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medic0506
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7/15/2011 11:33:07 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
In the last few days, we've heard just about every negative thing about DDO, that can be said about a site. I like a good drama once in a while just as much as anyone else, but honestly this is getting kind of old, so I started this thread to list some of the things that I like about DDO.

I like the fact that we can engage in a formal debate, of any length, and on any subject we choose. We can have that debate voted on, and our performance critiqued so that we become better debaters.

If we don't want a formal debate, but want to argue a point, we can go into the forums, join an existing argument, or start a thread and argue with a number of people with differing ideologies.

If we're not in the mood for arguing, we can can go to the games forum and play in a game of mafia, or another type of game when available. By the way, we need some new players so go sign up for the beginner games and try it out.

If we don't feel like doing any of that, we can do nothing but read debates and vote on them, or read forums, and pm with friends.

So basically, DDO is a social site, a place to hold formal debates, a message board, and a games forum, all in one easy-to-use site. I don't think there's anything else out there quite like it.

What say you??
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7/15/2011 11:42:02 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
it's a parade of happy benalities yay.

I like that no matter what there is always going to be people that aren't bummers or downers on this site.

I like that although everyone is so negative and are being trolls they keep coming back because this site is like no other.

I like that I am on this site
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7/15/2011 11:47:15 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
There are still many features that I admire of DDO: there are generally a free range of topics can choose, possibly from the art theory, the (subjective) quality of art and its mediums and agents, science (the theory of evolution, the reliance on radiometric dating), pro and anti-life views, abortion, historical events, semantics (which are valuable part of this site), and so on. With each new debate, one has new facts and doors of knowledge to learn and peruse.

The site itself is impressive. One's profile has many valuable features: the comments page, the list of debates, the time the user was on, personal traits and education, and so on, along with photo albums that sometimes compliment as well.

In addition, DDO allows members from distinct parts of the world, from the precincts of New York to the parlor of Britain, and so on, to congregate and communicate, sharing information, lessons, and views with each other. I, for one, am curious of how DDO is like.

Even with a few members that I disagree with, namely Izbo, there however appears to be some benefit from such interaction with the likes of him: we learn lessons, and the chief lesson is to never to be like him, to attain the qualities of arrogance, pride, and belligerence on a site like this. One learns how to better himself by the mistakes of others.

The forums offer a wide view of subjects: art, history, technology, economics, and even about DDO itself, the most popular category [and, honestly, the home of all the drama]. Posting and engaging in such a good environment is at least a good experience.
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7/15/2011 11:52:59 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/15/2011 11:42:02 PM, headphonegut wrote:
it's a parade of happy benalities yay.

I like that no matter what there is always going to be people that aren't bummers or downers on this site.

I like that although everyone is so negative and are being trolls they keep coming back because this site is like no other.

I like that I am on this site
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7/16/2011 12:02:04 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Most intellectually versatile and stimulating, honest, respectful, and welcoming online community I have ever come across and I'm happy to consider myself a part of it. There's always something to learn for everyone. A wealth of information that I can always count on for anything from helping me with my school essays to developing my personal philosophy. Despite all the negativity that's been coming in as of late, I still maintain that this place is the sh!t.
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7/16/2011 12:31:39 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/16/2011 12:02:04 AM, jat93 wrote:
Most intellectually versatile and stimulating, honest, respectful, and welcoming online community I have ever come across and I'm happy to consider myself a part of it. There's always something to learn for everyone. A wealth of information that I can always count on for anything from helping me with my school essays to developing my personal philosophy. Despite all the negativity that's been coming in as of late, I still maintain that this place is the sh!t.

This
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7/16/2011 12:37:24 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
This site is a community, practically an online home. We occasionally have the family squabbles, but agree or disagree we can still get along and view each other as people.
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7/16/2011 12:47:46 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/16/2011 12:37:24 AM, Ore_Ele wrote:
This site is a community, practically an online home. We occasionally have the family squabbles, but agree or disagree we can still get along and view each other as people.

merry Thistmas.
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7/16/2011 2:22:13 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
I like how much you learn here. I often accept debates I know nothing about just so I'm forced to research it to write a case about it.

You also get to hear the other side of a lot of issues from people who know what they're talking about.

Also learn about just about every possible argument for and against the existence of God.
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7/16/2011 9:24:43 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/16/2011 7:52:53 AM, Sieben wrote:
"Hey can I jerk you off? Will you jerk me off? Oh hey what about this guy okay tell you what you start doing him, I'll do you, and he'll do me... fap fap fap we are such good fap buddies."

I wasn't joking when I said the Sean Hannity forums were a significant intellectual improvement over DDO. They're probably more diverse too because I remember there being a couple of prominent Liberal Democrat members, of which DDO has none.

