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5/6/2012 7:00:38 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
These are the questions you should ask yourself when the next election comes about, and my position is passed on.

Why does this person want to be President?

Is it more about ego feeding than it is about the genuine concern for the site and the community?

Will this person serve and represent everyone on this site with impartiality and equality?

Will this person only surround themselves with like minded people and ignore, and perhaps exclude those who think differently or might be critical?

Do you believe that this person will be committed to the site, and understand that it is a responsibility that must be carried out through their term, not just surrounding the election itself.

Do you think that this person will contribute to the position of President, continuing to add relevance to the office, perhaps at the expense of their own ego?

I think everyone understands the direction I'm going with these questions. My greatest concern is that the position will go backward and will lose substantive relevance, so that it is merely a meaningless title, the result of a site wide popularity contest. Upon the end of my term I will issue a statement, a farewell address of sorts, where I will humbly offer suggestions to the next and future presidents, and the community as a whole.

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5/6/2012 7:48:05 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 7:00:38 AM, innomen wrote:
These are the questions you should ask yourself when the next election comes about, and my position is passed on.

Why does this person want to be President?

Is it more about ego feeding than it is about the genuine concern for the site and the community?

Will this person serve and represent everyone on this site with impartiality and equality?

Will this person only surround themselves with like minded people and ignore, and perhaps exclude those who think differently or might be critical?

Do you believe that this person will be committed to the site, and understand that it is a responsibility that must be carried out through their term, not just surrounding the election itself.

Do you think that this person will contribute to the position of President, continuing to add relevance to the office, perhaps at the expense of their own ego?

I think everyone understands the direction I'm going with these questions. My greatest concern is that the position will go backward and will lose substantive relevance, so that it is merely a meaningless title, the result of a site wide popularity contest. Upon the end of my term I will issue a statement, a farewell address of sorts, where I will humbly offer suggestions to the next and future presidents, and the community as a whole.

-innomen

I'd add "Are these ideas practically feasible, or even explained?" and "Which policies are likely to be followed through".
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5/6/2012 12:40:14 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 7:48:05 AM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:
At 5/6/2012 7:00:38 AM, innomen wrote:
These are the questions you should ask yourself when the next election comes about, and my position is passed on.

Why does this person want to be President?

Is it more about ego feeding than it is about the genuine concern for the site and the community?

Will this person serve and represent everyone on this site with impartiality and equality?

Will this person only surround themselves with like minded people and ignore, and perhaps exclude those who think differently or might be critical?

Do you believe that this person will be committed to the site, and understand that it is a responsibility that must be carried out through their term, not just surrounding the election itself.

Do you think that this person will contribute to the position of President, continuing to add relevance to the office, perhaps at the expense of their own ego?

I think everyone understands the direction I'm going with these questions. My greatest concern is that the position will go backward and will lose substantive relevance, so that it is merely a meaningless title, the result of a site wide popularity contest. Upon the end of my term I will issue a statement, a farewell address of sorts, where I will humbly offer suggestions to the next and future presidents, and the community as a whole.

-innomen

I'd add "Are these ideas practically feasible, or even explained?" and "Which policies are likely to be followed through".

I think you missed my point.
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5/6/2012 12:41:53 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
"My greatest concern is that the position will go backward and will lose substantive relevance, so that it is merely a meaningless title, the result of a site wide popularity contest."
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5/6/2012 1:10:26 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I will vote DK/Imabench since 16k is dropping out
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5/6/2012 1:12:46 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 12:41:53 PM, imabench wrote:
"My greatest concern is that the position will go backward and will lose substantive relevance, so that it is merely a meaningless title, the result of a site wide popularity contest."
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5/6/2012 1:13:09 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 1:12:46 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 5/6/2012 12:41:53 PM, imabench wrote:
"My greatest concern is that the position will go backward and will lose substantive relevance, so that it is merely a meaningless title, the result of a site wide popularity contest."
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5/6/2012 1:31:49 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 1:11:13 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
At 5/6/2012 1:10:26 PM, 1dustpelt wrote:
I will vote DK/Imabench since 16k is dropping out

wait....16k is dropping out!?!?!

he just did, http://www.debate.org...
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5/6/2012 2:16:59 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 12:41:53 PM, imabench wrote:
"My greatest concern is that the position will go backward and will lose substantive relevance, so that it is merely a meaningless title, the result of a site wide popularity contest."

As someone who is fairly new to the site, my first impression was that it is heading in this direction. I'm glad to see some genuine concern for this.
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5/6/2012 2:26:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 1:49:01 PM, Ren wrote:
Okay, I'm still not clear on this.

Will this new president be getting any mod or mod-like capacities?

