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5/13/2012 1:35:54 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Here is our platform:

1.) Banning- As always, we only support limited banning. We would weaken banning power where only very obvious trolls could be banned.

2.) Cell Phone Verification- We support ending the cell phone requirement. We are also open to suggestions for a more reasonable alternative to stop mutli accounting.

3.) History Topic- We totally support the creation of a history topic.

4.) Censorship of the Forums- We support eliminating the ban on cussing in the forums and the ban on all caps lock posts.

5.) Big Issues Reform- We fully support the efforts to reform the Big Issues.

We understand that it requires working with juggle to achieve these reforms. That makes sense. But, we do feel it is appropriate to lay out what our priorities would be.

Vote for Jimtimmy and 16kadams!
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5/13/2012 1:36:56 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
How do you feel about the 500 posts requirement to vote?
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5/13/2012 1:37:27 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 1:36:56 AM, Ameriman wrote:
How do you feel about the 500 posts requirement to vote?

I thought it was only 100.
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5/13/2012 1:38:06 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 1:37:27 AM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 5/13/2012 1:36:56 AM, Ameriman wrote:
How do you feel about the 500 posts requirement to vote?


I thought it was only 100.

No, they changed it recently.

I think it is a bit too much.
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5/13/2012 1:38:39 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 1:38:06 AM, Ameriman wrote:
At 5/13/2012 1:37:27 AM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 5/13/2012 1:36:56 AM, Ameriman wrote:
How do you feel about the 500 posts requirement to vote?


I thought it was only 100.


No, they changed it recently.

I think it is a bit too much.

I wouldn't be for that.
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5/13/2012 1:39:21 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
To be clear, if the voting requirement has indeed risen to 500 posts (which I have not yet confirmed), I am opposed to that and would support lowering it back to 100.
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5/13/2012 1:41:29 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I agree with everything in this platform, and you are the only candidate who has yet said they would endorse lowering the voting requirement.

Although, I haven't asked the others.

I honestly didn't even know you were running, because somebody else told me there were only two candidates and one was you.

I also thought 16kadams was running for president, but is he running for VP now with you?

Also, I heard you were a racist. Is that true?
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5/13/2012 1:43:43 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 1:41:29 AM, Ameriman wrote:
I agree with everything in this platform, and you are the only candidate who has yet said they would endorse lowering the voting requirement.

Although, I haven't asked the others.

I honestly didn't even know you were running, because somebody else told me there were only two candidates and one was you.

I also thought 16kadams was running for president, but is he running for VP now with you?

Also, I heard you were a racist. Is that true?

Thank you.

I really would appreciate your vote.

Um, 16kadams was running with me as my VP originally. But, then I left and he ran for president.

But, when I came back, he had dropped out so he joined me again as VP.

And, as for the racist thing.

I used to have some views that some considered racially insensitive. I have since abandoned those views.

Anyways, I am gonna have to find out more about this 500 post thing, that seems pretty absurd.
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5/13/2012 1:52:08 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I challenge you to debate me on who would make a better president.
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5/13/2012 2:03:21 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 1:52:08 AM, tvellalott wrote:
I challenge you to debate me on who would make a better president.

Tvellalott, how do you feel about the 500 post requirement?
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5/13/2012 2:14:28 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 1:52:08 AM, tvellalott wrote:
I challenge you to debate me on who would make a better president.

Tvellalot, who's your VP even?
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5/13/2012 5:56:48 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 2:14:28 AM, Zaradi wrote:
At 5/13/2012 1:52:08 AM, tvellalott wrote:
I challenge you to debate me on who would make a better president.

Tvellalot, who's your VP even?

That hurts Zaradi.
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5/13/2012 6:08:54 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 1:35:54 AM, jimtimmy wrote:
Here is our platform:

1.) Banning- As always, we only support limited banning. We would weaken banning power where only very obvious trolls could be banned.

I don't believe you. Although you probably believe what you're saying, but I don't believe you. You're a kid with the power to ban, that is if you have the ability to ban, which is incredibly unlikely.

