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11/14/2011 3:46:28 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
So I will hopefully get a monthly ELO rankings update. I'll try to do it in the middle of every month. As with always, please PM me if you want your score, or ask in this thread.

First, I'd like to say congrats to 4 members that have moved up into the Top150 since last time.

First, Lordknukle, went from #179 (on 10/20) to #107 as of this morning.
Spritle went from #201 to #118
TUF, from #937 up to #134
And Rogue from #323 up to #136

The Top10 in ELO score improvement are

1) TUF - up 665 points
2) Rogue - 399 points
3) Lordknukle - 324
4) Spritle - 290
5) Freedo - 265
6) Ore_Ele - 228
7) Jm_notguilty - 221
8) Thett3 - 184
9) Johnicle - 173
10) GaryBacon - 170

So, without further waiting, here is the list of Top150

1) RoyLatham with 7830 points
2) Danielle with 7572 points
3) Kleptin with 6531 points
4) Ore_Ele with 6182 points
5) TheSkeptic with 6014 points
6) bluesteel with 5686 points
7) Logical-Master with 5607 points
8) JustCallMeTarzan with 5526 points
9) wjmelements with 5507 points
10) Koopin with 5470 points
11) Puck with 5406 points
12) beem0r with 5087 points
13) Grape with 5060 points
14) Kinesis with 4931 points
15) feverish with 4745 points
16) InquireTruth with 4682 points
17) J.Kenyon with 4672 points
18) m93samman with 4442 points
19) FREEDO with 4423 points
20) Mangani with 4416 points
21) Korashk with 4303 points
22) CiRrK with 4297 points
23) Cody_Franklin with 4254 points
24) Freeman with 4215 points
25) ReformedArsenal with 4206 points
26) Yraelz with 4180 points
27) thett3 with 4155 points
28) Contradiction with 4091 points
29) BlackVoid with 4059 points
30) burningpuppies101 with 4047 points
31) studentathletechristian8 with 4041 points
32) alto2osu with 3990 points
33) MTGandP with 3982 points
34) Nails with 3974 points
35) Ragnar_Rahl with 3963 points
36) JBlake with 3921 points
37) mongeese with 3911 points
38) Vi_Veri with 3815 points
39) KRFournier with 3755 points
40) XStrikeX with 3747 points
41) socialpinko with 3700 points
42) quarterexchange with 3687 points
43) LaissezFaire with 3637 points
44) Maikuru with 3637 points
45) Metz with 3633 points
46) daley with 3606 points
47) I-am-a-panda with 3587 points
48) Mirza with 3527 points
49) SolaGratia with 3523 points
50) Double_R with 3499 points
51) Xer with 3498 points
52) rougeagent21 with 3479 points
53) Darth_Grievous_42 with 3476 points
54) GaryBacon with 3474 points
55) Atheism with 3456 points
56) Rockylightning with 3426 points
57) jm_notguilty with 3397 points
58) Alex with 3344 points
59) Cliff.Stamp with 3324 points
60) F-16_Fighting_Falcon with 3320 points
61) belle with 3318 points
62) Johnicle with 3298 points
63) PoeJoe with 3289 points
64) omelet with 3286 points
65) petersaysstuff with 3279 points
66) GeorgeCarlinWorshipper with 3272 points
67) KeytarHero with 3261 points
68) BillBonJovi with 3259 points
69) leet4A1 with 3258 points
70) brittwaller with 3253 points
71) BangBang-Coconut with 3253 points
72) comoncents with 3250 points
73) Loserboi with 3245 points
74) Spiral with 3240 points
75) kenito001 with 3216 points
76) cody30228 with 3204 points
77) Raisor with 3197 points
78) InsertNameHere with 3197 points
79) littlelacroix with 3194 points
80) s0m31john with 3186 points
81) GeoLaureate8 with 3168 points
82) popculturepooka with 3160 points
83) Biowza with 3156 points
84) sherlockmethod with 3152 points
85) Lexicaholic with 3144 points
86) ToastOfDestiny with 3119 points
87) untitled_entity with 3114 points
88) SportsGuru with 3112 points
89) Thaddeus with 3102 points
90) Zealous1 with 3102 points
91) Patrick_Henry with 3092 points
92) twsurber with 3091 points
93) unitedandy with 3067 points
94) SkepticsAskHere with 3063 points
95) knick-knack with 3059 points
96) TheFreeThinker with 3057 points
97) Yvette with 3041 points
98) draxxt with 3031 points
99) Brian314 with 3025 points
100) OMGJustinBieber with 3011 points
101) HandsOff with 3006 points
102) Cerebral_Narcissist with 2971 points
103) Chrysippus with 2956 points
104) pcmbrown with 2945 points
105) Rezzealaux with 2937 points
106) Protagoras with 2934 points
107) Lordknukle with 2927 points
108) Merda with 2921 points
109) nrw with 2887 points
110) Sieben with 2885 points
111) Bitz with 2878 points
112) wierdman with 2878 points
113) gavin.ogden with 2875 points
114) Brenavia with 2871 points
115) patsox834 with 2867 points
116) dvhoose with 2863 points
117) PartamRuhem with 2863 points
118) Spritle with 2848 points
119) johngriswald with 2848 points
120) iamadragon with 2835 points
121) tribefan011 with 2831 points
122) Lickdafoot with 2825 points
123) gizmo1650 with 2821 points
124) Zerosmelt with 2821 points
125) MistahKurtz with 2820 points
126) darkkermit with 2817 points
127) theitalianstallion with 2814 points
128) FunkeeMonk91 with 2807 points
129) gahbage with 2800 points
130) phantom with 2794 points
131) rwebberc with 2793 points
132) Marauder with 2793 points
133) DrAlexander with 2787 points
134) TUF with 2783 points
135) dogparktom with 2780 points
136) rogue with 2763 points
137) Sky_ace25 with 2758 points
138) PreacherFred with 2757 points
139) randolph7 with 2741 points
140) Brock_Meyer with 2734 points
141) scissorhands7 with 2719 points
142) leethal with 2716 points
143) Robert_Santurri with 2715 points
144) BlueLemon with 2704 points
145) Geekis_Khan with 2701 points
146) TheRaven with 2693 points
147) waylon.fairbanks with 2693 points
148) abney317 with 2689 points
149) masterzanzibar with 2686 points
150) griffinisright with 2685 points
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11/14/2011 4:04:21 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I have a question.

