actually look at the ones I'm proposing are deleted instead of making idiotic assumptions.
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
darkkermit
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6/25/2011 2:41:39 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/25/2011 2:36:44 AM, askbob wrote:
At 6/25/2011 2:35:19 AM, darkkermit wrote:
At 6/25/2011 2:28:59 AM, askbob wrote:
Lol those debates are little lighter than "light-hearted"

Some people just don't know how to debate well.

That or they all forfeited in the first round or had one sentence arguments. How about you actually look at the ones I'm proposing are deleted instead of making idiotic assumptions.

I did. Here's one:

http://www.debate.org...

Koopin's a competent debater and PRO likely forfeited sine he could not come up with a good rebuttal or just didn't have time. Forfeits are just a part of DDO. I've forfeited. My opponents have forfeited.

Even you've forfeited before:

http://www.debate.org...

Should we ban you for this?
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6/25/2011 12:03:01 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/25/2011 2:41:39 AM, darkkermit wrote:
At 6/25/2011 2:36:44 AM, askbob wrote:
At 6/25/2011 2:35:19 AM, darkkermit wrote:
At 6/25/2011 2:28:59 AM, askbob wrote:
Lol those debates are little lighter than "light-hearted"

Some people just don't know how to debate well.

That or they all forfeited in the first round or had one sentence arguments. How about you actually look at the ones I'm proposing are deleted instead of making idiotic assumptions.

I did. Here's one:

http://www.debate.org...

Koopin's a competent debater and PRO likely forfeited sine he could not come up with a good rebuttal or just didn't have time. Forfeits are just a part of DDO. I've forfeited. My opponents have forfeited.

Even you've forfeited before:

http://www.debate.org...

Should we ban you for this?

no you should give me a loss, not give the other person a win and remove the debate for viewing.
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
askbob
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6/25/2011 12:05:31 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
you've created at least 10 debates consisting of you just lost the game or yo mama jokes.
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
Brainmaster
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6/25/2011 12:05:58 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/25/2011 2:07:30 AM, askbob wrote:
At 6/25/2011 1:52:32 AM, darkkermit wrote:
At 6/25/2011 1:38:33 AM, askbob wrote:
At 6/25/2011 1:34:34 AM, darkkermit wrote:
I really don't see the problem.

Some people are either bad debaters or don't want to put in too much effort. What difference does it make?

I didn't even notice or care about these debates until now. As long as there is no overtly offensive material, who care?

http://i52.tinypic.com...
http://i54.tinypic.com...

Again, unimportant. Very few people check out debate.org on the facebook page. I also don't check out the home page for a long time.

It's regarding new members idiot. Anyone who hears from a friend "hey check out debate.org" goes to the site and sees that. That's the first impression. Not the forums or the top debates.

Suggestion: Debates with the most like for the week appear at frontpage
Kfc.
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6/25/2011 12:07:14 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/25/2011 12:05:58 PM, Brainmaster wrote:
At 6/25/2011 2:07:30 AM, askbob wrote:
At 6/25/2011 1:52:32 AM, darkkermit wrote:
At 6/25/2011 1:38:33 AM, askbob wrote:
At 6/25/2011 1:34:34 AM, darkkermit wrote:
I really don't see the problem.

Some people are either bad debaters or don't want to put in too much effort. What difference does it make?

I didn't even notice or care about these debates until now. As long as there is no overtly offensive material, who care?

http://i52.tinypic.com...
http://i54.tinypic.com...

Again, unimportant. Very few people check out debate.org on the facebook page. I also don't check out the home page for a long time.

It's regarding new members idiot. Anyone who hears from a friend "hey check out debate.org" goes to the site and sees that. That's the first impression. Not the forums or the top debates.

Suggestion: Debates with the most like for the week appear at frontpage

agreed on this one
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
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6/25/2011 12:08:57 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/25/2011 12:07:14 PM, askbob wrote:
At 6/25/2011 12:05:58 PM, Brainmaster wrote:
At 6/25/2011 2:07:30 AM, askbob wrote:
At 6/25/2011 1:52:32 AM, darkkermit wrote:
At 6/25/2011 1:38:33 AM, askbob wrote:
At 6/25/2011 1:34:34 AM, darkkermit wrote:
I really don't see the problem.

Some people are either bad debaters or don't want to put in too much effort. What difference does it make?

I didn't even notice or care about these debates until now. As long as there is no overtly offensive material, who care?

http://i52.tinypic.com...
http://i54.tinypic.com...

Again, unimportant. Very few people check out debate.org on the facebook page. I also don't check out the home page for a long time.

It's regarding new members idiot. Anyone who hears from a friend "hey check out debate.org" goes to the site and sees that. That's the first impression. Not the forums or the top debates.

Suggestion: Debates with the most like for the week appear at frontpage

agreed on this one

It would pretty much allow us to do joke debates without making a bad impression on serious debaters who think about joining. Better yet make categories like "Joke debate of the week," "Religious debate of the week," or whatever.
Kfc.
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6/25/2011 12:11:48 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/25/2011 12:08:57 PM, Brainmaster wrote:
It would pretty much allow us to do joke debates without making a bad impression on serious debaters who think about joining. Better yet make categories like "Joke debate of the week," "Religious debate of the week," or whatever.

