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jimtimmy
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4/16/2012 12:28:25 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
No, I am not coming back to DDO. I just feel that I owe everyone an explanation for my departure. First, let me say, that I am not leaving because of any particular member or members. It was nothing that anybody said or anything of that sort.

In fact, as some of you might have noticed, I have not been as active in recent weeks. This is largely because I am not as interested in DDO as I used to be.

But, of course, there are other reasons I am leaving DDO. I will admit that I once held views that many on this website found offensive and hateful. Not only did I hold those views, but I wore them on my sleeve. I don't think people were totally fair to me during this time, but I understand that I deserved most of that.

To be clear, I abandoned those views a good while back. I didn't make a big deal of this shift because I was hoping to simply transition away from them. However, my past stuck with me. I could not drop the label of "racist".

Another reason I am leaving is that I have been utterly mean to many members that were nothing but nice to me. Other members returned the meanness, but that does not justify my own immature behavior.

Furthermore, in order to try to gain back sympathy, I made up stories about who I am in order to get pity. That is somewhat shameful. Yes, it is true that I have OCD and a stutter, but I actually am quite socially adept. Yes, I do prefer to be on my own, but that is by choice. I am actually not all that bad with the ladies. And, no, I have never been bullied. So, I also apologize for that.

My behavior on this site was immature and often times shameful. To be sure, many of the things I pulled while on DDO were done in the heat of the moment, but that does not excuse anything.

On top of all of this, I spouted crazy theories about a "DDO Elite". I knew this was absurd. But, I continued to market it for both comedic effect and to, hopefully, gain some support.

And, I do want to have a future. And, while I don't think this website will do harm to any career choice I may follow, I am not willing to risk it.

In conclusion, I apologize for all of my behavior while on DDO. When I came to this website, I happened to be going through a very tough time. I became attracted to odd political views that came off as hateful to many. This is what happens.

I really do hope that I will not in DDO history as hated as I currently am. But, if I do, that is life.

I also hope that everyone reading this realizes that I am just a kid. I am a stupid, inconsistent, angry, mean, dishonest kid. Perhaps one day I will mature beyond this. However, that day is not yet upon us. So, I bid DDO farewell.

I'll see you all on the other side.
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imabench
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4/16/2012 12:58:38 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/16/2012 12:28:25 AM, jimtimmy wrote:

On top of all of this, I spouted crazy theories about a "DDO Elite". I knew this was absurd. But, I continued to market it for both comedic effect and to, hopefully, gain some support.
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4/16/2012 1:02:42 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Sig'd
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4/16/2012 1:05:27 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/16/2012 1:02:42 AM, imabench wrote:
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Can't you just let it go now?
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4/16/2012 1:12:17 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/16/2012 1:05:27 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/16/2012 1:02:42 AM, imabench wrote:
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Can't you just let it go now?

No, because some dummies like Reasoning continue to pretend that it is valid.
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4/16/2012 1:16:04 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/16/2012 1:12:17 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/16/2012 1:05:27 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/16/2012 1:02:42 AM, imabench wrote:
Sig'd

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Can't you just let it go now?

No, because some dummies like Reasoning continue to pretend that it is valid.

when did reasoning ever say that there was an elitist organization?
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4/16/2012 1:20:37 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/16/2012 1:16:04 AM, darkkermit wrote:
At 4/16/2012 1:12:17 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/16/2012 1:05:27 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/16/2012 1:02:42 AM, imabench wrote:
Sig'd

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Can't you just let it go now?

No, because some dummies like Reasoning continue to pretend that it is valid.


when did reasoning ever say that there was an elitist organization?

i remember it, he claimed that 000ike and royal are a part of it
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imabench
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4/16/2012 1:21:59 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/16/2012 1:16:04 AM, darkkermit wrote:
At 4/16/2012 1:12:17 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/16/2012 1:05:27 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/16/2012 1:02:42 AM, imabench wrote:
Sig'd

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Can't you just let it go now?

No, because some dummies like Reasoning continue to pretend that it is valid.


when did reasoning ever say that there was an elitist organization?

found it:
http://www.debate.org...
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darkkermit
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4/16/2012 1:22:03 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/16/2012 1:20:37 AM, imabench wrote:
At 4/16/2012 1:16:04 AM, darkkermit wrote:
At 4/16/2012 1:12:17 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/16/2012 1:05:27 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/16/2012 1:02:42 AM, imabench wrote:
Sig'd

....

Can't you just let it go now?

No, because some dummies like Reasoning continue to pretend that it is valid.


when did reasoning ever say that there was an elitist organization?

i remember it, he claimed that 000ike and royal are a part of it

looking through it, damn your right. WTF?
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4/16/2012 1:23:20 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
who else besides 16kadams actually bought into the ridiculous DDO elite idea?
Kevin24018 : "He's just so mean it makes me want to ball up my fists and stamp on the ground"

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Mestari
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4/16/2012 4:21:13 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/16/2012 1:23:20 AM, imabench wrote:
who else besides 16kadams actually bought into the ridiculous DDO elite idea?

WAIT... You mean to say there ISN'T a DDO elite?
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TUF
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4/16/2012 5:19:30 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Don't really know a ton about Jimtimmy from my time here on DDO, mostly just affiliate myself with the mafia players. But I have noticed some drama from him in the forums. never got involved in it, as that is the last thing I want, is drama.

But I have gained some respect for the guy. It takes a lot to get up there and say your sorry to someone, especially if your as prideful as I am, and I have had to do that a few times lately.