I thought you were leaving??
medic0506
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7/16/2011 9:47:33 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/16/2011 7:52:53 AM, Sieben wrote:
"Hey can I jerk you off? Will you jerk me off? Oh hey what about this guy okay tell you what you start doing him, I'll do you, and he'll do me... fap fap fap we are such good fap buddies."

You're supposedly 22 years old. You do realize that there are young kids around here, right??

I wasn't joking when I said the Sean Hannity forums were a significant intellectual improvement over DDO. They're probably more diverse too because I remember there being a couple of prominent Liberal Democrat members, of which DDO has none.

I don't necessarily see the lack of liberal dems as a bad thing, unless you're just looking for something to bmc about.
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7/16/2011 10:08:45 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/16/2011 9:47:33 AM, medic0506 wrote:
At 7/16/2011 7:52:53 AM, Sieben wrote:
"Hey can I jerk you off? Will you jerk me off? Oh hey what about this guy okay tell you what you start doing him, I'll do you, and he'll do me... fap fap fap we are such good fap buddies."

You're supposedly 22 years old. You do realize that there are young kids around here, right??

I could really care less.

I don't necessarily see the lack of liberal dems as a bad thing, unless you're just looking for something to bmc about.

Well everyone likes to fap about how diverse DDO is. Its not, unless you count random troll opinions as "diversity". Like I said, the Sean Hannity forums are a more intellectually stimulating and diverse place.
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medic0506
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7/16/2011 11:10:00 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/16/2011 10:08:45 AM, Sieben wrote:
At 7/16/2011 9:47:33 AM, medic0506 wrote:
At 7/16/2011 7:52:53 AM, Sieben wrote:
"Hey can I jerk you off? Will you jerk me off? Oh hey what about this guy okay tell you what you start doing him, I'll do you, and he'll do me... fap fap fap we are such good fap buddies."

You're supposedly 22 years old. You do realize that there are young kids around here, right??

I could really care less.

How very mature of you, I guess that explains your popularity.

I don't necessarily see the lack of liberal dems as a bad thing, unless you're just looking for something to bmc about.

Well everyone likes to fap about how diverse DDO is. Its not, unless you count random troll opinions as "diversity". Like I said, the Sean Hannity forums are a more intellectually stimulating and diverse place.

What should DDO do, not allow more than 1 person of a particular ideology to sign in until every single viewpoint is represented?? How diverse is your site?? And different font sizes used to write penis, during the penis game, doesn't count as diversity.
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7/16/2011 11:31:53 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/16/2011 11:10:00 AM, medic0506 wrote:

How very mature of you, I guess that explains your popularity.

I'm not popular. Oh wait you were being sarcastic. I didn't realize.

Well everyone likes to fap about how diverse DDO is. Its not, unless you count random troll opinions as "diversity". Like I said, the Sean Hannity forums are a more intellectually stimulating and diverse place.

What should DDO do, not allow more than 1 person of a particular ideology to sign in until every single viewpoint is represented??

I don't know or care what DDO should do. I am just saying that DDO has no claim to fame on any of the metrics so often touted.

How diverse is your site?? And different font sizes used to write penis, during the penis game, doesn't count as diversity.

Probably not very diverse. We truly want to recruit lots of people and we don't really care what their affiliation is.

But you'll notice that the majority of threads are of a much higher caliber. Thanks for cherry picking that 1 thread though, which I would argue is more intelligent than the average CharlesB or Tiel post since it contains at least 2 levels of irony.
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medic0506
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7/16/2011 2:28:39 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/16/2011 11:31:53 AM, Sieben wrote:
At 7/16/2011 11:10:00 AM, medic0506 wrote:

How very mature of you, I guess that explains your popularity.

I'm not popular. Oh wait you were being sarcastic. I didn't realize.

Well everyone likes to fap about how diverse DDO is. Its not, unless you count random troll opinions as "diversity". Like I said, the Sean Hannity forums are a more intellectually stimulating and diverse place.

What should DDO do, not allow more than 1 person of a particular ideology to sign in until every single viewpoint is represented??

I don't know or care what DDO should do. I am just saying that DDO has no claim to fame on any of the metrics so often touted.

I would say that among the sites I've been on, the diversity here is much more evident, and I hope that continues.

How diverse is your site?? And different font sizes used to write penis, during the penis game, doesn't count as diversity.

Probably not very diverse. We truly want to recruit lots of people and we don't really care what their affiliation is.

I guess my question is, if it's so bad here, why stay and why not go do your recruiting somewhere else. It seems as if you're doing nothing but wizzing in everyone's cornflakes here. Is that a successful recruiting tactic??

But you'll notice that the majority of threads are of a much higher caliber. Thanks for cherry picking that 1 thread though...

