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Rob1_Billion
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7/7/2011 2:13:14 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Answer these questions succinctly, if you please:

1) Do you think DDO has serious issues right now? If "yes," then what is the biggest problem(s)?

2) Is the remedy for this problem simple? Does it require the attention of the mods, core users, or everybody? How do you personally fit into the solution? Do you feel that you have contributed to the problem?

3) Is there reason to be optimistic about the future of this site? Do you plan on being part of the future of DDO?

4) Is there a viable alternative to DDO that offers a better product?
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7/7/2011 2:19:13 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/7/2011 2:13:14 AM, Rob1_Billion wrote:
Answer these questions succinctly, if you please:

1) Do you think DDO has serious issues right now? If "yes," then what is the biggest problem(s)?


No

2) Is the remedy for this problem simple? Does it require the attention of the mods, core users, or everybody? How do you personally fit into the solution? Do you feel that you have contributed to the problem?


N/A

3) Is there reason to be optimistic about the future of this site? Do you plan on being part of the future of DDO?


Optimistic? Nah, but I'm not pessimistic. I plan to stick around.

4) Is there a viable alternative to DDO that offers a better product?

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7/7/2011 2:20:41 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/7/2011 2:13:14 AM, Rob1_Billion wrote:
Answer these questions succinctly, if you please:

1) Do you think DDO has serious issues right now? If "yes," then what is the biggest problem(s)?

Yes. Lack of help for new members, lack of voting, and members leaving.

2) Is the remedy for this problem simple? Does it require the attention of the mods, core users, or everybody? How do you personally fit into the solution? Do you feel that you have contributed to the problem?

Blood, Sweat, Tears, and guts

3) Is there reason to be optimistic about the future of this site? Do you plan on being part of the future of DDO?

Yes, and Yes

4) Is there a viable alternative to DDO that offers a better product?

Unless I make a site, no.
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7/7/2011 2:24:57 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/7/2011 2:13:14 AM, Rob1_Billion wrote:


1) Do you think DDO has serious issues right now? If "yes," then what is the biggest problem(s)?

It has issues. Not any serious ones though.

2) Is the remedy for this problem simple? Does it require the attention of the mods, core users, or everybody? How do you personally fit into the solution? Do you feel that you have contributed to the problem?

Time is the best remedy.

3) Is there reason to be optimistic about the future of this site? Do you plan on being part of the future of DDO?

Yes, I plan on being part of the future. There's reason to be optimistic since there will likely be new members on DDO.

4) Is there a viable alternative to DDO that offers a better product?

Better is subjective.
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7/7/2011 2:24:58 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/7/2011 2:13:14 AM, Rob1_Billion wrote:
Answer these questions succinctly, if you please:

1) Do you think DDO has serious issues right now? If "yes," then what is the biggest problem(s)?


Yes. The biggest problem is the simultaneous influx of members creating negative or useless content and the dissatisfaction and subsequent inactivity of members who create useful content.

2) Is the remedy for this problem simple? Does it require the attention of the mods, core users, or everybody? How do you personally fit into the solution? Do you feel that you have contributed to the problem?


Yes, the remedy is simply. Increase moderation, strictness, and overall standards and requirements. Excepting a few lapses in judgement, I consider my conduct acceptable and my contributions valuable (though there's some bias involved there :P), so I do not think I am part of the problem. The solution would generally involve the mods and to a lesser extent the core users (who would have to set a standard). Asking the general populace to change their behavior is a naive strategy.

3) Is there reason to be optimistic about the future of this site? Do you plan on being part of the future of DDO?


No, because the owner's goals do not seem to coincide with the solution. I will remain at DDO but I do not plan to be terribly active compared to before. The benefits to me seem to be evaporating and the frustrations increasing.

4) Is there a viable alternative to DDO that offers a better product?

Not in the general sense of what DDO is. Social networking sites in general are sufficient for me to get what I want (discussion with people on difficult or obscure topics of mutual interest).

Here's hoping that something good comes out of this thread, though my optimism is measured.
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7/7/2011 2:27:07 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/7/2011 2:13:14 AM, Rob1_Billion wrote:
Answer these questions succinctly, if you please:

1) Do you think DDO has serious issues right now? If "yes," then what is the biggest problem(s)?

Yes, it is an imbalance of productive and unproductive members.

2) Is the remedy for this problem simple? Does it require the attention of the mods, core users, or everybody? How do you personally fit into the solution? Do you feel that you have contributed to the problem?

