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Koopin
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4/27/2012 9:18:54 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
So Juggle is currently fine with updating the list (or so they say.) However their excuse is they don't update it because members cannot decide what to put on/take off. We can't have a ton of new add ons. We all talk about it, let's do something. I will be trying to get this list together, and will email it to juggle.

This is how it will work.
This is stage 1. Everyone will suggest a "big issue" if they have an idea. IT MUST BE IN BOLD. Same with taking big issues out.
On April 30th, I will make a thread with all the suggestions. People will vote yay or nay. The ones with the top votes will go through.

No arguing in this thread. Also, please none of the "well who gave you the power" stuff. This has been talked about for far to long. I have already talked with innomen. He said that he will ban anyone who starts arguing, and I can have their password (just kidding.)
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4/27/2012 9:20:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Auditing the fed
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OberHerr
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4/27/2012 9:21:24 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Removal of the no longer applicable ones!
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Koopin
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4/27/2012 9:23:17 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Remove:

Bush
Campaign Finance Reform
Flag Burning
Missile Defense System
NAFTA
National Retail Sales Tax
PETA
President George W. Bush
Tobacco Rights
World Trade Organization
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Contra
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4/27/2012 9:24:04 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/27/2012 9:23:17 PM, Koopin wrote:
Remove:

Bush
Campaign Finance Reform
Flag Burning
Missile Defense System
NAFTA
National Retail Sales Tax
PETA
President George W. Bush
Tobacco Rights
World Trade Organization


I agree, but keep Campaign Finance reform and keep the missle defense system (or at least the first one because of Citizens United)
"The solution [for Republicans] is to admit that Bush was a bad president, stop this racist homophobic stuff, stop trying to give most of the tax cuts to the rich, propose a real alternative to Obamacare that actually works, and propose smart free market solutions to our economic problems." - Distraff

"Americans are better off in a dynamic, free-enterprise-based economy that fosters economic growth, opportunity and upward mobility." - Paul Ryan
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4/27/2012 9:24:09 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/27/2012 9:21:24 PM, OberHerr wrote:
Removal of the no longer applicable ones!

Specifically War in Afghanistan, Iraq, Bush.
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Apollo.11
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4/27/2012 9:24:17 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/27/2012 9:23:17 PM, Koopin wrote:
Remove:

Bush
keep
Campaign Finance Reform
Flag Burning
keep
Missile Defense System
NAFTA
National Retail Sales Tax
PETA
President George W. Bush
keep
Tobacco Rights
World Trade Organization
Sapere Aude!
OberHerr
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4/27/2012 9:25:50 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/27/2012 9:24:17 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
At 4/27/2012 9:23:17 PM, Koopin wrote:
Remove:

Bush
keep

Why?

How does it apply?
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Apollo.11
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4/27/2012 9:26:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Remove:

Campaign Finance Reform
Missile Defense System
NAFTA
National Retail Sales Tax
PETA
Tobacco Rights
World Trade Organization
Estate Tax
War in Iraq
Sapere Aude!
Koopin
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4/27/2012 9:26:40 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/27/2012 9:24:17 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
At 4/27/2012 9:23:17 PM, Koopin wrote:
Remove:

Bush
keep
Campaign Finance Reform
Flag Burning
keep
Missile Defense System
NAFTA
National Retail Sales Tax
PETA
President George W. Bush
keep
Tobacco Rights
World Trade Organization


We can't keep everything I just listed. Also, this isn't the voting thread. This comes April 30th 2012.
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4/27/2012 9:27:04 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/27/2012 9:26:15 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
Remove:

Campaign Finance Reform
Missile Defense System
NAFTA
National Retail Sales Tax
PETA
Tobacco Rights
World Trade Organization
Estate Tax
War in Iraq


Almost all of this is applicable to the world as it is now, and you want to keep bush?
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Apollo.11
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4/27/2012 9:27:21 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/27/2012 9:25:50 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 4/27/2012 9:24:17 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
At 4/27/2012 9:23:17 PM, Koopin wrote:
Remove:

Bush
keep

Why?