I just found it funny that you guys were playing the penis game, yet you come here and say that we're the ones that are fapping. I wouldn't have mentioned that thread had it not been for that.

which I would argue is more intelligent than the average CharlesB or Tiel post since it contains at least 2 levels of irony.

That's another thing, you say you want diversity yet you pre-ban those opinions and beliefs. I don't know Tiel, and I absolutely disagree with Charles most of the time, but I would never advocate for keeping those opinions off our site. I doubt that many here would.
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7/16/2011 2:34:28 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/16/2011 2:28:39 PM, medic0506 wrote:
At 7/16/2011 11:31:53 AM, Sieben wrote:
At 7/16/2011 11:10:00 AM, medic0506 wrote:

How very mature of you, I guess that explains your popularity.

I'm not popular. Oh wait you were being sarcastic. I didn't realize.

Well everyone likes to fap about how diverse DDO is. Its not, unless you count random troll opinions as "diversity". Like I said, the Sean Hannity forums are a more intellectually stimulating and diverse place.

What should DDO do, not allow more than 1 person of a particular ideology to sign in until every single viewpoint is represented??

I don't know or care what DDO should do. I am just saying that DDO has no claim to fame on any of the metrics so often touted.

The diversity comes from the variety of members, their numerous views and origins. There are different ideologies as well.

I would say that among the sites I've been on, the diversity here is much more evident, and I hope that continues.


But you'll notice that the majority of threads are of a much higher caliber. Thanks for cherry picking that 1 thread though...

Disparaging the members and their forums on this site isn't a "succesfull recruiting tactic", I must say.

I just found it funny that you guys were playing the penis game, yet you come here and say that we're the ones that are fapping. I wouldn't have mentioned that thread had it not been for that.

which I would argue is more intelligent than the average CharlesB or Tiel post since it contains at least 2 levels of irony.

That's another thing, you say you want diversity yet you pre-ban those opinions and beliefs. I don't know Tiel, and I absolutely disagree with Charles most of the time, but I would never advocate for keeping those opinions off our site. I doubt that many here would.

We should judge members on their conduct, not on their ideologies. I know that you oppose Tiel, who has many quaint beliefs in what I frankly call psuedoscience (alchemy, the sixth sense, extaterrestrial life, and so on), but I do not. Notice that members only started petitioning him to ban him when he started his outrageous behavior [that is, to presuppose that he was Justin_Chains] and started quarrelling with Cliff. Stamp and Dark.Kermit. Otherwise, members, including myself, engaged in a relatively friendly and tranquil conversation over the matters...
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7/16/2011 2:40:00 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/16/2011 2:28:39 PM, medic0506 wrote:

I don't know or care what DDO should do. I am just saying that DDO has no claim to fame on any of the metrics so often touted.

I would say that among the sites I've been on, the diversity here is much more evident, and I hope that continues.

Yes. DDO is not the worst website on the internet. But it gets beat by the Sean Hannity forums. It also gets beat by the MTG (magic the gathering) debate subforums. Its not really a special community (read, community. Yes it does have special debate features).

Probably not very diverse. We truly want to recruit lots of people and we don't really care what their affiliation is.

I guess my question is, if it's so bad here, why stay and why not go do your recruiting somewhere else. It seems as if you're doing nothing but wizzing in everyone's cornflakes here. Is that a successful recruiting tactic??

Well I already took a bunch of productive members with me (those who signed the thread). I thought I'd try to take a few more and rub salt in the wound while I'm at it.

Yes it is effective because its polarizing. Some people hate it, and some people identify with me because they're tired of this community's problems.

I just found it funny that you guys were playing the penis game, yet you come here and say that we're the ones that are fapping. I wouldn't have mentioned that thread had it not been for that.

Like I said, the penis game played on our thread has at least 2 levels of irony (3 if you read it), causing it to far exceed the intellectual level of the average DDO post.

But yeah. You just want to cherry pick so we look bad. Nevermind all the other high caliber threads we've started. Who cares? Just as long as you can feel good about DDO.

which I would argue is more intelligent than the average CharlesB or Tiel post since it contains at least 2 levels of irony.

That's another thing, you say you want diversity yet you pre-ban those opinions and beliefs. I don't know Tiel, and I absolutely disagree with Charles most of the time, but I would never advocate for keeping those opinions off our site. I doubt that many here would.

We are okay with communists. We just don't want retarded or troll communists. We are "pre-banning" trolls and morons, even ancap ones.
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7/16/2011 4:02:34 PM
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I like is site because it is my only source for different perspectives. I can't ask wiki a specific question. And it's not dominated by one idealogly any more so I can get honest answers most if the time.
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7/16/2011 7:06:24 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/16/2011 2:40:00 PM, Sieben wrote:
At 7/16/2011 2:28:39 PM, medic0506 wrote:

I don't know or care what DDO should do. I am just saying that DDO has no claim to fame on any of the metrics so often touted.