No remedy is simple. It requires everyone to do something. I am not quite sure where I fit in atm. I have contributed to the problem, because so far I have only halfheartedly tried to be part of the solution.

3) Is there reason to be optimistic about the future of this site? Do you plan on being part of the future of DDO?

Maybe, and right now I can't say for certain that I will be.

4) Is there a viable alternative to DDO that offers a better product?

I don't know.
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7/7/2011 2:27:16 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/7/2011 2:13:14 AM, Rob1_Billion wrote:
Answer these questions succinctly, if you please:

1) Do you think DDO has serious issues right now? If "yes," then what is the biggest problem(s)?

Yes. Hysteria and lack in productive conversations.

2) Is the remedy for this problem simple?

Yes. People need to take a chill-pill and go back to normal discussion.

Does it require the attention of the mods, core users, or everybody?

It's mostly a problem among the forum users. I don't see the mods ever getting far involved.

How do you personally fit into the solution? Do you feel that you have contributed to the problem?

Myself and the Order of Disorder have had absolutely nothing to do with the recent chaotic events.

3) Is there reason to be optimistic about the future of this site?

I've never seen a pessimist make things better.

Do you plan on being part of the future of DDO?

Absolutely. I love everyone here too much to leave.

4) Is there a viable alternative to DDO that offers a better product?

Maybe. I don't really care. This is the place I have come to know.
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7/7/2011 2:32:06 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/7/2011 2:13:14 AM, Rob1_Billion wrote:
Answer these questions succinctly, if you please:

1) Do you think DDO has serious issues right now? If "yes," then what is the biggest problem(s)?

Yes, drama because people are too sensitive and drag their problems onto everyone else. We did have a troll problem but for the moment it has been taken care of however, any site will have its share of trolls.
2) Is the remedy for this problem simple? Does it require the attention of the mods, core users, or everybody? How do you personally fit into the solution? Do you feel that you have contributed to the problem?

There is a remedy. Time for one. People might need to take a break but not necessarily leave for good. Mods and users should work together. If there are members who are acting like trolls the best way to deal with them is to ignore them. More involvement of the mods would be nice but not as a strong arm but more as guardians.
3) Is there reason to be optimistic about the future of this site? Do you plan on being part of the future of DDO?

Yes and yes, plenty of sites and organizations have been through rough patches but they can get better with time.
4) Is there a viable alternative to DDO that offers a better product?
No, not like this.
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7/7/2011 4:32:36 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/7/2011 2:13:14 AM, Rob1_Billion wrote:
Answer these questions succinctly, if you please:

1) Do you think DDO has serious issues right now? If "yes," then what is the biggest problem(s)?

Yes, lack of moderation.

2) Is the remedy for this problem simple? Does it require the attention of the mods, core users, or everybody? How do you personally fit into the solution? Do you feel that you have contributed to the problem?
The solving is simple: let us self moderate and ignore the trolls!

3) Is there reason to be optimistic about the future of this site? Do you plan on being part of the future of DDO?

Not with juggle's policy.

4) Is there a viable alternative to DDO that offers a better product?

I'm not sure.
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7/7/2011 5:50:47 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/7/2011 2:13:14 AM, Rob1_Billion wrote:
Answer these questions succinctly, if you please:

1) Do you think DDO has serious issues right now? If "yes," then what is the biggest problem(s)?

Yes.
i. Banning of Askbob
ii. People leaving
iii. Lack of response or concern from Juggle
iv. Spam - though that is not a long term concern.

2) Is the remedy for this problem simple? Does it require the attention of the mods, core users, or everybody? How do you personally fit into the solution? Do you feel that you have contributed to the problem?

Yes. Just a response from Juggle confirming:
1. They are serious about quality of this site.
2. A confirmation that they will dedicating X resource to the website.
3. If possible - mod power to someone in DDO who can control spam. They will still have the power to overrule the person's decision.

3) Is there reason to be optimistic about the future of this site? Do you plan on being part of the future of DDO?

Most probably I will hang on to see if things improve. Might become less active. (Though that was going to happen anyway in near future due to some personal reasons). On other hand if there is a plan to strike, and I am asked to participate, I will probably go along with that. On other hand, my contribution has been much less than some other people. So maybe it does not matter that much.

4) Is there a viable alternative to DDO that offers a better product?

If you take out the quality of debates - there is nothing special about DDO. Working part-time, I can create a basic website (with debates and forums - all features may not be there) in a month. Others will be able to do it faster. Only I do not see how I will make money out of it.
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7/7/2011 6:06:57 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/7/2011 2:13:14 AM, Rob1_Billion wrote:
Answer these questions succinctly, if you please:

1) Do you think DDO has serious issues right now? If "yes," then what is the biggest problem(s)?

