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Who has the burden of proof?

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3/11/2012 11:37:03 AM
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Some people say the instigator has the burden of proof, and some say Pro does. Who does?
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3/11/2012 11:46:15 AM
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A lot of it depends on the resolution. The BOP generally lies on whoever advocates a change in the status quo, but for debates where no change is made (like debates about morals or something similar) the BOP is generally shared.

In formal debate the affirmative has the burden of proof, because they're the one making a claim.
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3/11/2012 12:12:24 PM
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If someone proposes something, then they hold the proof. This works for every claim as well as the resolution.
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3/11/2012 1:18:02 PM
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At 3/11/2012 12:12:24 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:
If someone proposes something, then they hold the proof. This works for every claim as well as the resolution.

This - If someone proposes something positive or negative (i.e., not neutral) then they hold the burden. This applies whether they are Pro or Con, though anyone who instigates a debate as Con ought to consider re-wording the resolution so that they can argue from the Pro position. It's just easier that way.
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3/11/2012 1:33:33 PM
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At 3/11/2012 1:18:02 PM, Danielle wrote:
At 3/11/2012 12:12:24 PM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:
If someone proposes something, then they hold the proof. This works for every claim as well as the resolution.

This - If someone proposes something positive or negative (i.e., not neutral) then they hold the burden. This applies whether they are Pro or Con, though anyone who instigates a debate as Con ought to consider re-wording the resolution so that they can argue from the Pro position. It's just easier that way.

well...

if negative is "X does not exist" then BoP lies on the person affirming that statement. If the statement is "X exists" and someone is CON, then the BoP is on PRO.
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3/11/2012 1:35:37 PM
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At 3/11/2012 11:37:03 AM, 1dustpelt wrote:
Some people say the instigator has the burden of proof, and some say Pro does. Who does?

It's funny you ask. I am debating somebody about this in the common section of a debate right now.

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