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2/25/2012 1:32:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Just doing this out of curiosity, do people on DDO support extending the term of the president from 6 months up to a year, or keeping it the same?

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2/25/2012 1:33:59 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
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2/25/2012 1:38:05 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I think 7 months is the appropriate term length.
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2/25/2012 1:43:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/25/2012 1:38:05 PM, Reasoning wrote:
I think 7 months is the appropriate term length.

Eh. More like two Pi months + the average period length of the DDO females/average number of times that users with O's in their name say dissimilitude per month.
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2/25/2012 1:44:46 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/25/2012 1:36:09 PM, Thaddeus wrote:
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2/25/2012 1:48:23 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Supports extending terms to a year
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2/25/2012 2:22:01 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/25/2012 1:48:23 PM, OberHerr wrote:
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2/25/2012 2:22:41 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Poll answered.
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2/25/2012 2:25:24 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Supports extending terms to a year
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2/25/2012 2:40:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Well, I was going to urge the site to consider a one year term for the President, starting at the end of my term. I would put a caveat with that, where at any time a President can be recalled for any reason where the site has a majority or perhaps a set number in agreement of the recall.

I also haven't figured what should be done with mod powers. I am quite hesitant to have the two combined, and am unsure how to approach the whole thing with Juggle. It needs to be understood that Juggle chose me as a mod not because I was president, although the two together when properly managed is ideal.

I don't think everyone understands the gravity of being a mod, nor should it be treated so lightly. The same can be said of being a president, but the worst case scenario of that is the position goes back to being a popularity contest.
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2/25/2012 2:45:27 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/25/2012 2:25:24 PM, 1dustpelt wrote:
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2/25/2012 2:48:57 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/25/2012 2:40:42 PM, innomen wrote:
Well, I was going to urge the site to consider a one year term for the President, starting at the end of my term. I would put a caveat with that, where at any time a President can be recalled for any reason where the site has a majority or perhaps a set number in agreement of the recall.

I also haven't figured what should be done with mod powers. I am quite hesitant to have the two combined, and am unsure how to approach the whole thing with Juggle. It needs to be understood that Juggle chose me as a mod not because I was president, although the two together when properly managed is ideal.

I don't think everyone understands the gravity of being a mod, nor should it be treated so lightly. The same can be said of being a president, but the worst case scenario of that is the position goes back to being a popularity contest.

What is the exact role of a president?
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2/25/2012 4:02:30 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/25/2012 2:48:57 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 2/25/2012 2:40:42 PM, innomen wrote:
Well, I was going to urge the site to consider a one year term for the President, starting at the end of my term. I would put a caveat with that, where at any time a President can be recalled for any reason where the site has a majority or perhaps a set number in agreement of the recall.

I also haven't figured what should be done with mod powers. I am quite hesitant to have the two combined, and am unsure how to approach the whole thing with Juggle. It needs to be understood that Juggle chose me as a mod not because I was president, although the two together when properly managed is ideal.

I don't think everyone understands the gravity of being a mod, nor should it be treated so lightly. The same can be said of being a president, but the worst case scenario of that is the position goes back to being a popularity contest.


What is the exact role of a president?

That's actually a good question. Much of it has been a job of service, doing maintenance, and resolving conflict. For me there has been a lot of interaction with Juggle that has been a component of being both president and Mod. I read someone say that I haven't been very available, that's not true at all, I just haven't been active in the forums and in debate. I am in continuous communication with my inner circle, and am very fastidious in my PM's and monitoring the reports. I am not active overtly in the site, but behind the scenes I'm usually pretty busy with stuff.
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2/25/2012 4:03:52 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/25/2012 4:02:30 PM, innomen wrote:
At 2/25/2012 2:48:57 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 2/25/2012 2:40:42 PM, innomen wrote:
Well, I was going to urge the site to consider a one year term for the President, starting at the end of my term. I would put a caveat with that, where at any time a President can be recalled for any reason where the site has a majority or perhaps a set number in agreement of the recall.

I also haven't figured what should be done with mod powers. I am quite hesitant to have the two combined, and am unsure how to approach the whole thing with Juggle. It needs to be understood that Juggle chose me as a mod not because I was president, although the two together when properly managed is ideal.

