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GMDebater
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7/1/2011 10:50:18 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I want to improve my ability to debate. What suggestions do you have?
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7/1/2011 10:52:57 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/1/2011 10:50:18 PM, GMDebater wrote:
I want to improve my ability to debate. What suggestions do you have?

Do you want to be a more skilled debater or just win more debates, cause there are two different strategies involved.
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7/1/2011 10:53:52 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/1/2011 10:52:57 PM, Tim_Spin wrote:
At 7/1/2011 10:50:18 PM, GMDebater wrote:
I want to improve my ability to debate. What suggestions do you have?

Do you want to be a more skilled debater or just win more debates, cause there are two different strategies involved.

More skilled
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7/1/2011 10:57:16 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/1/2011 10:54:19 PM, Cliff.Stamp wrote:
Debate and then determine why you lost and why you won. Read the debates by the top debaters and do the same.

Thanks. Perhaps do research on the topic before submiting challenge?
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7/1/2011 10:57:21 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Research, research, research. Know your material and make sure you can explain it in laymen's terms. Also make sure your debate is well organized and easy to read. It always pisses me off when I have to squint or brace myself whenever I read a debate because the text is either too small or too bold.
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7/1/2011 10:57:55 PM
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debate christian things from the christian side of things sheep will vote. It takes a good part of their iq to figure out how to vote but they do it.
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7/1/2011 10:59:17 PM
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At 7/1/2011 10:57:55 PM, izbo10 wrote:
debate christian things from the christian side of things sheep will vote. It takes a good part of their iq to figure out how to vote but they do it.

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7/1/2011 10:59:31 PM
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At 7/1/2011 10:57:55 PM, izbo10 wrote:
debate christian things from the christian side of things sheep will vote. It takes a good part of their iq to figure out how to vote but they do it.

haha! devil's advocate, eh? I've been known to do that quite sucessfuly.
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7/1/2011 11:01:04 PM
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At 7/1/2011 10:59:17 PM, Minuteman wrote:
At 7/1/2011 10:57:55 PM, izbo10 wrote:
debate christian things from the christian side of things sheep will vote. It takes a good part of their iq to figure out how to vote but they do it.

trollface.jpg

lol. AMEN
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7/1/2011 11:01:28 PM
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Having a strong opening post is fairly critical yes, however you will learn a bajillion times faster by doing and looking at the results than trying to figure out the optimal way to get results. The only reason you do the latter is when it costs tons of money to experiment or you are pressed for time or you can't risk failure. In this case none of these are true so start throwing out challenges. Yes your win ratio may take a pounding but your actually skill will skyrocket through the experience but only if you look at the results with a very critical eye. If you want me to expand on any RFD in detail then just let me know.
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7/1/2011 11:05:09 PM
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At 7/1/2011 11:01:28 PM, Cliff.Stamp wrote:
Having a strong opening post is fairly critical yes, however you will learn a bajillion times faster by doing and looking at the results than trying to figure out the optimal way to get results. The only reason you do the latter is when it costs tons of money to experiment or you are pressed for time or you can't risk failure. In this case none of these are true so start throwing out challenges. Yes your win ratio may take a pounding but your actually skill will skyrocket through the experience but only if you look at the results with a very critical eye. If you want me to expand on any RFD in detail then just let me know.

thanks. I want to know how I could have won the debate.
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7/1/2011 11:05:15 PM
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At 7/1/2011 11:01:28 PM, Cliff.Stamp wrote:
Having a strong opening post is fairly critical yes, however you will learn a bajillion times faster by doing and looking at the results than trying to figure out the optimal way to get results. The only reason you do the latter is when it costs tons of money to experiment or you are pressed for time or you can't risk failure. In this case none of these are true so start throwing out challenges. Yes your win ratio may take a pounding but your actually skill will skyrocket through the experience but only if you look at the results with a very critical eye. If you want me to expand on any RFD in detail then just let me know.

That's what happened with my first account. I lost like my first twenty debates but I'd like to think I learned from them.
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7/1/2011 11:07:42 PM
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At 7/1/2011 10:57:55 PM, izbo10 wrote:
debate christian things from the christian side of things sheep will vote. It takes a good part of their iq to figure out how to vote but they do it.