I'll use one of my debates to illustrate.
http://www.debate.org...

This was one of my first debates on the website. I lost due to a poorly stated resolution.
Now, obviously I am ranked much higher now than I was then, but my opponent has not debated much at all since then and is about the same rank as he was when we debated. When we did the debate we were both about the same rank.

Here's my question.
Does your formula judge how many points I lost by what my ranking is right now or by what it was back then?

Thanks, I know I've been one of the only ones who has really opposed ELO, but I'm becoming less skeptical and am starting to lean towards it. This was just one question I wanted answered.
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11/14/2011 4:57:37 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/14/2011 4:04:21 PM, phantom wrote:
I have a question.

I'll use one of my debates to illustrate.
http://www.debate.org...

This was one of my first debates on the website. I lost due to a poorly stated resolution.
Now, obviously I am ranked much higher now than I was then, but my opponent has not debated much at all since then and is about the same rank as he was when we debated. When we did the debate we were both about the same rank.

Here's my question.
Does your formula judge how many points I lost by what my ranking is right now or by what it was back then?

Thanks, I know I've been one of the only ones who has really opposed ELO, but I'm becoming less skeptical and am starting to lean towards it. This was just one question I wanted answered.

It goes by what your rank was at the START of the debate.
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11/14/2011 7:18:50 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/14/2011 7:14:41 PM, JustCallMeTarzan wrote:
What the hell is this ELO stuff?

Sounds like witchcraft to me.
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11/14/2011 7:28:09 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
hmm I suppose this is better than the current system, but I still dont think its accurate.

I dont like the odds of me winning a debate against people like Contradiction, Blackvoid, mongeese, or KRFouriner all of whom are below me on ELO
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11/14/2011 7:29:55 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Can you give me my ELO rating?
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11/14/2011 7:37:06 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
I want to know my ELO rank too........even if its a bunch of witchcraft.
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11/14/2011 8:01:27 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/14/2011 3:46:28 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
So I will hopefully get a monthly ELO rankings update. I'll try to do it in the middle of every month. As with always, please PM me if you want your score, or ask in this thread.

First, I'd like to say congrats to 4 members that have moved up into the Top150 since last time.