No.

2) Is the remedy for this problem simple? Does it require the attention of the mods, core users, or everybody? How do you personally fit into the solution? Do you feel that you have contributed to the problem?

N/A

3) Is there reason to be optimistic about the future of this site? Do you plan on being part of the future of DDO?

A few prominent members have left recently but others will come to the fore - I will stay around.

4) Is there a viable alternative to DDO that offers a better product?

No, other sites are too heavilly moderated.
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7/7/2011 7:04:18 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/7/2011 2:13:14 AM, Rob1_Billion wrote:
Answer these questions succinctly, if you please:

1) Do you think DDO has serious issues right now? If "yes," then what is the biggest problem(s)?

No

2) Is the remedy for this problem simple? Does it require the attention of the mods, core users, or everybody? How do you personally fit into the solution? Do you feel that you have contributed to the problem?

--

3) Is there reason to be optimistic about the future of this site? Do you plan on being part of the future of DDO?

Yes

4) Is there a viable alternative to DDO that offers a better product?

Not that I know of. This is the place for now.
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7/7/2011 8:16:46 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/7/2011 2:13:14 AM, Rob1_Billion wrote:
Answer these questions succinctly, if you please:

1) Do you think DDO has serious issues right now? If "yes," then what is the biggest problem(s)?
The issues at hand are serious: other members have been leaving due to problems in the administration and with the problem of trolling (spam debates, advertising, insults to other members). Unfortunately, many of these members were among the giants of this site, so I would expect a decline in quality heretofore.
2) Is the remedy for this problem simple? Does it require the attention of the mods, core users, or everybody? How do you personally fit into the solution? Do you feel that you have contributed to the problem?
The remedy is time...We can either a) expect new members to rise and fill the vacancies left by the mass "exodus" b) expect the moderators to gradually change the site [for the better] or at least have members collectively post their arguments from the forums to the debate and increase productivity...The solution isn't really simple, at least--in my view.

3) Is there reason to be optimistic about the future of this site? Do you plan on being part of the future of DDO?
I plan to continue posting since DDO could have been worse. There might be some change, whether brought about by the moderators or at least by the members of this site.
4) Is there a viable alternative to DDO that offers a better product?
I don't know, so I cannot say for sure that there is some "viable alternative to DDO".
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7/7/2011 11:14:58 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/7/2011 2:13:14 AM, Rob1_Billion wrote:
Answer these questions succinctly, if you please:

1) Do you think DDO has serious issues right now? If "yes," then what is the biggest problem(s)?

Yes, and the problem is the over-reaction to the problem.

2) Is the remedy for this problem simple? Does it require the attention of the mods, core users, or everybody? How do you personally fit into the solution? Do you feel that you have contributed to the problem?

I don't think i have contributed to the problem, and i think that we are just going through a phase of change.
3) Is there reason to be optimistic about the future of this site? Do you plan on being part of the future of DDO?

I am hopeful that the members who remain will help cultivate the new members so that this site will return to it's once status of excellence.

4) Is there a viable alternative to DDO that offers a better product?
No, and i have looked far and wide.
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7/7/2011 11:25:52 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/7/2011 2:13:14 AM, Rob1_Billion wrote:
Answer these questions succinctly, if you please:

1) Do you think DDO has serious issues right now? If "yes," then what is the biggest problem(s)?

Spam debates.

2) Is the remedy for this problem simple? Does it require the attention of the mods, core users, or everybody? How do you personally fit into the solution? Do you feel that you have contributed to the problem?

The only solution is a wider pool of good debaters. Increased regulation won't go far.

3) Is there reason to be optimistic about the future of this site? Do you plan on being part of the future of DDO?

I dunno. It depends how things turn out, I guess.

4) Is there a viable alternative to DDO that offers a better product?

There's nothing that's essentially the same as DDO, but there are plenty of other websites to frequent. The net is vast and infinite.
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11/24/2013 10:15:44 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/7/2011 2:13:14 AM, Rob1_Billion wrote:
Answer these questions succinctly, if you please:

1) Do you think DDO has serious issues right now? If "yes," then what is the biggest problem(s)?

Yes. Juggle's lack of a coherent vision for this site is the biggest problem, and the source from which all others flow out of.

