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Double_R
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1/29/2012 11:46:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Post your favorite debate, or any debate you feel deserves an honorable mention to be nominated for the award of January 2012's top debate! The schedule will be as follows:

Nominations: Mon 1/30 - Thu 2/2
Voting: Fri 2/3 - Sun 2/5
Winner Announced: Mon 2/6

Members are free to nominate as many debates as they wish, but will only get 1 vote. Nominating your own debates is discouraged (if no one else thought of it, it probably should not be a candidate) but permitted. The criteria will be completely subjective, but serious intellectual debates are encouraged (in my subjective opinion anyway). Good luck to all!
imabench
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1/29/2012 11:48:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
The classic trial of Izbo10 gets my vote
http://www.debate.org...
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000ike
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1/29/2012 11:50:27 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/29/2012 11:50:00 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 1/29/2012 11:48:07 PM, imabench wrote:
The classic trial of Izbo10 gets my vote
http://www.debate.org...

Pretty sure that was December.

Yeah, I was going to say this too
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1/29/2012 11:51:56 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
This is a really good idea. I haven't been able to find any good debates to vote on recently, and a contest of this sort would be a great way to get more votes on good debates by encouraging voters to check them out.
BlackVoid
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1/29/2012 11:56:17 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/29/2012 11:51:56 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
This is a really good idea. I haven't been able to find any good debates to vote on recently, and a contest of this sort would be a great way to get more votes on good debates by encouraging voters to check them out.

This just ended. Pretty sure its gonna win.

http://www.debate.org...
Man-is-good
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1/29/2012 11:58:30 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I would love to post an exemplary debate; unfortunately, I haven't seen any groundbreaking or astonishing debate this month....Frankly, I must admit that there's been a great decline in the quality of the recently-ended debates that I vote and skim over (lack of substance in arguments, depth, sources, and so forth) but I'll post one debate that comes remotely close to what a "debate of the month" should be like...
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1/29/2012 11:59:19 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/29/2012 11:56:17 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 1/29/2012 11:51:56 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
This is a really good idea. I haven't been able to find any good debates to vote on recently, and a contest of this sort would be a great way to get more votes on good debates by encouraging voters to check them out.

This just ended. Pretty sure its gonna win.

http://www.debate.org...

Oh, look a nominee....

I'd like to nominate this one for the month...until I find an even superior debate from this month.:)
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1/30/2012 12:02:20 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
This is a good idea. Now if only we could get the "best of" debates posted on the front page as so many have suggested in the past.
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Double_R
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1/30/2012 12:13:35 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/30/2012 12:02:10 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
Double R, you have any nominations?

http://www.debate.org...

I though this one was pretty good. Although I do agree that the quality does seem to have gone down a bit recently. Hopefully this thread will reveal some that were missed, and bring some attention back to the concept of searching for and having good debates rather then creating new threads about how bad DDO has gotten.
000ike
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1/30/2012 8:01:48 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I nominate this one http://www.debate.org...
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Double_R
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1/30/2012 2:04:14 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Here are the nominees so far:

http://www.debate.org...
000ike vs. jimtimmy
Caucasians are inherently more intelligent than African Americans

http://www.debate.org...
JaxsonRaine vs. Physik
In regards to possibilities for the creation of the universe, Deism logically precedes Theism.

http://www.debate.org...
aliasam1337 vs. Maikuru
Women have it easier then men.
Ren
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1/30/2012 2:29:52 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/29/2012 11:56:17 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 1/29/2012 11:51:56 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
This is a really good idea. I haven't been able to find any good debates to vote on recently, and a contest of this sort would be a great way to get more votes on good debates by encouraging voters to check them out.

This just ended. Pretty sure its gonna win.

http://www.debate.org...

Popculturepooka, all this time, you've literally had nothing to say about any of this?
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1/30/2012 2:34:26 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/30/2012 2:31:23 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:
I nominate these ones.

http://www.debate.org...

http://www.debate.org...