He could just debate you to improve his win ratio.
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7/1/2011 11:09:17 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/1/2011 11:07:42 PM, Cliff.Stamp wrote:
At 7/1/2011 10:57:55 PM, izbo10 wrote:
debate christian things from the christian side of things sheep will vote. It takes a good part of their iq to figure out how to vote but they do it.

He could just debate you to improve his win ratio.

haha! I think that is what I'm gonna do...rofl! good idea, cliff!
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7/1/2011 11:11:14 PM
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At 7/1/2011 11:05:15 PM, Tim_Spin wrote:

That's what happened with my first account. I lost like my first twenty debates but I'd like to think I learned from them.

Indeed, that's why Edison learned 1000 ways not to build a lightbulb.
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7/1/2011 11:12:46 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/1/2011 11:11:14 PM, Cliff.Stamp wrote:
At 7/1/2011 11:05:15 PM, Tim_Spin wrote:

That's what happened with my first account. I lost like my first twenty debates but I'd like to think I learned from them.

Indeed, that's why Edison learned 1000 ways not to build a lightbulb.

and 1 way to build a lightbulb
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7/1/2011 11:13:44 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/1/2011 11:05:15 PM, Tim_Spin wrote:
At 7/1/2011 11:01:28 PM, Cliff.Stamp wrote:
Having a strong opening post is fairly critical yes, however you will learn a bajillion times faster by doing and looking at the results than trying to figure out the optimal way to get results. The only reason you do the latter is when it costs tons of money to experiment or you are pressed for time or you can't risk failure. In this case none of these are true so start throwing out challenges. Yes your win ratio may take a pounding but your actually skill will skyrocket through the experience but only if you look at the results with a very critical eye. If you want me to expand on any RFD in detail then just let me know.

That's what happened with my first account. I lost like my first twenty debates but I'd like to think I learned from them.

Yea you used to do like 20 debates a day, with you new account you have been active for 4 days and only have 3 debates.
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7/1/2011 11:16:10 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/1/2011 11:13:44 PM, BennyW wrote:
At 7/1/2011 11:05:15 PM, Tim_Spin wrote:
At 7/1/2011 11:01:28 PM, Cliff.Stamp wrote:
Having a strong opening post is fairly critical yes, however you will learn a bajillion times faster by doing and looking at the results than trying to figure out the optimal way to get results. The only reason you do the latter is when it costs tons of money to experiment or you are pressed for time or you can't risk failure. In this case none of these are true so start throwing out challenges. Yes your win ratio may take a pounding but your actually skill will skyrocket through the experience but only if you look at the results with a very critical eye. If you want me to expand on any RFD in detail then just let me know.

That's what happened with my first account. I lost like my first twenty debates but I'd like to think I learned from them.

Yea you used to do like 20 debates a day, with you new account you have been active for 4 days and only have 3 debates.

I'm trying to focus more on quality with this one. Plus I'm researching a lot more before I begin debates so it takes a little longer to start them.
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7/1/2011 11:25:08 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/1/2011 11:12:46 PM, GMDebater wrote:

and 1 way to build a lightbulb

Yes, and its luck and a little skill to get the ratio down, but in the end the ratio doesn't matter but the end results.

Just consider this, would you rather have :

-three months of debates, a perfect 10-0 record but no wins in the 95% percentile

-three months of debates, a 5-45 ratio, however those last wins were against Tim, Freeman, Reformed, Grape and Cody.
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7/1/2011 11:32:07 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/1/2011 11:25:08 PM, Cliff.Stamp wrote:
At 7/1/2011 11:12:46 PM, GMDebater wrote:

and 1 way to build a lightbulb

Yes, and its luck and a little skill to get the ratio down, but in the end the ratio doesn't matter but the end results.

Just consider this, would you rather have :

-three months of debates, a perfect 10-0 record but no wins in the 95% percentile

-three months of debates, a 5-45 ratio, however those last wins were against Tim, Freeman, Reformed, Grape and Cody.

the latter...and possibly contradiction. My life goal is to defeat contradiction in a debate with no bombs.
We're both atheists. I just believe in one less god than you.
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7/1/2011 11:32:56 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/1/2011 11:32:07 PM, GMDebater wrote:
At 7/1/2011 11:25:08 PM, Cliff.Stamp wrote:
At 7/1/2011 11:12:46 PM, GMDebater wrote:

and 1 way to build a lightbulb

Yes, and its luck and a little skill to get the ratio down, but in the end the ratio doesn't matter but the end results.