2.) Cell Phone Verification- We support ending the cell phone requirement. We are also open to suggestions for a more reasonable alternative to stop mutli accounting.

You're not juggle, you can make no such change. You curry no influence with Juggle, and you will never be able to make this happen.

3.) History Topic- We totally support the creation of a history topic.

Although I favor this, the site repeatedly has said no. You will act contrary to the wants of the members?

4.) Censorship of the Forums- We support eliminating the ban on cussing in the forums and the ban on all caps lock posts.


Again, you are not Juggle, you have no ability to make this change.

5.) Big Issues Reform- We fully support the efforts to reform the Big Issues.

Good luck with that. You don't know what's involved, and for this, I have faith in Ore_Ele, not you.

We understand that it requires working with juggle to achieve these reforms. That makes sense. But, we do feel it is appropriate to lay out what our priorities would be.


A wish list is nice around Christmas time, but the first rule of all goals is that they must be attainable.

Vote for Jimtimmy and 16kadams!
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5/13/2012 6:24:27 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 5:56:48 AM, Thaddeus wrote:
At 5/13/2012 2:14:28 AM, Zaradi wrote:
At 5/13/2012 1:52:08 AM, tvellalott wrote:
I challenge you to debate me on who would make a better president.

Tvellalot, who's your VP even?

That hurts Zaradi.

You?
I was never aware he even chose.
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5/13/2012 6:33:42 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 6:24:27 AM, Zaradi wrote:
At 5/13/2012 5:56:48 AM, Thaddeus wrote:
At 5/13/2012 2:14:28 AM, Zaradi wrote:
At 5/13/2012 1:52:08 AM, tvellalott wrote:
I challenge you to debate me on who would make a better president.

Tvellalot, who's your VP even?

That hurts Zaradi.

You?
I was never aware he even chose.

He was my VP, then we switched.
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5/13/2012 9:12:00 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 7:06:15 AM, drafterman wrote:
Why should we vote for someone who admitted their return here is most likely temporary?

THAT is your major objection?
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5/13/2012 10:16:36 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
"Now that your back I might as well ask you a couple of questions.

1) When you left DDO some of your last words were about how you made up the DDO elite, that it was an absurd idea you used for comedic effect and to hopefully gain support.... My question is how do you expect people to see your next platform as legitimate when you confessed that your last one was made up?

2) In one of the three forums you made upon your return to DDO, when asked whether or not you would run for president you replied by saying "probably not", and 11 minutes later you announced you were running and havent even made a platform. Why the impulsive change so fast?

3) Why did you make 16k your VP........ Again?

4) You have also confessed to making up lies about yourself for pity from other people on DDO and you confessed to harassing DDO members who have only been nice to you. What would make you a trustworthy candidate?

5) Why did you decide to come back and did it have anything to do with 16k dropping out? (I ask this because the timing between your arrival and 16k's dropping out was impeccable and it seems like you came back to replace 16k's campaign)

6) Last time your main campaign goal was to rid DDO of the DDO elite and make it so that people didnt live in perpetual fear of being banned, what will be your main stance this time?"
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5/13/2012 12:18:23 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 9:12:00 AM, Stephen_Hawkins wrote:
At 5/13/2012 7:06:15 AM, drafterman wrote:
Why should we vote for someone who admitted their return here is most likely temporary?

THAT is your major objection?

It's not an objection, it's a question. Neither did I qualify it as being "major" or realize that this thread is only for "major" objections.

I am surprised that you picked that, not being an illicitly revealed PM and all.
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5/13/2012 2:04:39 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 1:39:21 AM, jimtimmy wrote:
To be clear, if the voting requirement has indeed risen to 500 posts (which I have not yet confirmed), I am opposed to that and would support lowering it back to 100.

I can see why you would be opposed to it because if it is a 500 post requirement then you lose 95% of your support.....
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5/13/2012 2:06:19 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 2:04:39 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/13/2012 1:39:21 AM, jimtimmy wrote:
To be clear, if the voting requirement has indeed risen to 500 posts (which I have not yet confirmed), I am opposed to that and would support lowering it back to 100.