I also propose there be a second category for joke debates (different debate count, doesn't affect your percentile, and a seperate win/loss count)

I also believe forfeits should be counted separately than losses which would allow debaters to see who forfeits the most and stay away from those debaters.
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
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6/25/2011 12:14:40 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/25/2011 12:11:48 PM, askbob wrote:
At 6/25/2011 12:08:57 PM, Brainmaster wrote:
It would pretty much allow us to do joke debates without making a bad impression on serious debaters who think about joining. Better yet make categories like "Joke debate of the week," "Religious debate of the week," or whatever.

I also propose there be a second category for joke debates (different debate count, doesn't affect your percentile, and a seperate win/loss count)

I also believe forfeits should be counted separately than losses which would allow debaters to see who forfeits the most and stay away from those debaters.

Forfeits should result in automatic losses as far as I'm concerned. Yes I'm a chronic forfeiter and that statement is a hyprocritical, but still.

I'm not sure about a full time mod. Much of the community takes place in the forums and the only people that appear to be half serious about this site rarely visit the forums, or at least only the serious sections. Also Juggle might get too complacent and the mod would be free to abuse his powers.
Kfc.
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6/25/2011 12:16:40 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/25/2011 12:14:40 PM, Brainmaster wrote:
At 6/25/2011 12:11:48 PM, askbob wrote:
At 6/25/2011 12:08:57 PM, Brainmaster wrote:
It would pretty much allow us to do joke debates without making a bad impression on serious debaters who think about joining. Better yet make categories like "Joke debate of the week," "Religious debate of the week," or whatever.

I also propose there be a second category for joke debates (different debate count, doesn't affect your percentile, and a seperate win/loss count)

I also believe forfeits should be counted separately than losses which would allow debaters to see who forfeits the most and stay away from those debaters.

Forfeits should result in automatic losses as far as I'm concerned. Yes I'm a chronic forfeiter and that statement is a hyprocritical, but still.



I'm not sure about a full time mod. Much of the community takes place in the forums and the only people that appear to be half serious about this site rarely visit the forums, or at least only the serious sections. Also Juggle might get too complacent and the mod would be free to abuse his powers.

i believe forfeits should negative affect yoru win/loss ratio as well as your percentile. I just think a counter should be added so people can see how many forfeits a debater has.
Me -Phil left the site in my charge. I have a recorded phone conversation to prove it.
kohai -If you're the owner, then do something useful like ip block him and get us away from juggle and on a dofferent host!
Me -haha you apparently don't know my history
Kohai - Maybe not, but that doesn't matter! You shoukd still listen to your community and quit being a tyrrant!
Me - i was being completely sarcastic
Kohai - then u misrepresented yourself by impersonating the owner—a violation of the tos
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6/25/2011 12:21:12 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/25/2011 12:16:40 PM, askbob wrote:
At 6/25/2011 12:14:40 PM, Brainmaster wrote:
At 6/25/2011 12:11:48 PM, askbob wrote:
At 6/25/2011 12:08:57 PM, Brainmaster wrote:
It would pretty much allow us to do joke debates without making a bad impression on serious debaters who think about joining. Better yet make categories like "Joke debate of the week," "Religious debate of the week," or whatever.

I also propose there be a second category for joke debates (different debate count, doesn't affect your percentile, and a seperate win/loss count)

I also believe forfeits should be counted separately than losses which would allow debaters to see who forfeits the most and stay away from those debaters.

Forfeits should result in automatic losses as far as I'm concerned. Yes I'm a chronic forfeiter and that statement is a hyprocritical, but still.



I'm not sure about a full time mod. Much of the community takes place in the forums and the only people that appear to be half serious about this site rarely visit the forums, or at least only the serious sections. Also Juggle might get too complacent and the mod would be free to abuse his powers.

i believe forfeits should negative affect yoru win/loss ratio as well as your percentile. I just think a counter should be added so people can see how many forfeits a debater has.

Agreed.
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6/25/2011 12:23:00 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Also, debates that stay under a certain amount of likes for a time should be auto deleted (or at least suspended until a mod can look over it.) I would propose under -5 likes for a day.
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6/25/2011 12:26:49 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I don't see why people think The Game debates are spam, people seem to find them funny. I just don't think they should appear on the main page to drive away serious debaters.
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6/25/2011 12:28:37 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 6/25/2011 12:52:21 AM, askbob wrote:
I'm giving my first warning to the moderators. You don't want vigilante action on my part yet you refuse to remove many debates that I have reported. It's seriously hurting the quality of this site appearing on the front page. If you're seriously paying a third party moderation system (which I seriously doubt) then you need to pick a new company this is pathetic with most debates taking at least 3 - 4 weeks to be removed. Also I'd like to thank the user relations committee for helping to report, and vote down popularity wise these debates. I can't imagine what the response would have been like if it was just me doing it. If you are interested in getting these spam debates on a regular basis to report/vote down just let me know and I'll add you to the pm.

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Maybe they just don't think it should be removed?
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6/25/2011 12:31:24 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Yeah, we should so set up a DDO dictator to decide which debates are spam, and which ones are worthy of the front page.
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