Just consider this, would you rather have :

-three months of debates, a perfect 10-0 record but no wins in the 95% percentile

-three months of debates, a 5-45 ratio, however those last wins were against Tim, Freeman, Reformed, Grape and Cody.

the latter...and possibly contradiction. My life goal is to defeat contradiction in a debate with no bombs.

also kenyon and maybe blue
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7/1/2011 11:36:58 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/1/2011 11:32:56 PM, Minuteman wrote:
At 7/1/2011 11:32:07 PM, GMDebater wrote:
At 7/1/2011 11:25:08 PM, Cliff.Stamp wrote:
At 7/1/2011 11:12:46 PM, GMDebater wrote:

and 1 way to build a lightbulb

Yes, and its luck and a little skill to get the ratio down, but in the end the ratio doesn't matter but the end results.

Just consider this, would you rather have :

-three months of debates, a perfect 10-0 record but no wins in the 95% percentile

-three months of debates, a 5-45 ratio, however those last wins were against Tim, Freeman, Reformed, Grape and Cody.

the latter...and possibly contradiction. My life goal is to defeat contradiction in a debate with no bombs.

also kenyon and maybe blue
and keytarhero!
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7/1/2011 11:46:20 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/1/2011 11:32:07 PM, GMDebater wrote:
At 7/1/2011 11:25:08 PM, Cliff.Stamp wrote:
At 7/1/2011 11:12:46 PM, GMDebater wrote:

and 1 way to build a lightbulb

Yes, and its luck and a little skill to get the ratio down, but in the end the ratio doesn't matter but the end results.

Just consider this, would you rather have :

-three months of debates, a perfect 10-0 record but no wins in the 95% percentile

-three months of debates, a 5-45 ratio, however those last wins were against Tim, Freeman, Reformed, Grape and Cody.

the latter...and possibly contradiction. My life goal is to defeat contradiction in a debate with no bombs.

Challenge accepted.
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7/1/2011 11:47:41 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/1/2011 10:57:55 PM, izbo10 wrote:
debate christian things from the christian side of things sheep will vote. It takes a good part of their iq to figure out how to vote but they do it.

lololololol

Voter bias overwhelmingly favors atheists on this site relative to anywhere else.
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7/1/2011 11:49:29 PM
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At 7/1/2011 11:46:20 PM, Contradiction wrote:
At 7/1/2011 11:32:07 PM, GMDebater wrote:
At 7/1/2011 11:25:08 PM, Cliff.Stamp wrote:
At 7/1/2011 11:12:46 PM, GMDebater wrote:

and 1 way to build a lightbulb

Yes, and its luck and a little skill to get the ratio down, but in the end the ratio doesn't matter but the end results.

Just consider this, would you rather have :

-three months of debates, a perfect 10-0 record but no wins in the 95% percentile

-three months of debates, a 5-45 ratio, however those last wins were against Tim, Freeman, Reformed, Grape and Cody.

the latter...and possibly contradiction. My life goal is to defeat contradiction in a debate with no bombs.

Challenge accepted.

I want to debate if the bible is the word of god
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7/2/2011 12:15:16 AM
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At 7/1/2011 11:32:07 PM, GMDebater wrote:

My life goal is to defeat contradiction in a debate with no bombs.

Assuming this is the SSM, run the argument that you can not justify how things ought to be based on how they were (the success of a past is does not in and of itself inherently justify a future ought [there are a host of assumptions that have to hold for that to always be true]). Then argue for a definition of marriage which includes SS couples based on normative basis of freedom unless harm. This will force Contradiction to both justify his definition as-present, and further either attack liberty as a normative basis or provide warrant for harm for SS marriage definitions.
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7/2/2011 12:33:23 AM
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At 7/2/2011 12:20:32 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
I'll try to read some of your debates and try to explain what you could have done to win.

thanks
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7/2/2011 12:47:40 AM
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At 7/1/2011 11:47:41 PM, Grape wrote:
At 7/1/2011 10:57:55 PM, izbo10 wrote:
debate christian things from the christian side of things sheep will vote. It takes a good part of their iq to figure out how to vote but they do it.

lololololol

Voter bias overwhelmingly favors atheists on this site relative to anywhere else.

Lol, yeah....
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