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Vote-Bombing by the Numbers

Robert_Santurri
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10/25/2008 4:47:29 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
(If you want to see my opinion, look below all the debates)

List of debates vote-bombed below:
Kleptin's:
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Note: Those are just the obvious debates in which Kleptin's opponent forfeited a round or two. That or was highly obvious that the opponent lost. Total Number: 23 but obviously more considering how much Kleptin's win ratio has changed.

Logical-Master Debates:
http://www.debate.org...
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Note: Those are just the obvious debates in which LM opponent forfeited a round or two. That or was highly obvious that the opponent lost. Total Number: 21 but obviously more considering how much LM's win ratio has changed.

Brittwaller's debates:
http://www.debate.org...
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Note: Those are just the obvious debates in which Britt opponent forfeited a round or two. That or was highly obvious that the opponent lost. Total Number: 11 but obviously more considering how much Britt win ratio has changed.

Scissorhands:
Use to be 8-3 at the very least:
And now: http://www.debate.org...

Rezz: Originally was 13-0-1
Now: http://www.debate.org... (9-2-3)

And of course Sadolite who has benefited from Josh's Vote bombing spree:
http://www.debate.org...
From 0-26 to this: http://www.debate.org... (27-1)

Conclusion:
Just including the obvious debates, the count is around 90 debates affected. This doesn't include the ones that were vote-bombed but both sides made arguments. This also does not include the amount of work that some people on this website have taken part in while trying to fix these injustices.

I hope the moderators come out with a solution soon. If not, the validity of the debates on debate.org along with the "why bother" factor will severely decrease. As in, why debate something when certain people are just going to make sure you lose before the debate even occurs? Now, I am not saying that vote-bombing is only being done against and for one certain group on here but that has been the case thus far with Josh.

A good example is this: http://www.debate.org...
Look at my last comment I made.

In closing, here's hoping a solution comes soon because something has to give. And in the end it will be either the people who debate here or vote bombers in general; not just Josh stopping/being stopped.
"We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home."
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brittwaller
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10/26/2008 12:45:22 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
Yeah, you can pretty much add all of my debates to the list. I'm down to two wins and a 7.14 win percentage.
Don't I take care of them all?
Robert_Santurri
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10/26/2008 12:56:43 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
At 10/26/2008 12:45:22 PM, brittwaller wrote:
Yeah, you can pretty much add all of my debates to the list. I'm down to two wins and a 7.14 win percentage.

Jeez, that's crazy.

Do you have a chance to lose the last two?
"We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home."
-- Edward R. Murrow

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference."
-- Robert Frost
Robert_Santurri
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10/26/2008 12:58:01 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
And notice how a great portion of your ties are with Kleptin.
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I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference."
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10/26/2008 4:11:41 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
Ok...I just reviewed over 3500 records and here's what I found:

There are a ton of debates that were affected by multiple accounts. These accounts have been closed, and we're working to keep new ones closed as they come in. Even though these accounts were closed, the votes they placed are still active because the system to adjust the votes when a bad account is found...has not been built yet. We'll try and build it this week, but it probably won't get done until early/mid November because it's a very complicated process to remove a vote and update all of the related data. Once the system is built, we'll go back and adjust all of the voting for those debates affected by the bad accounts, and everyone's ranking will be adjusted in the process.
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10/26/2008 4:14:36 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
At 10/26/2008 4:11:41 PM, Forum Moderator wrote:
Ok...I just reviewed over 3500 records and here's what I found:

There are a ton of debates that were affected by multiple accounts. These accounts have been closed, and we're working to keep new ones closed as they come in. Even though these accounts were closed, the votes they placed are still active because the system to adjust the votes when a bad account is found...has not been built yet. We'll try and build it this week, but it probably won't get done until early/mid November because it's a very complicated process to remove a vote and update all of the related data. Once the system is built, we'll go back and adjust all of the voting for those debates affected by the bad accounts, and everyone's ranking will be adjusted in the process.

So basically everything is going to be screwed up until Mid November?
"We cannot defend freedom abroad by deserting it at home."
-- Edward R. Murrow

"Two roads diverged in a wood, and I—
I took the one less traveled by,
And that has made all the difference."
-- Robert Frost
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10/26/2008 4:17:53 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
Remember that the moderators do not have a lot of free time. Be patient and the problem with Josh will finally be fixed. I expect that Josh will be gone by December and have no effect on debate.org by then, right moderator?
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10/26/2008 4:19:00 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
Wow Dnick, i'd never guess you were a fake account
I rock peas on my head, but don't call me a peahead, bees on my head but dont call me a beehead, bruce lees on my head but dont call me a lee head...
I hang out with an apple who loves self loathing....
Its my show I'm andy milonakis.
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10/26/2008 4:19:50 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
At 10/26/2008 4:17:53 PM, Dnick94 wrote:
Remember that the moderator

Not moderaters
I rock peas on my head, but don't call me a peahead, bees on my head but dont call me a beehead, bruce lees on my head but dont call me a lee head...
I hang out with an apple who loves self loathing....
Its my show I'm andy milonakis.
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10/26/2008 4:19:58 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
At 10/26/2008 4:19:00 PM, scissorhands7 wrote:
Wow Dnick, i'd never guess you were a fake account

Because I'm not.
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10/26/2008 4:23:27 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
she's M.I.A.
I rock peas on my head, but don't call me a peahead, bees on my head but dont call me a beehead, bruce lees on my head but dont call me a lee head...
I hang out with an apple who loves self loathing....
Its my show I'm andy milonakis.
Dnick94
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10/26/2008 4:25:23 PM
Posted: 8 years ago
Who just reported Lightcirro? I guess the mods aren't giving him a second chance.
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