First, Lordknukle, went from #179 (on 10/20) to #107 as of this morning.
Spritle went from #201 to #118
TUF, from #937 up to #134
And Rogue from #323 up to #136

The Top10 in ELO score improvement are

1) TUF - up 665 points
2) Rogue - 399 points
3) Lordknukle - 324
4) Spritle - 290
5) Freedo - 265
6) Ore_Ele - 228
7) Jm_notguilty - 221
8) Thett3 - 184
9) Johnicle - 173
10) GaryBacon - 170

So, without further waiting, here is the list of Top150

1) RoyLatham with 7830 points
2) Danielle with 7572 points
3) Kleptin with 6531 points
4) Ore_Ele with 6182 points
5) TheSkeptic with 6014 points
6) bluesteel with 5686 points
7) Logical-Master with 5607 points
8) JustCallMeTarzan with 5526 points
9) wjmelements with 5507 points
10) Koopin with 5470 points
11) Puck with 5406 points
12) beem0r with 5087 points
13) Grape with 5060 points
14) Kinesis with 4931 points
15) feverish with 4745 points
16) InquireTruth with 4682 points
17) J.Kenyon with 4672 points
18) m93samman with 4442 points
19) FREEDO with 4423 points
20) Mangani with 4416 points
21) Korashk with 4303 points
22) CiRrK with 4297 points
23) Cody_Franklin with 4254 points
24) Freeman with 4215 points
25) ReformedArsenal with 4206 points
26) Yraelz with 4180 points
27) thett3 with 4155 points
28) Contradiction with 4091 points
29) BlackVoid with 4059 points
30) burningpuppies101 with 4047 points
31) studentathletechristian8 with 4041 points
32) alto2osu with 3990 points
33) MTGandP with 3982 points
34) Nails with 3974 points
35) Ragnar_Rahl with 3963 points
36) JBlake with 3921 points
37) mongeese with 3911 points
38) Vi_Veri with 3815 points
39) KRFournier with 3755 points
40) XStrikeX with 3747 points
41) socialpinko with 3700 points
42) quarterexchange with 3687 points
43) LaissezFaire with 3637 points
44) Maikuru with 3637 points
45) Metz with 3633 points
46) daley with 3606 points
47) I-am-a-panda with 3587 points
48) Mirza with 3527 points
49) SolaGratia with 3523 points
50) Double_R with 3499 points
51) Xer with 3498 points
52) rougeagent21 with 3479 points
53) Darth_Grievous_42 with 3476 points
54) GaryBacon with 3474 points
55) Atheism with 3456 points
56) Rockylightning with 3426 points
57) jm_notguilty with 3397 points
58) Alex with 3344 points
59) Cliff.Stamp with 3324 points
60) F-16_Fighting_Falcon with 3320 points
61) belle with 3318 points
62) Johnicle with 3298 points
63) PoeJoe with 3289 points
64) omelet with 3286 points
65) petersaysstuff with 3279 points
66) GeorgeCarlinWorshipper with 3272 points
67) KeytarHero with 3261 points
68) BillBonJovi with 3259 points
69) leet4A1 with 3258 points
70) brittwaller with 3253 points
71) BangBang-Coconut with 3253 points
72) comoncents with 3250 points
73) Loserboi with 3245 points
74) Spiral with 3240 points
75) kenito001 with 3216 points
76) cody30228 with 3204 points
77) Raisor with 3197 points
78) InsertNameHere with 3197 points
79) littlelacroix with 3194 points
80) s0m31john with 3186 points
81) GeoLaureate8 with 3168 points
82) popculturepooka with 3160 points
83) Biowza with 3156 points
84) sherlockmethod with 3152 points
85) Lexicaholic with 3144 points
86) ToastOfDestiny with 3119 points
87) untitled_entity with 3114 points
88) SportsGuru with 3112 points
89) Thaddeus with 3102 points
90) Zealous1 with 3102 points
91) Patrick_Henry with 3092 points
92) twsurber with 3091 points
93) unitedandy with 3067 points
94) SkepticsAskHere with 3063 points
95) knick-knack with 3059 points
96) TheFreeThinker with 3057 points
97) Yvette with 3041 points
98) draxxt with 3031 points
99) Brian314 with 3025 points
100) OMGJustinBieber with 3011 points
101) HandsOff with 3006 points
102) Cerebral_Narcissist with 2971 points
103) Chrysippus with 2956 points
104) pcmbrown with 2945 points
105) Rezzealaux with 2937 points
106) Protagoras with 2934 points
107) Lordknukle with 2927 points
108) Merda with 2921 points
109) nrw with 2887 points
110) Sieben with 2885 points
111) Bitz with 2878 points
112) wierdman with 2878 points
113) gavin.ogden with 2875 points
114) Brenavia with 2871 points
115) patsox834 with 2867 points
116) dvhoose with 2863 points
117) PartamRuhem with 2863 points
118) Spritle with 2848 points
119) johngriswald with 2848 points
120) iamadragon with 2835 points
121) tribefan011 with 2831 points
122) Lickdafoot with 2825 points
123) gizmo1650 with 2821 points
124) Zerosmelt with 2821 points
125) MistahKurtz with 2820 points
126) darkkermit with 2817 points
127) theitalianstallion with 2814 points
128) FunkeeMonk91 with 2807 points
129) gahbage with 2800 points
130) phantom with 2794 points
131) rwebberc with 2793 points
132) Marauder with 2793 points
133) DrAlexander with 2787 points
134) TUF with 2783 points
135) dogparktom with 2780 points
136) rogue with 2763 points
137) Sky_ace25 with 2758 points
138) PreacherFred with 2757 points
139) randolph7 with 2741 points
140) Brock_Meyer with 2734 points
141) scissorhands7 with 2719 points
142) leethal with 2716 points
143) Robert_Santurri with 2715 points
144) BlueLemon with 2704 points
145) Geekis_Khan with 2701 points
146) TheRaven with 2693 points
147) waylon.fairbanks with 2693 points
148) abney317 with 2689 points
149) masterzanzibar with 2686 points
150) griffinisright with 2685 points