I would say that among the sites I've been on, the diversity here is much more evident, and I hope that continues.

Yes. DDO is not the worst website on the internet. But it gets beat by the Sean Hannity forums. It also gets beat by the MTG (magic the gathering) debate subforums. Its not really a special community (read, community. Yes it does have special debate features).

I was only speaking for the ones that I've seen, I've been on a few but not alot. I'm sure there are some good ones, but I happen to think this is the best I've seen. I guess whether the site is good, or not, depends on what you want to get out of it. A community is only as good as the people involved, and their contributions to it.

Probably not very diverse. We truly want to recruit lots of people and we don't really care what their affiliation is.

I guess my question is, if it's so bad here, why stay and why not go do your recruiting somewhere else. It seems as if you're doing nothing but wizzing in everyone's cornflakes here. Is that a successful recruiting tactic??

Well I already took a bunch of productive members with me (those who signed the thread). I thought I'd try to take a few more and rub salt in the wound while I'm at it.

Yes it is effective because its polarizing. Some people hate it, and some people identify with me because they're tired of this community's problems.

So you're admitting, to the same people you're trying to recruit, that you're just here to try and cause more trouble so they'll come over to your site. If that's an effective tactic when they know that's what you're doing, are those the kind of people you're looking for, to join such an intellectually superior site?? Seems to me that anyone that falls for that is anything but intellectual.

I just found it funny that you guys were playing the penis game, yet you come here and say that we're the ones that are fapping. I wouldn't have mentioned that thread had it not been for that.

Like I said, the penis game played on our thread has at least 2 levels of irony (3 if you read it), causing it to far exceed the intellectual level of the average DDO post.

I really didn't pay that much attention to it.

But yeah. You just want to cherry pick so we look bad. Nevermind all the other high caliber threads we've started. Who cares? Just as long as you can feel good about DDO.

I have absolutely no interest in making any of those people look bad, not one of them has ever done anything to me, that would provoke that kind of response, including you. If I'm not mistaken this is the first time we've ever talked, so why would I be trying to make you guys look bad?? I only made the comment in response to your comment about us.

which I would argue is more intelligent than the average CharlesB or Tiel post since it contains at least 2 levels of irony.

That's another thing, you say you want diversity yet you pre-ban those opinions and beliefs. I don't know Tiel, and I absolutely disagree with Charles most of the time, but I would never advocate for keeping those opinions off our site. I doubt that many here would.

We are okay with communists. We just don't want retarded or troll communists. We are "pre-banning" trolls and morons, even ancap ones.

Okay, that's your prerogative.
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7/16/2011 7:10:46 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/16/2011 3:42:27 PM, Rockylightning wrote:
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If you hate it so much here, why are you still here?
Because you're a troll.

Amen to that.
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7/18/2011 12:54:29 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 7/18/2011 12:45:37 PM, Double_R wrote:
You know this was a nice post, once upon a time...

Until Sieben came along...
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7/18/2011 1:00:52 PM
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At 7/16/2011 12:02:04 AM, jat93 wrote:
Most intellectually versatile and stimulating, honest, respectful, and welcoming online community I have ever come across and I'm happy to consider myself a part of it. There's always something to learn for everyone. A wealth of information that I can always count on for anything from helping me with my school essays to developing my personal philosophy. Despite all the negativity that's been coming in as of late, I still maintain that this place is the sh!t.

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7/18/2011 1:10:00 PM
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At 7/16/2011 12:02:04 AM, jat93 wrote:
Most intellectually versatile and stimulating, honest, respectful, and welcoming online community I have ever come across and I'm happy to consider myself a part of it. There's always something to learn for everyone. A wealth of information that I can always count on for anything from helping me with my school essays to developing my personal philosophy. Despite all the negativity that's been coming in as of late, I still maintain that this place is the sh!t.

Agree mostly, except for bolded parts
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7/18/2011 1:17:20 PM
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At 7/18/2011 1:10:00 PM, phantom wrote:
At 7/16/2011 12:02:04 AM, jat93 wrote:
Most intellectually versatile and stimulating, honest, respectful, and welcoming online community I have ever come across and I'm happy to consider myself a part of it. There's always something to learn for everyone. A wealth of information that I can always count on for anything from helping me with my school essays to developing my personal philosophy. Despite all the negativity that's been coming in as of late, I still maintain that this place is the sh!t.

Agree mostly, except for bolded parts

I think those days are mostly gone now. Got rid of the trash. ;)
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