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10/7/2011 12:23:37 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
don't...................care. :)
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CosmicAlfonzo
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10/7/2011 12:39:41 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
I'm a huge history nerd, and I still don't support it.

Why? I can't really see anything being debatable when it comes to history. The things that people think are debatable are not really when put next to the historic method. The people who go against the historic method are considered to be imbeciles by anyone who actually understands it.
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Danielle
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10/7/2011 1:34:48 AM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/7/2011 12:39:41 AM, CosmicAlfonzo wrote:
I'm a huge history nerd, and I still don't support it.

Why? I can't really see anything being debatable when it comes to history. The things that people think are debatable are not really when put next to the historic method. The people who go against the historic method are considered to be imbeciles by anyone who actually understands it.

This is a little arrogant. There are plenty of things that can be debated in history... Was the U.S. right in dropping the atomic bombs? Did the Founding Fathers intend to apply their personal faith to the nation and/or make it a "Christian" country? Should the Constitution be interpreted 'fundamentally' like the Tea Partyists suggest? Should the States have had the right to secede without having to fight a war for freedom? Who was a better president - President X or President Y? Were the European alliances beneficial or problematic regarding WWI? Did the Industrial Revolution overall have a net positive or negative effect? I think all of these topics would make for interesting debates, and do not necessarily have a black and white answer to anyone that "properly" understands the historic method. Of course I'm guessing you're going to be the person who determines if one has a good grasp on it or not, eh? Anyway, I still vote No to the history forum. I encourage history debates though :)
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10/8/2011 9:37:08 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
do support
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10/8/2011 9:38:39 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Most Historical Debates can be fit into one of the existing categories... And, we don't want to get into the trouble of creating TOO MANY categories...

Having said that, History seems like a reasonable thing to add
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10/11/2011 1:44:20 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/11/2011 1:39:50 PM, Mikeee wrote:
Does DDO need a history category debate

http://www.debate.org...

We can reset that debate if you like. Maybe Rocky would take it more seriously.
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10/11/2011 2:23:09 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
do
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10/11/2011 3:00:58 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I answered this the first time you asked, and I'll say the same thing right now. It is not necessary. Every debate Danielle listed that could be in this history category fit just as well in other categories. "Was the U.S right in dropping the atomic bomb" this can range from politics to society to philosophy, or even science. And we have the fail safe, the miscellaneous category.

I find it silly to expend so much time and energy on such a menial addition to the site.
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10/11/2011 3:08:36 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/11/2011 3:00:58 PM, 000ike wrote:
I answered this the first time you asked, and I'll say the same thing right now. It is not necessary. Every debate Danielle listed that could be in this history category fit just as well in other categories. "Was the U.S right in dropping the atomic bomb" this can range from politics to society to philosophy, or even science. And we have the fail safe, the miscellaneous category.

I find it silly to expend so much time and energy on such a menial addition to the site.

If we where having a debate on weather it was good or bad historical, it would be a completely different story...
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10/11/2011 3:11:58 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/11/2011 3:08:36 PM, Mikeee wrote:
At 10/11/2011 3:00:58 PM, 000ike wrote:
I answered this the first time you asked, and I'll say the same thing right now. It is not necessary. Every debate Danielle listed that could be in this history category fit just as well in other categories. "Was the U.S right in dropping the atomic bomb" this can range from politics to society to philosophy, or even science. And we have the fail safe, the miscellaneous category.

I find it silly to expend so much time and energy on such a menial addition to the site.

If we were having a debate on weather it was good or bad historical, it would be a completely different story...

I'd be up for it, we have useless categories now, but honestly i have yet to find many people that are so interested in history as i am, and fewer who are able to sustain a serious discussion on it. JBlake was probably the most impressive history major guy that we ever had, and he always had a good spin on it.
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10/11/2011 3:20:10 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/11/2011 3:15:48 PM, Mikeee wrote:
What would it take to get DDO to add a history category?

More people to support it.
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10/11/2011 3:22:40 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/11/2011 3:20:10 PM, innomen wrote:
At 10/11/2011 3:15:48 PM, Mikeee wrote:
What would it take to get DDO to add a history category?

More people to support it.

good luck with that. Everyone supported an ELO system but that never happened. In fact, nothing has changed except for the view of number of votes, since I joined 3 months ago.
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innomen
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10/11/2011 3:25:11 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/11/2011 3:22:40 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 10/11/2011 3:20:10 PM, innomen wrote:
At 10/11/2011 3:15:48 PM, Mikeee wrote:
What would it take to get DDO to add a history category?

More people to support it.

good luck with that. Everyone supported an ELO system but that never happened. In fact, nothing has changed except for the view of number of votes, since I joined 3 months ago.

Actually i think that messing around with the categories isn't as big a deal for Juggle as the ELO voting. They've done it before, there didn't used to be an economics category, or a philosophy category.
Mikeee
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10/11/2011 6:15:35 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/11/2011 3:22:40 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 10/11/2011 3:20:10 PM, innomen wrote:
At 10/11/2011 3:15:48 PM, Mikeee wrote:
What would it take to get DDO to add a history category?

More people to support it.

good luck with that. Everyone supported an ELO system but that never happened. In fact, nothing has changed except for the view of number of votes, since I joined 3 months ago.

This site isn't super complex, it has a few basic links and templates. Adding/removing a category wouldn't even take one hour...
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10/11/2011 7:40:50 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
We have a history forum. It is called, "Society."
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10/11/2011 7:58:20 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
The fundamental problem with history is that nobody learns from it and it is rewritten about every 20 to 30 years. The history they taught me as a child has all but been erased from history books of today. I could no more pass a high school history test of today than a child of today could pass a history test I had when I was in high school. It would be like taking history tests of different countries.
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10/11/2011 8:56:28 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 10/11/2011 7:58:20 PM, sadolite wrote:
The fundamental problem with history is that nobody learns from it and it is rewritten about every 20 to 30 years. The history they taught me as a child has all but been erased from history books of today. I could no more pass a high school history test of today than a child of today could pass a history test I had when I was in high school. It would be like taking history tests of different countries.

It's the same with science. Every so often new discoveries are made that change everything, and either builds on existing theories, or completely destroys them and they have to be re-written.