I can see why you would be opposed to it because if it is a 500 post requirement then you lose 95% of your support.....

Does the president even have the power to lower the voting requirement?
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5/13/2012 2:08:04 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 2:06:19 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
At 5/13/2012 2:04:39 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/13/2012 1:39:21 AM, jimtimmy wrote:
To be clear, if the voting requirement has indeed risen to 500 posts (which I have not yet confirmed), I am opposed to that and would support lowering it back to 100.

I can see why you would be opposed to it because if it is a 500 post requirement then you lose 95% of your support.....

Does the president even have the power to lower the voting requirement?

nope, but dont tell him that because if he figures out that even as president he cant promise to fulfill any of the changes he has listed then it could really damage his support....
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5/13/2012 2:09:32 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 2:08:04 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/13/2012 2:06:19 PM, THEBOMB wrote:
At 5/13/2012 2:04:39 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/13/2012 1:39:21 AM, jimtimmy wrote:
To be clear, if the voting requirement has indeed risen to 500 posts (which I have not yet confirmed), I am opposed to that and would support lowering it back to 100.

I can see why you would be opposed to it because if it is a 500 post requirement then you lose 95% of your support.....

Does the president even have the power to lower the voting requirement?

nope, but dont tell him that because if he figures out that even as president he cant promise to fulfill any of the changes he has listed then it could really damage his support....

Yea...I noticed that to. 99.9% of that stuff is stuff he could not even promise....
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5/13/2012 2:11:47 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
No offense but if Innomen thinks your platform is BS then you don't have a chance. Really I felt that 16kadams' original platform is a much better one then this. Sorry, but I am voting Darkkermit and imabench unless there are improvements.
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5/13/2012 2:43:40 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 6:08:54 AM, innomen wrote:
At 5/13/2012 1:35:54 AM, jimtimmy wrote:
Here is our platform:

1.) Banning- As always, we only support limited banning. We would weaken banning power where only very obvious trolls could be banned.

I don't believe you. Although you probably believe what you're saying, but I don't believe you. You're a kid with the power to ban, that is if you have the ability to ban, which is incredibly unlikely.

At 18 years old, I am a legal adult.

And, I can guarantee I will keep this promise.


2.) Cell Phone Verification- We support ending the cell phone requirement. We are also open to suggestions for a more reasonable alternative to stop mutli accounting.

You're not juggle, you can make no such change. You curry no influence with Juggle, and you will never be able to make this happen.

I can be quite convincing. And, I am only laying out my priorities. I made clear that that is what this is.



3.) History Topic- We totally support the creation of a history topic.

Although I favor this, the site repeatedly has said no. You will act contrary to the wants of the members?

If they vote for me, somebody who is clearly for this, how is this contrary to the will of the members?


4.) Censorship of the Forums- We support eliminating the ban on cussing in the forums and the ban on all caps lock posts.


Again, you are not Juggle, you have no ability to make this change.

I can try. Just because you have not succeeded in doing things does not mean that I won't.


5.) Big Issues Reform- We fully support the efforts to reform the Big Issues.

Good luck with that. You don't know what's involved, and for this, I have faith in Ore_Ele, not you.

Again, the fact that you have failed in this regard does not mean that any president would fail.


We understand that it requires working with juggle to achieve these reforms. That makes sense. But, we do feel it is appropriate to lay out what our priorities would be.


A wish list is nice around Christmas time, but the first rule of all goals is that they must be attainable.

Vote for Jimtimmy and 16kadams!

I can see that, unfortunatley, you appear to be attacking my candidacy very hard.

It's true that I am not running for your third term. If somebody wants to vote for a third Innomen term, they shouldn't vote for me.

