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wierdman
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8/15/2011 12:33:56 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
In your opinion, who do you think are the top ten debaters (not based on the leader board). based on arguments and activity.
000ike
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8/15/2011 12:36:11 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
actually, I kinda agree with the leaderboard.

1.Danielle...she's the only extremely good debater I've seen.

2. Freedo

3. Ore_Ele

I can't think of any more
"A stupid despot may constrain his slaves with iron chains; but a true politician binds them even more strongly with the chain of their own ideas" - Michel Foucault
Man-is-good
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8/15/2011 12:39:22 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
There are three debaters that I have seen that absolutely impress me. I'll give a list of them in no particular order: Danielle (whose extensive knowledge, and style of debating is impressive), RoyLatham, and J.Kenyon. There are others, who are more confined to specific topics, such as Contradiction (especially on the topic of homosexuality and same sex marriage), Reformed Arsenal (theology), Cliff.Stamp (who, while pale compared to the three I have enumerated, was nevertheless a favorite of mine, before he deactivated his account), and so on. I cannot judge who is the best because the criteria for 'the best' appears to be wholly subjective...
"Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto." --Terence

"I believe that the mind can be permanently profaned by the habit of attending to trivial things, so that all our thoughts shall be tinged with triviality."--Thoreau
000ike
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8/15/2011 12:41:10 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/15/2011 12:39:22 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
I cannot judge who is the best because the criteria for 'the best' appears to be wholly subjective...

Thats the point. He begins the post with, "in your opinion".
"A stupid despot may constrain his slaves with iron chains; but a true politician binds them even more strongly with the chain of their own ideas" - Michel Foucault
Ore_Ele
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8/15/2011 1:09:36 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I've always thought that the best were (in order of who I remember first)...

Roy,
J.Kenyon,
and Bluesteel.
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kohai
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8/15/2011 1:10:33 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Danielle;
Contradiction;
Freeman; and
petersaysstuff
1) Whatever has contradictory attributes does not exist.
2) The Biblical God has contradictory attributes.
3) Therefore, the Biblical God does not exist
BlackVoid
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8/15/2011 1:15:51 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I always learn something when these guys debate, and they always dominate the competition.

1. Bluesteel
2. Grape
3. J. Kenyon
Tim_Spin
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8/15/2011 1:31:35 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Grape
Freeman
J.Kenyon
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freedomsquared
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8/15/2011 1:42:15 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
RoyLatham
Kleptin
Brian (although maybe not the normal connotation of best)
But it's Norway, sort of the Canada of Europe."
-innomen

http://www.debate.org...
-humorous debate with brian_eggleston

http://www.debate.org...
-tournament debate, need votes
wierdman
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8/15/2011 1:50:59 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
in my opinion, the best debaters are (not in order):
Roy latham
ore-Ele
Daniella
Freedo
inomen
darkermit
mongoose
mongeese
grape
the skeptic

Top ten (my opinion)
medic0506
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8/15/2011 3:26:02 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/15/2011 1:10:33 PM, kohai wrote:
Danielle;
Contradiction;
Freeman; and
petersaysstuff

We also need a list of people who shouldn't be allowed to vote on debates.

1. Kohai
Double_R
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8/15/2011 7:48:48 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
RoyLathem
Danielle
Contradiction

These are the few that have stood out to me. I've spent more time reading and voting on newer debates so I havent seen too much of the other names mentioned frequently by other members.
DetectableNinja
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8/15/2011 7:50:43 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/15/2011 3:26:02 PM, medic0506 wrote:
At 8/15/2011 1:10:33 PM, kohai wrote:
Danielle;
Contradiction;
Freeman; and
petersaysstuff

We also need a list of people who shouldn't be allowed to vote on debates.

1. Kohai

I know I've been talking in the forum about him A LOT, but it's true: #1 to not vote: Izbo10. He votebombs any religious debate.
Think'st thou heaven is such a glorious thing?
I tell thee, 'tis not half so fair as thou
Or any man that breathes on earth.