How does it apply?

To see who approved if his presidency. Even if he is no longer president.
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Contra
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4/27/2012 9:27:23 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Remove:

PETA
Patriotism (synonymous with USA mostly)
Bush
War in Iran

Add:

Obama
Free Trade
Capitalist Mixed Market Economy or just Capitalism
Torture
Renewable Energy (a priority instead supplementary energy)
"The solution [for Republicans] is to admit that Bush was a bad president, stop this racist homophobic stuff, stop trying to give most of the tax cuts to the rich, propose a real alternative to Obamacare that actually works, and propose smart free market solutions to our economic problems." - Distraff

"Americans are better off in a dynamic, free-enterprise-based economy that fosters economic growth, opportunity and upward mobility." - Paul Ryan
OberHerr
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4/27/2012 9:28:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Koopin, I think it would be best to not put the recomovables here, and just put them all up in the voting thread, since I think we have EVERY current BI covered...
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Apollo.11
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4/27/2012 9:28:48 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/27/2012 9:27:23 PM, Contra wrote:
Remove:

PETA
Patriotism (synonymous with USA mostly)
I disagree. I am pro-use but anti-patriotism.
Bush
War in Iran
This is an important issue

Add:


Obama
Free Trade
Capitalist Mixed Market Economy or just Capitalism
Torture
Renewable Energy (a priority instead supplementary energy)

I agree with your additions.
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Apollo.11
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4/27/2012 9:33:40 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/27/2012 9:32:26 PM, Koopin wrote:
What's the official term for the USA being the world police? Foreign intervention?

Interventionism.
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Koopin
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4/27/2012 9:35:32 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/27/2012 9:33:40 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
At 4/27/2012 9:32:26 PM, Koopin wrote:
What's the official term for the USA being the world police? Foreign intervention?

Interventionism.

Yeah, how do you guys feel about replacing one/some of the wars with this instead?
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4/27/2012 9:35:46 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
You know, if Romney wins the election then having Obama as an issue won't apply either. How about just, Current President?
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4/27/2012 9:36:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/27/2012 9:35:32 PM, Koopin wrote:
At 4/27/2012 9:33:40 PM, Apollo.11 wrote:
At 4/27/2012 9:32:26 PM, Koopin wrote:
What's the official term for the USA being the world police? Foreign intervention?

Interventionism.

Yeah, how do you guys feel about replacing one/some of the wars with this instead?

Yeah, replace Iraq/Afghanistan with Interventionism.
Contra
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4/27/2012 9:37:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/27/2012 9:35:46 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
You know, if Romney wins the election then having Obama as an issue won't apply either. How about just, Current President?

And replacing John McCain with Mitt Romney.

I agree Koopin with "Interventionism" replacing the overseas wars.
"The solution [for Republicans] is to admit that Bush was a bad president, stop this racist homophobic stuff, stop trying to give most of the tax cuts to the rich, propose a real alternative to Obamacare that actually works, and propose smart free market solutions to our economic problems." - Distraff

"Americans are better off in a dynamic, free-enterprise-based economy that fosters economic growth, opportunity and upward mobility." - Paul Ryan
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4/27/2012 9:39:39 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I would recommend taking Bush out (of the big issues, not in the gangster way lol). However, I would not recommend putting Obama in because once he's out of office, he will be obsolete in the big issues, too. So I would recommend adding in "current president."
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4/27/2012 9:40:08 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 4/27/2012 9:39:39 PM, KeytarHero wrote:
I would recommend taking Bush out (of the big issues, not in the gangster way lol). However, I would not recommend putting Obama in because once he's out of office, he will be obsolete in the big issues, too. So I would recommend adding in "current president."

This.
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OberHerr
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4/27/2012 9:41:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I like the current president and Internationalism ideas.

We should try to make it applicable to the current, not just to the times.
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4/27/2012 9:48:38 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
If it is "current president" people who haven't logged in in months or haven't change their view will skew the results.
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