I am offering real change from your failures as president. So, it is understandable that you would be frustrated.
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5/13/2012 3:01:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
@JimTimmy I like your platform but lots of it is filled with 16kadams inside of it. 16kadams is a more controversial person than Microsuck. And given your past history, nobody is ready for you to be prez.
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5/13/2012 3:08:33 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 2:43:40 PM, jimtimmy wrote:
At 5/13/2012 6:08:54 AM, innomen wrote:
At 5/13/2012 1:35:54 AM, jimtimmy wrote:
Here is our platform:

1.) Banning- As always, we only support limited banning. We would weaken banning power where only very obvious trolls could be banned.

I don't believe you. Although you probably believe what you're saying, but I don't believe you. You're a kid with the power to ban, that is if you have the ability to ban, which is incredibly unlikely.



At 18 years old, I am a legal adult.

And, I can guarantee I will keep this promise.

Well, since I will make sure you do not have the ability to mod, I wouldn't make such guarantees.


2.) Cell Phone Verification- We support ending the cell phone requirement. We are also open to suggestions for a more reasonable alternative to stop mutli accounting.

You're not juggle, you can make no such change. You curry no influence with Juggle, and you will never be able to make this happen.




I can be quite convincing. And, I am only laying out my priorities. I made clear that that is what this is.

You don't know what you're talking about, nor do you know the ramifications of such a change, or you just don't care.




3.) History Topic- We totally support the creation of a history topic.

Although I favor this, the site repeatedly has said no. You will act contrary to the wants of the members?



If they vote for me, somebody who is clearly for this, how is this contrary to the will of the members?

A good leader puts his wants aside, and acquiesces to those he serves.



4.) Censorship of the Forums- We support eliminating the ban on cussing in the forums and the ban on all caps lock posts.


Again, you are not Juggle, you have no ability to make this change.




I can try. Just because you have not succeeded in doing things does not mean that I won't.

I made no such attempt. They will not change the standards of this site for you, nor should they.

5.) Big Issues Reform- We fully support the efforts to reform the Big Issues.

Good luck with that. You don't know what's involved, and for this, I have faith in Ore_Ele, not you.



Again, the fact that you have failed in this regard does not mean that any president would fail.

You speak as if you have an inkling of what you're talking about and you don't, and you never shall. Know this, that your biggest flaw is, you want power. You don't wish to serve, but you want power. As such you will never be effective, but only be divisive.



We understand that it requires working with juggle to achieve these reforms. That makes sense. But, we do feel it is appropriate to lay out what our priorities would be.


A wish list is nice around Christmas time, but the first rule of all goals is that they must be attainable.

Vote for Jimtimmy and 16kadams!



I can see that, unfortunatley, you appear to be attacking my candidacy very hard.

It's true that I am not running for your third term. If somebody wants to vote for a third Innomen term, they shouldn't vote for me.

I am offering real change from your failures as president. So, it is understandable that you would be frustrated.

I'll give you this, you have balls.
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5/13/2012 3:10:30 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 1:35:54 AM, jimtimmy wrote:
4.) Censorship of the Forums- We support eliminating the ban on cussing in the forums and the ban on all caps lock posts.

Now, who does this sound like? (Hint: The answer rhymes with "WriterDave")
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5/13/2012 3:13:38 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 10:16:36 AM, imabench wrote:
"Now that your back I might as well ask you a couple of questions.

1) When you left DDO some of your last words were about how you made up the DDO elite, that it was an absurd idea you used for comedic effect and to hopefully gain support.... My question is how do you expect people to see your next platform as legitimate when you confessed that your last one was made up?

2) In one of the three forums you made upon your return to DDO, when asked whether or not you would run for president you replied by saying "probably not", and 11 minutes later you announced you were running and havent even made a platform. Why the impulsive change so fast?

3) Why did you make 16k your VP........ Again?

4) You have also confessed to making up lies about yourself for pity from other people on DDO and you confessed to harassing DDO members who have only been nice to you. What would make you a trustworthy candidate?

5) Why did you decide to come back and did it have anything to do with 16k dropping out? (I ask this because the timing between your arrival and 16k's dropping out was impeccable and it seems like you came back to replace 16k's campaign)

6) Last time your main campaign goal was to rid DDO of the DDO elite and make it so that people didnt live in perpetual fear of being banned, what will be your main stance this time?"
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