- Christopher Marlowe, Doctor Faustus
Man-is-good
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8/15/2011 8:02:15 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I would also recommend Ahijah (http://www.debate.org...). He votes based on his personal beliefs, not on what is given or presented in the debate...Here's one of his RFDs:

"f man can't fall. We are all wasting time here in debating the Word of God. Our being here proves we can lose our salvation. And I believe Dan has used the Bible to prove his arguments." (http://www.debate.org...)
"Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto." --Terence

"I believe that the mind can be permanently profaned by the habit of attending to trivial things, so that all our thoughts shall be tinged with triviality."--Thoreau
Man-is-good
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8/15/2011 8:08:43 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
My top ten debaters include...: (in no particular order or ranking)

Danielle
RoyWLatham
J. Kenyon
Cody.Franklin
Contradiction
Grape
Mongeese
Kleptin
Logical Master
Reformed_Arsenal
"Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto." --Terence

"I believe that the mind can be permanently profaned by the habit of attending to trivial things, so that all our thoughts shall be tinged with triviality."--Thoreau
Illegalcombatant
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8/15/2011 10:24:24 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
How about also best current active debaters.

Also some people are great in certain specific categories.

I don't think I have read enough debates to really make an informed opinion on this but I would be curious as to who people regard as the best debaters in certain area's like....

Theology - Both for and against the existence of God/supernatural

Ethics -

Science -

Roy Latham ?

Funny debates

Koopin ? R.I.P

Current hot button issues - Gay marriage, global warming, terrorism

Policy debates -
"Seems like another attempt to insert God into areas our knowledge has yet to penetrate. You figure God would be bigger than the gaps of our ignorance." Drafterman 19/5/12
darkkermit
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8/16/2011 4:02:14 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/15/2011 1:50:59 PM, wierdman wrote:
in my opinion, the best debaters are (not in order):
Roy latham
ore-Ele
Daniella
Freedo
inomen
: darkermit
mongoose
mongeese
grape
the skeptic

Top ten (my opinion)

WTF?
Open borders debate:
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darkkermit
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8/16/2011 4:19:40 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Also top 20 leaderboard based on elo ranking:

1) Danielle - 8,339
2) RoyLatham - 8,160
3) Kleptin - 7,109
4) TheSkeptic - 6,041
5) Logical-Master - 5,986
6) Koopin - 5,975
7) Puck - 5,867
8) Ore_Ele - 5,846
9) wjmelements - 5,819
10) Grape - 5,768
11) beem0r - 5,752
12) JustCallMeTarzan - 5,644
13) InquireTruth - 5,363
14) Kinesis - 5,034
15) Bluesteel - 4,973
16) J.Kenyon - 4,886
17) Mangani - 4,776
18) m93samman - 4,724
19) feverish - 4,675
20) Korashk - 4,665
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truthseeker613
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8/16/2011 7:37:44 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Top 10: (basicly in order)

1)Roy lathem

2)puck

3)grape

4)Daniela

5)Ore_Ele

6)bluesteel

7)Inquiretruth

8)Kenisis

9)Mangani

10)m93samman
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royalpaladin: I'd rather support people who kill spies than a nation that organizes assassination squads (Kidon) to illegally enter into other nations and kill anybody who is not a Zionist. Who knows when they'll kill me for the crime of not supporting Israel?

Koopin: LOL! I just imagine Royal sitting in here apartment at night, when suddenly she hears a man outside speaking Hebrew as sh
wierdman
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8/16/2011 7:52:41 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/16/2011 7:37:44 AM, truthseeker613 wrote:
Top 10: (basicly in order)

1)Roy lathem

2)puck

3)grape

4)Daniela

5)Ore_Ele

6)bluesteel

7)Inquiretruth

8)Kenisis

9)Mangani

10)m93samman

nice organization.