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mattrodstrom
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8/19/2011 1:51:43 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Why are you banning askbob?

Please stop, it's annoying.
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8/19/2011 2:09:19 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/19/2011 2:08:07 PM, seraine wrote:
Huh?

It's messing up the mafia games.
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8/19/2011 2:11:36 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/19/2011 1:51:43 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
Why are you banning askbob?

Please stop, it's annoying.

So if someone is banned for harrassing other members, if they create another account to come back, they should just be allowed back and not rebanned? That defeats the purpose of banning in the first place.
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8/19/2011 2:13:41 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/19/2011 2:11:36 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 8/19/2011 1:51:43 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
Why are you banning askbob?

Please stop, it's annoying.

So if someone is banned for harrassing other members, if they create another account to come back, they should just be allowed back and not rebanned? That defeats the purpose of banning in the first place.

Sounds like he was just trying to finish a game and wasn't hurting anyone.
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8/19/2011 2:14:11 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Who gets annoyed over someone else's banishment? calm down. The mods will ban whoever they want.
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8/19/2011 2:15:38 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/19/2011 2:13:41 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 8/19/2011 2:11:36 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 8/19/2011 1:51:43 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
Why are you banning askbob?

Please stop, it's annoying.

So if someone is banned for harrassing other members, if they create another account to come back, they should just be allowed back and not rebanned? That defeats the purpose of banning in the first place.

Sounds like he was just trying to finish a game and wasn't hurting anyone.

That's like a criminal who escaped jail illegally but isn't hurting anyone. We should just let him be?
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8/19/2011 2:16:30 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/19/2011 2:13:41 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 8/19/2011 2:11:36 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 8/19/2011 1:51:43 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
Why are you banning askbob?

Please stop, it's annoying.

So if someone is banned for harrassing other members, if they create another account to come back, they should just be allowed back and not rebanned? That defeats the purpose of banning in the first place.

Sounds like he was just trying to finish a game and wasn't hurting anyone.

Except that he was also signing up for new games (so he wasn't just finishing).
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8/19/2011 2:21:18 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/19/2011 2:16:30 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 8/19/2011 2:13:41 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 8/19/2011 2:11:36 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 8/19/2011 1:51:43 PM, mattrodstrom wrote:
Why are you banning askbob?

Please stop, it's annoying.

So if someone is banned for harrassing other members, if they create another account to come back, they should just be allowed back and not rebanned? That defeats the purpose of banning in the first place.

Sounds like he was just trying to finish a game and wasn't hurting anyone.

Except that he was also signing up for new games (so he wasn't just finishing).

Ok, didn't know that.
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8/19/2011 2:50:27 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/19/2011 2:49:06 PM, askbob3 wrote:
Let's play a little game. Every time I'm banned I'll reveal some info from one of the members in favor of my banning.



LOL THIS.

Askbob, you've just changed my opinion of you.
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8/19/2011 2:56:11 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/19/2011 2:50:27 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 8/19/2011 2:49:06 PM, askbob3 wrote:
Let's play a little game. Every time I'm banned I'll reveal some info from one of the members in favor of my banning.



LOL THIS.

Askbob, you've just changed my opinion of you.

Now I say we just keep banning to learn stuff.
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8/19/2011 3:08:01 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/19/2011 2:49:06 PM, askbob3 wrote:
Let's play a little game. Every time I'm banned I'll reveal some info from one of the members in favor of my banning.
Can't the mods ban your IP address? :/
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8/19/2011 3:08:32 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/19/2011 3:08:01 PM, Kinesis wrote:
At 8/19/2011 2:49:06 PM, askbob3 wrote:
Let's play a little game. Every time I'm banned I'll reveal some info from one of the members in favor of my banning.
Can't the mods ban your IP address? :/

He probably uses a proxy.
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8/19/2011 3:10:35 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/19/2011 3:08:32 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
He probably uses a proxy.

Fair enough. Well then, I second askbob's plan. I'm curious.
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8/19/2011 3:19:27 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
How does posting publicly available information, like links to facebook pics, violate the TOS?
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8/19/2011 3:23:59 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/19/2011 3:21:20 PM, askbob77777 wrote:
At 8/19/2011 3:19:27 PM, bluesteel wrote:
How does posting publicly available information, like links to facebook pics, violate the TOS?

Because Juggle randomly decided it did one day Even though if you google "Freedo" You'll get his wikipedia which lists even more publically available info.

If someone makes an account on here called google they'll be banned for linking members info.

If Juggle had a problem with the content, I don't see why they didn't just remove the posts, rather than banning you.
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8/19/2011 3:26:06 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Let me get this straight. They ban you if you give information they don't want you to give, but WON'T ban trolls who curse their mouths off in the forums for a week.
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8/19/2011 3:48:18 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/19/2011 3:23:59 PM, bluesteel wrote:
At 8/19/2011 3:21:20 PM, askbob77777 wrote:
At 8/19/2011 3:19:27 PM, bluesteel wrote:
How does posting publicly available information, like links to facebook pics, violate the TOS?

Because Juggle randomly decided it did one day Even though if you google "Freedo" You'll get his wikipedia which lists even more publically available info.

If someone makes an account on here called google they'll be banned for linking members info.

If Juggle had a problem with the content, I don't see why they didn't just remove the posts, rather than banning you.