I haven't decided yet, nor have I really heard any sort of direction on the members as to what they would like to see. I try to stay in tune with this sort of thing, but on this subject I am not clear as to what the site would like to see happen.
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5/6/2012 2:29:56 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 2:16:59 PM, Oryus wrote:
At 5/6/2012 12:41:53 PM, imabench wrote:
"My greatest concern is that the position will go backward and will lose substantive relevance, so that it is merely a meaningless title, the result of a site wide popularity contest."

As someone who is fairly new to the site, my first impression was that it is heading in this direction. I'm glad to see some genuine concern for this.

Innomen was the first to really bring significance to the position and everyone and their mother clamored after it at first, which is why he is emphasizing that people choose a person to be president who will maintain credibility to the position and not turn it into a popularity contest
Kevin24018 : "He's just so mean it makes me want to ball up my fists and stamp on the ground"
Geogeer: "Nobody is dumb enough to become my protege."

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5/6/2012 2:36:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 2:29:56 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:16:59 PM, Oryus wrote:
At 5/6/2012 12:41:53 PM, imabench wrote:
"My greatest concern is that the position will go backward and will lose substantive relevance, so that it is merely a meaningless title, the result of a site wide popularity contest."

As someone who is fairly new to the site, my first impression was that it is heading in this direction. I'm glad to see some genuine concern for this.

Innomen was the first to really bring significance to the position and everyone and their mother clamored after it at first, which is why he is emphasizing that people choose a person to be president who will maintain credibility to the position and not turn it into a popularity contest

Those who want it the most should worry you the most. Those who look at it as a service position will do best by it.
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5/6/2012 2:37:48 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 2:36:29 PM, innomen wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:29:56 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:16:59 PM, Oryus wrote:
At 5/6/2012 12:41:53 PM, imabench wrote:
"My greatest concern is that the position will go backward and will lose substantive relevance, so that it is merely a meaningless title, the result of a site wide popularity contest."

As someone who is fairly new to the site, my first impression was that it is heading in this direction. I'm glad to see some genuine concern for this.

Innomen was the first to really bring significance to the position and everyone and their mother clamored after it at first, which is why he is emphasizing that people choose a person to be president who will maintain credibility to the position and not turn it into a popularity contest

"Those who want it the most should worry you the most. Those who look at it as a service position will do best by it."

That sounds like it could be a quote from Socrates
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Geogeer: "Nobody is dumb enough to become my protege."

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5/6/2012 2:41:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 2:37:48 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:36:29 PM, innomen wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:29:56 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:16:59 PM, Oryus wrote:
At 5/6/2012 12:41:53 PM, imabench wrote:
"My greatest concern is that the position will go backward and will lose substantive relevance, so that it is merely a meaningless title, the result of a site wide popularity contest."

As someone who is fairly new to the site, my first impression was that it is heading in this direction. I'm glad to see some genuine concern for this.

Innomen was the first to really bring significance to the position and everyone and their mother clamored after it at first, which is why he is emphasizing that people choose a person to be president who will maintain credibility to the position and not turn it into a popularity contest

"Those who want it the most should worry you the most. Those who look at it as a service position will do best by it."

That sounds like it could be a quote from Socrates

It is true though. When people started salivating over being president I began to have some concerns, because they clearly wanted it because they thought it would be cool, and it would feed their ego, but I truly doubt it was about having the best interest of the site in mind.

As for mod, I honestly wish there was some sort of pole or thread or discussion on what should happen to the mod position.
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5/6/2012 2:43:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 2:41:11 PM, innomen wrote:

As for mod, I honestly wish there was some sort of pole or thread or discussion on what should happen to the mod position.

im bolding that because I cant do it right now (studying for a final)
Kevin24018 : "He's just so mean it makes me want to ball up my fists and stamp on the ground"
Geogeer: "Nobody is dumb enough to become my protege."

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5/6/2012 2:45:19 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 2:43:13 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:41:11 PM, innomen wrote:

As for mod, I honestly wish there was some sort of pole or thread or discussion on what should happen to the mod position.

im bolding that because I cant do it right now (studying for a final)

Yeah studying. I can tell. I wonder what your grades are like, you NEVER leave this site. I think you take the laptop to the bathroom with you.
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5/6/2012 2:47:04 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 2:45:19 PM, innomen wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:43:13 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:41:11 PM, innomen wrote:

As for mod, I honestly wish there was some sort of pole or thread or discussion on what should happen to the mod position.

im bolding that because I cant do it right now (studying for a final)

Yeah studying. I can tell. I wonder what your grades are like, you NEVER leave this site. I think you take the laptop to the bathroom with you.

Thanks Innomen now EVERYBODY knows....

XD
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5/6/2012 2:48:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 2:47:04 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:45:19 PM, innomen wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:43:13 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:41:11 PM, innomen wrote:

As for mod, I honestly wish there was some sort of pole or thread or discussion on what should happen to the mod position.

im bolding that because I cant do it right now (studying for a final)

Yeah studying. I can tell. I wonder what your grades are like, you NEVER leave this site. I think you take the laptop to the bathroom with you.