You're not allowed to nominate your own. Otherwise I'd have thrown in my Africa debate by now.
BlackVoid
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1/30/2012 2:35:57 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/30/2012 2:29:52 PM, Ren wrote:
At 1/29/2012 11:56:17 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 1/29/2012 11:51:56 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
This is a really good idea. I haven't been able to find any good debates to vote on recently, and a contest of this sort would be a great way to get more votes on good debates by encouraging voters to check them out.

This just ended. Pretty sure its gonna win.

http://www.debate.org...

Popculturepooka, all this time, you've literally had nothing to say about any of this?

I mostly nominated it because of the background and all the drama behind it. From what I've read so far its also an intense debate. Yeah, the subject matter is controversial, but...thats the point of debate.
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1/30/2012 2:35:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/30/2012 2:34:26 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 1/30/2012 2:31:23 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:
I nominate these ones.

http://www.debate.org...

http://www.debate.org...

You're not allowed to nominate your own. Otherwise I'd have thrown in my Africa debate by now.

"Nominating your own debates is discouraged (if no one else thought of it, it probably should not be a candidate) but permitted."

Read first post.
BlackVoid
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1/30/2012 2:36:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/30/2012 2:35:58 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:
At 1/30/2012 2:34:26 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 1/30/2012 2:31:23 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:
I nominate these ones.

http://www.debate.org...

http://www.debate.org...

You're not allowed to nominate your own. Otherwise I'd have thrown in my Africa debate by now.

"Nominating your own debates is discouraged (if no one else thought of it, it probably should not be a candidate) but permitted."

Read first post.

Ok then.
000ike
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1/30/2012 2:38:05 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/30/2012 2:35:58 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:
At 1/30/2012 2:34:26 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 1/30/2012 2:31:23 PM, Hardcore.Pwnography wrote:
I nominate these ones.

http://www.debate.org...

http://www.debate.org...

You're not allowed to nominate your own. Otherwise I'd have thrown in my Africa debate by now.

"Nominating your own debates is discouraged (if no one else thought of it, it probably should not be a candidate) but permitted."

Read first post.

No, that was a pretty good debate topic, even though I never got around to reading the arguments :p, and the results were extremely close. I would nominate it if I hadn't already picked one.
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Ren
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1/30/2012 2:45:41 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/30/2012 2:35:57 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 1/30/2012 2:29:52 PM, Ren wrote:
At 1/29/2012 11:56:17 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 1/29/2012 11:51:56 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
This is a really good idea. I haven't been able to find any good debates to vote on recently, and a contest of this sort would be a great way to get more votes on good debates by encouraging voters to check them out.

This just ended. Pretty sure its gonna win.

http://www.debate.org...

Popculturepooka, all this time, you've literally had nothing to say about any of this?

I mostly nominated it because of the background and all the drama behind it. From what I've read so far its also an intense debate. Yeah, the subject matter is controversial, but...thats the point of debate.

1. It is the third time he is having such a debate.

2. 000ike made it ridiculously, irrefutably clear that IQ is not genetically based on "race," (which is impossible to prove, because scientifically, it is not a biological distinction). It is arguably that he did not refute every one of Jimtimmy's points, but as Pro, the burden of proof was in Jimtimmy. Therefore, with any shadow of doubt, which was conceded by everyone who commented/voted, then Jimtimmy should be losing.

3. Reasons for voting decision: counter VB royal.

000ikejimtimmyTied
Agreed with before the debate:--0 points
Agreed with after the debate:--0 points
Who had better conduct:--1 point
Had better spelling and grammar:--1 point
Made more convincing arguments:--3 points
Used the most reliable sources:--2 points
Total points awarded:50
Reasons for voting decision: Pro did not address the immigrant argument effectively, and mainly depended on Wikipedia for sources. (not a vote bomb?)

Here's another vote:

Reasons for voting decision: there were many good points brought up that both sides argued for/against equally except for the argument regarding how poverty affects intelligence. That argument revealed that since more blacks live in poverty, blacks are less intelligent on average to whites.

>:O

Reasons for voting decision: 5:2 to Pro. Con dropped multiple critical arguments presented by Pro. Detailed analysis in comments.

False reasoning, as shown above.

Reasons for voting decision: Good debate. Con should not concede arguments (even if he agrees - this is a debate!) and not post text-images.