What's my score?
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11/14/2011 8:03:29 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
Wow... Just wow.

Did you go through every debate in chronological order to get these results?
How much time have you invested in it?
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11/15/2011 4:19:59 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/14/2011 8:03:29 PM, tvellalott wrote:
Wow... Just wow.

Did you go through every debate in chronological order to get these results?
How much time have you invested in it?

Yes and No. I created a macro in excel to do it for me.

As for those that are not aware of what ELO is.

ELO is a ranking system (originally used in Chess, but now used in a wide veriety of things) that judges one's skills based on the skills of the opponents that they face.

Consider this, if we have two new debaters, A and B. Debater A does 20 debates, all against the top ranked debaters on DDO, and wins 13 of them (so goes 13 - 7). Debater B does 20 debates, but all against other new member and wins 13 of them (so goes 13 - 7).

Both have the same record (13 - 7), but it is logical to predict that debate A is a higher skilled debater based on who s/he faced. ELO distinguishes between this.
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11/15/2011 4:22:44 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/14/2011 7:28:09 PM, thett3 wrote:
hmm I suppose this is better than the current system, but I still dont think its accurate.

No system in the world will ever be perfect. But this is far better than merely looking at wins.


I dont like the odds of me winning a debate against people like Contradiction, Blackvoid, mongeese, or KRFouriner all of whom are below me on ELO

There's only one way to find out, lol.
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11/15/2011 4:23:35 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/14/2011 7:29:55 PM, Mr.Infidel wrote:
Can you give me my ELO rating?

2,259, probably because you keep making new accounts, which resets your score.
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11/15/2011 4:24:20 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/14/2011 7:37:06 PM, Illegalcombatant wrote:
I want to know my ELO rank too........even if its a bunch of witchcraft.

2,649, ranked at #164
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11/15/2011 4:25:26 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/14/2011 8:01:27 PM, DanT wrote:
What's my score?

2,609, ranked #179
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11/23/2011 2:45:58 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
How'd TUF improve so much? He hasn't been online in a month.
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11/23/2011 2:52:25 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/23/2011 2:45:58 PM, socialpinko wrote:
How'd TUF improve so much? He hasn't been online in a month.

Maybe he had some debates that were losses at the last count but people necrovoted and he won them?
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11/23/2011 2:56:26 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/23/2011 2:45:58 PM, socialpinko wrote:
How'd TUF improve so much? He hasn't been online in a month.

I belief it was either necro voting, or the countering of votebombing.
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11/23/2011 2:56:57 PM
Posted: 5 years ago
At 11/23/2011 2:56:26 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 11/23/2011 2:45:58 PM, socialpinko wrote:
How'd TUF improve so much? He hasn't been online in a month.

I belief it was either necro voting, or the countering of votebombing.

I will confirm shortly.
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