I don't think everyone understands the gravity of being a mod, nor should it be treated so lightly. The same can be said of being a president, but the worst case scenario of that is the position goes back to being a popularity contest.


What is the exact role of a president?

That's actually a good question. Much of it has been a job of service, doing maintenance, and resolving conflict. For me there has been a lot of interaction with Juggle that has been a component of being both president and Mod. I read someone say that I haven't been very available, that's not true at all, I just haven't been active in the forums and in debate. I am in continuous communication with my inner circle, and am very fastidious in my PM's and monitoring the reports. I am not active overtly in the site, but behind the scenes I'm usually pretty busy with stuff.

You certainly seem available to me.

That's interesting though.
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2/25/2012 4:09:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/25/2012 2:25:24 PM, 1dustpelt wrote:
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2/25/2012 4:14:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Keeping it a six month term means making it more of a popularity contest.

If it revolves quickly from one person to the next every 6 months, I can guarantee you that it will be a much less seriously taken position. You might as well elect Cosmic for all it matters.

I have given this a lot of thought, and I can tell you that there is no point in connecting mod to president if it's 6 months.
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2/25/2012 4:20:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/25/2012 4:09:00 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:
At 2/25/2012 2:25:24 PM, 1dustpelt wrote:
Supports extending terms to a year
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Supports keeping length of term at 6 months
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4 OberHerr
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7 Stephen_Hawkins
8 KeytarHero
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2/25/2012 6:44:44 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/25/2012 4:20:00 PM, KeytarHero wrote:
At 2/25/2012 4:09:00 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:
At 2/25/2012 2:25:24 PM, 1dustpelt wrote:
Supports extending terms to a year
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7 Stephen_Hawkins
8 KeytarHero

6 months really isn't enough time for a president to properly manage the role. I can't think of any serious roles in the real world that last only 6 months. Even high school presidents get a year. There should be at least a 1 month training program for the past president to train the former president. Even then, one can't learn everything there is to be as president. It's more of an art rather then a precise science.
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2/25/2012 6:50:30 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/25/2012 4:14:07 PM, innomen wrote:
Keeping it a six month term means making it more of a popularity contest.

It feels like the last election was yesterday....
Kevin24018 : "He's just so mean it makes me want to ball up my fists and stamp on the ground"
Geogeer: "Nobody is dumb enough to become my protege."

7/14/16 = The Presidency Dies

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2/25/2012 6:53:19 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
let me amend the survey a tweak,

Pro extending the terms to more than 6 months
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Con extending the terms to more than 6 months
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Kevin24018 : "He's just so mean it makes me want to ball up my fists and stamp on the ground"
Geogeer: "Nobody is dumb enough to become my protege."

7/14/16 = The Presidency Dies

DDO: THE MOVIE = http://www.debate.org...
http://www.debate.org...

VP of DDO from Dec 14th 2014 to Jan 1st 2015
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2/25/2012 7:04:28 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/25/2012 6:53:19 PM, imabench wrote:
let me amend the survey a tweak,

Pro extending the terms to more than 6 months
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2/25/2012 7:10:20 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Pro extending the terms to more than 6 months
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This prevents people from running repeatedly just to get their "turn" to ban people.
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2/25/2012 7:12:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/25/2012 7:10:20 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Pro extending the terms to more than 6 months
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This prevents people from running repeatedly just to get their "turn" to ban people.
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2/25/2012 7:20:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Pro extending the terms to more than 6 months
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2/25/2012 7:21:47 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/25/2012 7:20:13 PM, 000ike wrote:
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2/26/2012 3:38:47 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
bumpity bump bump
Kevin24018 : "He's just so mean it makes me want to ball up my fists and stamp on the ground"
Geogeer: "Nobody is dumb enough to become my protege."

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2/26/2012 3:43:09 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 2/25/2012 7:20:13 PM, 000ike wrote:
Pro extending the terms to more than 6 months
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Con extending the terms to more than 6 months
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another instance of JT/16k representing the 'silent majority'?
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