But anyways, Good job Jimtimmy. Maybe come back as a different alias, and work towards making friends with those that you feel like to your unnecesarily mean to. But that can wait, I understand your reasons for leaving.

I myself spend a lot of time here, that I could be doing more productive things with that time, but get distracted, and addicted to DDO like a drug.

Very detrimental if you ask me.

Anyways, I really hope you have a great life, live well and prosper. Maybe we'll see you back here one day a changed man. I certainly have changed in my time here.

I used to a be a right winged, to the wall LDS conservative kid, whose ignorance and pride was rather shameful. I feel DDO and it's members have influenced me a lot though, in my time on and off the site, and I feel I have grown from that. It could be that I am more mature than when I first joined though.

Either way, it's seems like you learned or took something beneficial about this site for yourself, and that is a good thing. I wish you well in life.
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4/16/2012 7:52:24 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/16/2012 1:23:20 AM, imabench wrote:
who else besides 16kadams actually bought into the ridiculous DDO elite idea?

How do you know it wasn't a political stunt ;D
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4/16/2012 8:04:35 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I still think he should stay, I liked Jim.
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4/16/2012 8:11:00 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/16/2012 7:52:24 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 4/16/2012 1:23:20 AM, imabench wrote:
who else besides 16kadams actually bought into the ridiculous DDO elite idea?

How do you know it wasn't a political stunt ;D

Ok, so you specifically lied to DDO Voters in an attempt to influence them to support you? That is pretty unethical.
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4/16/2012 8:33:58 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/16/2012 7:52:24 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 4/16/2012 1:23:20 AM, imabench wrote:
who else besides 16kadams actually bought into the ridiculous DDO elite idea?

How do you know it wasn't a political stunt ;D

Well lets see, jimtimmy basically apologized for his behavior and how he treated people on DDO which is an admirable and ballsy thing to do, something i can even respect him for doing since its hard for anyone to admit they were making something up..... But you now, a person who fiercely fought for and supported this made up fantasy, now claim that Jimtimmy is doing it to support your campaign rather than admit that he was full of it.....

16k, jimtimmy admitting he lied about all the stuff you blindly supported has done more damage to your credibility then the fact that you actually bought into all that made up stuff in the first place.... And saying hes doing it to somehow help you only makes you look a lot more ridiculous and misguided
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tulle
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4/16/2012 8:50:23 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I knew there was a reason I've always said I liked you, Jim. Despite your views, unlike Reasoning, you were likable. If you hadn't come along Reasoning would never have been exposed for the racist that he is so thanks.

I did notice that you haven't been that active in the forums, and I'm glad that it wasn't because of something I said. I understand how easy it is to come on here with a certain persona that is completely unlike you in real life, only to make connections on here and have your real life get entangled with that persona and then feel ashamed of past things you've said or believed.

So if it's any consolation, I don't hate you and I won't remember you negatively.
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4/16/2012 9:03:06 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Cool.

Glad you owned up to your mistakes.

You have more courage than a good deal of people in the world, and thats no small thing.
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4/16/2012 9:07:50 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/16/2012 1:12:17 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/16/2012 1:05:27 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/16/2012 1:02:42 AM, imabench wrote:
Sig'd

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Can't you just let it go now?

No, because some dummies like Reasoning continue to pretend that it is valid.

For someone who draws so much attention to their "trolling", you aren't that good at spotting it. Reasoning is a master. We are mere apprentices.
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4/16/2012 9:58:08 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
If budweiser did apologies...
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4/16/2012 10:20:46 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/16/2012 9:03:06 AM, OberHerr wrote:
Cool.

Glad you owned up to your mistakes.

You have more courage than a good deal of people in the world, and thats no small thing.

I do agree with this, it takes balls to do what he did and i do respect him a lot for doing this now
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4/16/2012 10:24:24 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/16/2012 10:20:46 AM, imabench wrote:
At 4/16/2012 9:03:06 AM, OberHerr wrote:
Cool.

Glad you owned up to your mistakes.

You have more courage than a good deal of people in the world, and thats no small thing.

I do agree with this, it takes balls to do what he did and i do respect him a lot for doing this now

+1
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4/16/2012 11:37:45 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/16/2012 8:11:00 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/16/2012 7:52:24 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 4/16/2012 1:23:20 AM, imabench wrote:
who else besides 16kadams actually bought into the ridiculous DDO elite idea?

How do you know it wasn't a political stunt ;D

Ok, so you specifically lied to DDO Voters in an attempt to influence them to support you? That is pretty unethical.

You're right. I think adams might make a good politicain after all :P
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4/16/2012 12:19:20 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/16/2012 10:20:46 AM, imabench wrote:
At 4/16/2012 9:03:06 AM, OberHerr wrote:
Cool.

Glad you owned up to your mistakes.

You have more courage than a good deal of people in the world, and thats no small thing.

I do agree with this, it takes balls to do what he did and i do respect him a lot for doing this now

Indeed.
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4/16/2012 2:00:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/16/2012 9:07:50 AM, Thaddeus wrote:
At 4/16/2012 1:12:17 AM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 4/16/2012 1:05:27 AM, phantom wrote:
At 4/16/2012 1:02:42 AM, imabench wrote:
Sig'd

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Can't you just let it go now?

No, because some dummies like Reasoning continue to pretend that it is valid.

For someone who draws so much attention to their "trolling", you aren't that good at spotting it. Reasoning is a master. We are mere apprentices.

I try to tell her, but she doesn't listen
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4/16/2012 2:11:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Reasoning is not trolling. I've seen comments he's posted to FB on my homepage because we have mutual friends and that is what he believes.
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