2) Is the remedy for this problem simple? Does it require the attention of the mods, core users, or everybody? How do you personally fit into the solution? Do you feel that you have contributed to the problem?

It's a question of what this site is going to be. The DDO community has one idea. Juggle doesn't like that idea, but they don't have any alternative. They just have gimmicky "innovations" that pursue short term objectives at the expense of long term sustainable growth.

3) Is there reason to be optimistic about the future of this site? Do you plan on being part of the future of DDO?

I'm not optimistic. I think that DDO will be a thing of the past if current trends continue to be trends to the extent that they are. I think that if the way Juggle manages DDO is a reflection of the way that Juggle manages other projects, that Juggle will be bought out within a few years and the current leadership structure replaced. DDO will probably, in that situation, fall by the wayside. But, I don't know if Juggle manages its other projects like it does DDO. I hope not...

4) Is there a viable alternative to DDO that offers a better product?

I sincerely believe that there are ways this could be worked out. I don't want an alternative because I am invested in the friendships I have with people here.
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11/24/2013 10:28:46 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 7/7/2011 2:13:14 AM, Rob1_Billion wrote:
Answer these questions succinctly, if you please:

1) Do you think DDO has serious issues right now? If "yes," then what is the biggest problem(s)?

No. The site gets a lot of traffic and gets updated periodically, with major updates happening once in a while too. The only issues are a lot of cruddy debates being made, a lot of them being forfeited, and decreased voting, but those arent what I would consider 'serious' issues to DDO

2) Is the remedy for this problem simple?

We have the ability to post debates to forums to get votes, and there is talk of updates in the future that could deal with deletion of forfeited debates and other minor issues too

3) Is there reason to be optimistic about the future of this site? Do you plan on being part of the future of DDO?

Team debates is a thing that day by day comes closer to being real, updates to remove full forfeited debates from clogging the voting period among other things is also a potential, the new polls part of the site and new leaderboards are also nice additions to the site..... And im not leaving this place for a LONG time.

4) Is there a viable alternative to DDO that offers a better product?

Not ones that I have explored
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7/8/2015 10:58:47 AM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/7/2011 2:13:14 AM, Rob1_Billion wrote:
Answer these questions succinctly, if you please:

1) Do you think DDO has serious issues right now? If "yes," then what is the biggest problem(s)?

2) Is the remedy for this problem simple? Does it require the attention of the mods, core users, or everybody? How do you personally fit into the solution? Do you feel that you have contributed to the problem?

3) Is there reason to be optimistic about the future of this site? Do you plan on being part of the future of DDO?

4) Is there a viable alternative to DDO that offers a better product?

1) Yes. The mobile version as well as the prepubescent children who do one debate, FF, and then leave the site.
2) I believe it is. Perhaps we could deactivate all members who are inactive after a year. They would have the option to reactivate their accounts later, but so we don't crowd the leaderboard...
3) Yeah I'm hyped about it. DDO has provided a haven for me and many others who can't debate at school for various reasons (my debate program was cancelled). I'm looking forward to being a part of DDO as things are enhanced and the users become more competitive.
4) Nope. All you get past DDO is partisan bullcrap.
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7/8/2015 2:12:38 PM
Posted: 1 year ago
At 7/8/2015 10:58:47 AM, TheOpinionist wrote:
At 7/7/2011 2:13:14 AM, Rob1_Billion wrote:
Answer these questions succinctly, if you please:

1) Do you think DDO has serious issues right now? If "yes," then what is the biggest problem(s)?

2) Is the remedy for this problem simple? Does it require the attention of the mods, core users, or everybody? How do you personally fit into the solution? Do you feel that you have contributed to the problem?

3) Is there reason to be optimistic about the future of this site? Do you plan on being part of the future of DDO?

4) Is there a viable alternative to DDO that offers a better product?

1) Yes. The mobile version as well as the prepubescent children who do one debate, FF, and then leave the site.

The people that do one debate and then leave are generally noon sniped by a better member.

2) I believe it is. Perhaps we could deactivate all members who are inactive after a year. They would have the option to reactivate their accounts later, but so we don't crowd the leaderboard...

A lot of the people on that leader board that haven't been around were the ones that made it possible for this site to be here now. Not really an issue.

3) Yeah I'm hyped about it. DDO has provided a haven for me and many others who can't debate at school for various reasons (my debate program was cancelled). I'm looking forward to being a part of DDO as things are enhanced and the users become more competitive.

There is still a good community here, just gotta ignore all the bs.

4) Nope. All you get past DDO is partisan bullcrap.
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