That's a reason for a vote?!?!?!

Reasons for voting decision: My reasons lie within my vote.

This debate, as so many debates on this site, was basura.

A complete racist pieces of shtt.
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1/30/2012 2:51:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
So the debate has been done before, you think Ike won, and the votes are low-quality. How does that warrant it not being a good debate? Maybe we just have different criteria for determining one.
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1/30/2012 2:52:10 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/30/2012 2:51:11 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
So the debate has been done before, you think Ike won, and the votes are low-quality. How does that warrant it not being a good debate? Maybe we just have different criteria for determining one.

Lmfao.

Yeah. Your criteria is that you just feel like attaching the word "good" next to it because it looks good on your post, I guess. xD
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1/30/2012 2:56:56 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/30/2012 2:52:10 PM, Ren wrote:
At 1/30/2012 2:51:11 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
So the debate has been done before, you think Ike won, and the votes are low-quality. How does that warrant it not being a good debate? Maybe we just have different criteria for determining one.

Lmfao.

Yeah. Your criteria is that you just feel like attaching the word "good" next to it because it looks good on your post, I guess. xD

I'm just asking you why you dont think the debatewas good. Not sure why you responded with a personal insult, but whatever floats your boat. Do you have an answer?
Double_R
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1/30/2012 2:58:28 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Updated nominee list:

http://www.debate.org...
000ike vs. jimtimmy
Caucasians are inherently more intelligent than African Americans

http://www.debate.org...
JaxsonRaine vs. Physik
In regards to possibilities for the creation of the universe, Deism logically precedes Theism.

http://www.debate.org...
aliasam1337 vs. Maikuru
Women have it easier then men.

http://www.debate.org...
Hardcore.Pwnography vs. 16kadams
The End of the World

http://www.debate.org...
Hardcore.Pwnography vs. socialpinko
Resolved: We would depower all superhumans.

http://www.debate.org...
DanT vs. Double_R
RESOLVED: The phrase "Equal Opportunity" refers to probability, not possibility.
Ren
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1/30/2012 3:02:03 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/30/2012 2:56:56 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 1/30/2012 2:52:10 PM, Ren wrote:
At 1/30/2012 2:51:11 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
So the debate has been done before, you think Ike won, and the votes are low-quality. How does that warrant it not being a good debate? Maybe we just have different criteria for determining one.

Lmfao.

Yeah. Your criteria is that you just feel like attaching the word "good" next to it because it looks good on your post, I guess. xD

I'm just asking you why you dont think the debatewas good. Not sure why you responded with a personal insult, but whatever floats your boat. Do you have an answer?

LOL, what did I write that insulted you?

The reasons I presented together approached the entirety of what a debate is comprised.

I'm sorry that I didn't go into detail about how trite, overdone, anachronistic, and hackneyed the arguments were. I simply indicated that it is the third such fail.
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1/30/2012 3:14:30 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/30/2012 2:29:52 PM, Ren wrote:
At 1/29/2012 11:56:17 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 1/29/2012 11:51:56 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
This is a really good idea. I haven't been able to find any good debates to vote on recently, and a contest of this sort would be a great way to get more votes on good debates by encouraging voters to check them out.

This just ended. Pretty sure its gonna win.

http://www.debate.org...


Popculturepooka, all this time, you've literally had nothing to say about any of this?

I consider it a dumb topic.
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1/30/2012 3:34:44 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 1/30/2012 3:14:30 PM, popculturepooka wrote:
At 1/30/2012 2:29:52 PM, Ren wrote:
At 1/29/2012 11:56:17 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 1/29/2012 11:51:56 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
This is a really good idea. I haven't been able to find any good debates to vote on recently, and a contest of this sort would be a great way to get more votes on good debates by encouraging voters to check them out.

This just ended. Pretty sure its gonna win.

http://www.debate.org...




Popculturepooka, all this time, you've literally had nothing to say about any of this?

I consider it a dumb topic.

It's the only topic left here.

Why don't you post? :(
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1/30/2012 4:25:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
U.S. should conquer Africa, me Vs. Blackvoid:

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