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Trolls Accepting Debates.

jimtimmy
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8/30/2011 11:42:01 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Okay, so you work hard writing the terms, thinking of a topic, and making the first argument of a debate.

You wait a couple of days for someone to accept, and are glad someone finally did. But, it turns out that they are some dumbass troll who just writes some stupid not-funny stuff and ruins this debate.

Any Thoughts?
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BlackVoid
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8/30/2011 11:46:16 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Pros:

Easy win
You learned from researching the topic
You have a case written for when you debate a real opponent
Drew attention to a troll who should be removed shortly

Cons:

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F-16_Fighting_Falcon
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8/30/2011 11:49:59 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/30/2011 11:46:16 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
Pros:

Easy win
You learned from researching the topic
You have a case written for when you debate a real opponent
Drew attention to a troll who should be removed shortly

Cons:
You want to have a debate but your opponent forfeits or posts rubbish
You are tired if ad-homs from your opponent who believes he is superior to you
You don't feel challenged
You don't get an adrenaline rush everytime your opponent posts a round
Double_R
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8/31/2011 1:08:04 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/30/2011 11:49:59 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 8/30/2011 11:46:16 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
Pros:

Easy win
You learned from researching the topic
You have a case written for when you debate a real opponent
Drew attention to a troll who should be removed shortly

Cons:
You want to have a debate but your opponent forfeits or posts rubbish
You are tired if ad-homs from your opponent who believes he is superior to you
You don't feel challenged
You don't get an adrenaline rush everytime your opponent posts a round

Pros and Cons should both be realized. I always try to look at the Pros, life is too short to worry about the Cons. Anyway take the easy win and post again. Next time set a rule for your opponents criteria (3 wins or whatever you specify). That should lower the chances of some dumbass troll accepting. But then again...
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Man-is-good
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8/31/2011 2:00:21 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/30/2011 11:46:16 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
Pros:

Easy win
You learned from researching the topic
You have a case written for when you debate a real opponent
Drew attention to a troll who should be removed shortly
More motivation to debate (the same topic)

Cons:
Lack of intellectual challenge
You are forced to deal with people who just forfeit, or post idiotic nonsense
You are forced to deal with ad hominems as well
You have wasted a potentially-enlightening experience with a wasted debate with a troll
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Ore_Ele
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8/31/2011 10:02:39 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/30/2011 11:42:01 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
Okay, so you work hard writing the terms, thinking of a topic, and making the first argument of a debate.

You wait a couple of days for someone to accept, and are glad someone finally did. But, it turns out that they are some dumbass troll who just writes some stupid not-funny stuff and ruins this debate.

Any Thoughts?

After you get the automatic win, just repost the debate (copy and paste it).
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LeafRod
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8/31/2011 10:46:35 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
Just post the debate again. Is that really hard? Is it more difficult to "deal with ad hominems" and "deal with trolls" than to post it again?
Man-is-good
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8/31/2011 12:29:30 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 8/31/2011 10:46:35 AM, LeafRod wrote:
Just post the debate again. Is that really hard? Is it more difficult to "deal with ad hominems" and "deal with trolls" than to post it again?

No it isn't. In fact, if you could read, you would have noticed that one of the alleged Pros of 'trolls accepting debates' was your increased motivating to re-debate the topic.

Of course, this thread is just a bit of a way to complain about the shortcomings of debating a troll who has no will to argue reasonably...
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RoyLatham
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8/31/2011 9:32:55 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I think it was BlackVoid who suggested to me to use the "first round is for acceptance only" technique to avoid opponents backing out when they see the case. Great idea! The resolution must be clarified and definition given in the challenge nonetheless, other wise it invites semantic arguments.

To that one can add a challenge condition, "Anyone accepting this debate must have at least three wins at DDO. By accepting, my opponent agrees that all points should be voted against him if this condition is not met." Trolls don't have any wins.

If a troll accepts, you can collect the win without revealing the case. The troll gets his jollies from wasting your time, not from collecting losses.