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Voter Mobilization

Wnope
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5/2/2012 11:48:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Candidates, if you're wondering why 16k is doing better than you in polls, it's because while you're busy trying to convert new voters to join you, he is busy making sure people that support him vote. In the end, voter mobilization is much more effective and efficient than actually gaining new supporters.

Say DK has 160 supporters, 16k has 60 supports, and TV has 160. Let's say that without any mobilization, 20% of supporters will take the time to actually vote. With mobilization, you can get 60% of your supporters to vote.

DK would get 32 votes. TV would get 32 votes. 16k would get 36 votes.

16k would beat both candidates even if the candidates have more than 2x as many supporters.
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5/2/2012 11:50:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Similarly, the point of most mud flinging isn't really to change the opinion of someone who is already on one side. Instead, it is meant to DE-mobilize voters for the opposition to where their apathy towards the candidate overwhelms the urge to vote.
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5/2/2012 11:50:48 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Cept, 16adams in gonna drop out, or he is a liar.
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5/2/2012 11:51:34 PM
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we dont annoy our supporters to vote in a pre-election poll that holds no significance, we'll wait until the actual election.....
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5/2/2012 11:54:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
This is a general principle that applies to a vast majority of elections.

Consider also, that you still have to beat someone who may have equal support as you. That means you need to outmobilize them.
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5/2/2012 11:54:44 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/2/2012 11:51:34 PM, imabench wrote:
we dont annoy our supporters to vote in a pre-election poll that holds no significance, we'll wait until the actual election.....

Fair point, just noting since people have been wondering how 16 keeps winning.
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5/2/2012 11:55:16 PM
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At 5/2/2012 11:51:34 PM, imabench wrote:
we dont annoy our supporters to vote in a pre-election poll that holds no significance, we'll wait until the actual election.....

This.
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5/2/2012 11:57:54 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/2/2012 11:54:13 PM, Wnope wrote:
This is a general principle that applies to a vast majority of elections.

Consider also, that you still have to beat someone who may have equal support as you. That means you need to outmobilize them.

which we can do
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5/2/2012 11:57:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/2/2012 11:55:16 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 5/2/2012 11:51:34 PM, imabench wrote:
we dont annoy our supporters to vote in a pre-election poll that holds no significance, we'll wait until the actual election.....

This.

I was partially inspired by you writing "I find it very hard to believe that imabench and 16k are legitimately beating me by more than 300%." I thought you meant you didn't know why it was happening.
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5/3/2012 12:01:14 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/2/2012 11:57:58 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 5/2/2012 11:55:16 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 5/2/2012 11:51:34 PM, imabench wrote:
we dont annoy our supporters to vote in a pre-election poll that holds no significance, we'll wait until the actual election.....

This.

I was partially inspired by you writing "I find it very hard to believe that imabench and 16k are legitimately beating me by more than 300%." I thought you meant you didn't know why it was happening.

16k has been posting the link on everybody's wall, me and dark havent done anything to anyone, and we are STILL beating him ;D
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5/3/2012 1:50:43 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
If you play the voter Mobilization card, I'm playing the voter fatigue card.
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