Because he kept posting more. That's like saying if you have a dog that keeps crapping on the carpet, why don't you just keep cleaning the crap, rather than fix the dog (by either correcting their behavior or removing the dog).
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8/19/2011 3:54:03 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Okay, let's ban him again, so he can create another account and see if he can come up with something better.
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8/19/2011 4:23:11 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/19/2011 3:54:03 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Okay, let's ban him again, so he can create another account and see if he can come up with something better.

lol What if it's about you?? :p

*Waves at askbob*
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8/19/2011 4:28:06 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/19/2011 3:08:32 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 8/19/2011 3:08:01 PM, Kinesis wrote:
At 8/19/2011 2:49:06 PM, askbob3 wrote:
Let's play a little game. Every time I'm banned I'll reveal some info from one of the members in favor of my banning.
Can't the mods ban your IP address? :/

He probably uses a proxy.

Or he, like me, has a dynamic IP address. Very useful, I might add. The only way you can get caught is off you log on to both accounts during the same internet session.
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8/19/2011 4:28:11 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/19/2011 4:23:11 PM, nonentity wrote:
At 8/19/2011 3:54:03 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Okay, let's ban him again, so he can create another account and see if he can come up with something better.

lol What if it's about you?? :p

*Waves at askbob*

I don't put things on the internet I don't want to risk being found out. Plus, I don't think he could find anything anyway.
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8/19/2011 4:36:39 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/19/2011 4:28:11 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 8/19/2011 4:23:11 PM, nonentity wrote:
At 8/19/2011 3:54:03 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Okay, let's ban him again, so he can create another account and see if he can come up with something better.

lol What if it's about you?? :p

*Waves at askbob*

I don't put things on the internet I don't want to risk being found out. Plus, I don't think he could find anything anyway.

I have a whole slew of DDOers on my FB :p But there's a difference between not caring if my friends know certain things about me and having my information posted here.
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8/19/2011 4:39:34 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/19/2011 4:36:39 PM, nonentity wrote:
At 8/19/2011 4:28:11 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 8/19/2011 4:23:11 PM, nonentity wrote:
At 8/19/2011 3:54:03 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Okay, let's ban him again, so he can create another account and see if he can come up with something better.

lol What if it's about you?? :p

*Waves at askbob*

I don't put things on the internet I don't want to risk being found out. Plus, I don't think he could find anything anyway.

I have a whole slew of DDOers on my FB :p But there's a difference between not caring if my friends know certain things about me and having my information posted here.

I had a slew, but I've since removed them. I currently only have 1. I also agree. Just because something is on the internet does not mean it is intended to be used in such a manner.

For example, your address. If you have your name listed as public, that means that you don't mind that others know your name, but from your name, I can look you up in a phone book and address book and get your listed phone number and your address. Going around and sharing (or even calling, as Askbob has done to another member that he didn't like) that info with others, in a direct attempt to intimidate you is totally bannable.
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8/19/2011 4:56:43 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/19/2011 4:39:34 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:

For example, your address. If you have your name listed as public, that means that you don't mind that others know your name, but from your name, I can look you up in a phone book and address book and get your listed phone number and your address. Going around and sharing (or even calling, as Askbob has done to another member that he didn't like) that info with others, in a direct attempt to intimidate you is totally bannable.

I thought askbob was an anti-troll crusader, but from the way you describe him, he sounds like a troll himself.
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8/19/2011 5:05:09 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/19/2011 4:56:43 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 8/19/2011 4:39:34 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:

For example, your address. If you have your name listed as public, that means that you don't mind that others know your name, but from your name, I can look you up in a phone book and address book and get your listed phone number and your address. Going around and sharing (or even calling, as Askbob has done to another member that he didn't like) that info with others, in a direct attempt to intimidate you is totally bannable.


I thought askbob was an anti-troll crusader, but from the way you describe him, he sounds like a troll himself.

He was an anti-anyone-that-he-considers-a-troll. To the point where a new member would join and he'd practically instantly think that they were a troll.

He's launched numerous attacks against new members that he thought were multi-accounters, dug up phone numbers and addresses of them, he has contacted them (one of them), he has threatened them, he's done a lot.

All in all, I believe he was acting in a way that he thought was best for DDO, but he was like McAurther in Korea.
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8/19/2011 5:09:39 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/19/2011 5:05:09 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 8/19/2011 4:56:43 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 8/19/2011 4:39:34 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:

For example, your address. If you have your name listed as public, that means that you don't mind that others know your name, but from your name, I can look you up in a phone book and address book and get your listed phone number and your address. Going around and sharing (or even calling, as Askbob has done to another member that he didn't like) that info with others, in a direct attempt to intimidate you is totally bannable.


I thought askbob was an anti-troll crusader, but from the way you describe him, he sounds like a troll himself.

He was an anti-anyone-that-he-considers-a-troll. To the point where a new member would join and he'd practically instantly think that they were a troll.

He's launched numerous attacks against new members that he thought were multi-accounters, dug up phone numbers and addresses of them, he has contacted them (one of them), he has threatened them, he's done a lot.

All in all, I believe he was acting in a way that he thought was best for DDO, but he was like McAurther in Korea.

he reminds me of McCarthy on Communism.
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8/19/2011 7:42:31 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
askbob is hilarious. enough said. most people here are wankers anyway.. at least he's colourful.
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8/19/2011 7:47:54 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/19/2011 7:42:31 PM, el-badgero wrote:
askbob is hilarious. enough said. most people here are wankers anyway.. at least he's colourful.

wee pony! ...which wasn't to say i approve! more just don't really give a sh1t. and that he's funny! though.. through his antics.. which kinda........ ammm.... i'll just go :P

let him stay!
DATCMOTO's moustache makes him look like an eejit...

edit: nah, i'm jealous... God's an eejit definitely though!