Thanks Innomen now EVERYBODY knows....

XD

You know we all love you Ima, and just want you to do well in school.
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5/6/2012 2:50:14 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 2:48:58 PM, innomen wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:47:04 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:45:19 PM, innomen wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:43:13 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:41:11 PM, innomen wrote:

As for mod, I honestly wish there was some sort of pole or thread or discussion on what should happen to the mod position.

im bolding that because I cant do it right now (studying for a final)

Yeah studying. I can tell. I wonder what your grades are like, you NEVER leave this site. I think you take the laptop to the bathroom with you.

Thanks Innomen now EVERYBODY knows....

XD

You know we all love you Ima, and just want you to do well in school.

aww thanks Inno
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Geogeer: "Nobody is dumb enough to become my protege."

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5/6/2012 3:00:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 2:41:11 PM, innomen wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:37:48 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:36:29 PM, innomen wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:29:56 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:16:59 PM, Oryus wrote:
At 5/6/2012 12:41:53 PM, imabench wrote:
"My greatest concern is that the position will go backward and will lose substantive relevance, so that it is merely a meaningless title, the result of a site wide popularity contest."

As someone who is fairly new to the site, my first impression was that it is heading in this direction. I'm glad to see some genuine concern for this.

Innomen was the first to really bring significance to the position and everyone and their mother clamored after it at first, which is why he is emphasizing that people choose a person to be president who will maintain credibility to the position and not turn it into a popularity contest

"Those who want it the most should worry you the most. Those who look at it as a service position will do best by it."

That sounds like it could be a quote from Socrates

It is true though. When people started salivating over being president I began to have some concerns, because they clearly wanted it because they thought it would be cool, and it would feed their ego, but I truly doubt it was about having the best interest of the site in mind.

As for mod, I honestly wish there was some sort of pole or thread or discussion on what should happen to the mod position.

Perhaps this is why they made you el presidente ^_^
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5/6/2012 3:23:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 2:50:14 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:48:58 PM, innomen wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:47:04 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:45:19 PM, innomen wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:43:13 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:41:11 PM, innomen wrote:

As for mod, I honestly wish there was some sort of pole or thread or discussion on what should happen to the mod position.

im bolding that because I cant do it right now (studying for a final)

Yeah studying. I can tell. I wonder what your grades are like, you NEVER leave this site. I think you take the laptop to the bathroom with you.

This is the same question I ask myself about royal, who is on 24/7 and goes to a university ranked #4 in the country (and is actually in a real degree in computational biology).

Ima is just a civil engineering major, so that I can understand :p. (i'm a chemE and we like to make fun of the civils).
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5/6/2012 3:24:01 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 3:23:00 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:50:14 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:48:58 PM, innomen wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:47:04 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:45:19 PM, innomen wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:43:13 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/6/2012 2:41:11 PM, innomen wrote:

As for mod, I honestly wish there was some sort of pole or thread or discussion on what should happen to the mod position.

im bolding that because I cant do it right now (studying for a final)

Yeah studying. I can tell. I wonder what your grades are like, you NEVER leave this site. I think you take the laptop to the bathroom with you.


This is the same question I ask myself about royal, who is on 24/7 and goes to a university ranked #4 in the country (and is actually in a real degree in computational biology).

Ima is just a civil engineering major, so that I can understand :p. (i'm a chemE and we like to make fun of the civils).

>:P
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5/6/2012 3:36:27 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Lol civils.

Three engineering students were gathered together discussing the possible designers of the human body.

One said, "It was a mechanical engineer. Just look at all the joints.'

Another said, "No, it was an electrical engineer. The nervous systems many thousands of electrical connections.'

The last said, "Actually it was a civil engineer. Who else would run a toxic waste pipeline through a recreational area?'
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5/6/2012 3:40:54 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 3:36:27 PM, Thaddeus wrote:
Lol civils.

Three engineering students were gathered together discussing the possible designers of the human body.

One said, "It was a mechanical engineer. Just look at all the joints.'

Another said, "No, it was an electrical engineer. The nervous systems many thousands of electrical connections.'

The last said, "Actually it was a civil engineer. Who else would run a toxic waste pipeline through a recreational area?'

Moral of the story: God was a civil engineer
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5/6/2012 3:45:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/6/2012 3:40:54 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/6/2012 3:36:27 PM, Thaddeus wrote:
Lol civils.

Three engineering students were gathered together discussing the possible designers of the human body.

One said, "It was a mechanical engineer. Just look at all the joints.'

Another said, "No, it was an electrical engineer. The nervous systems many thousands of electrical connections.'

The last said, "Actually it was a civil engineer. Who else would run a toxic waste pipeline through a recreational area?'

Moral of the story: God was a civil engineer

Moral of the story. Lets laugh at civil engineers.