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5/13/2012 8:36:41 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
This thread will both serve as an informative thread about me as well as a platform for my presidential election campaign and as such, will be broken into two sections.

ABOUT ME

I'll keep this short, since this is the less important of the two points.
My name is Tom. I'm 25 years old and I live in Melbourne, Australia (that's GMT+10 or 15-17 hours ahead of the USA for those interested).
I work full time for a specialist telecommunications company mostly in the IT section. My job consists of a myriad of tasks including software development, IT support for small to medium businesses, technical work involving new estates and renovations and installing medical alarms for the elderly and disabled. I am also a qualified Cabinet Maker but left that industry on account of it being unprofitable and boring. Because I work with and on computers so much, I am in a perfect position to spend ridiculous amounts of time on DDO and do.
I am in a relationship with a wonderful girl and we're expecting our first child in December.
I have been using DDO for two years and unlike many people here, I feel that I haven't changed my stance on things very much. Instead I've simply become better at labelling and expressing what I believed prior. I am indeed a strong Atheist (with a lot of respect for civilised and open-minded Theists, who we have a quite a lot of here) and an Anacho-Capitalist, though not as informed on the subject as I'd like to be due to time constraints and priorities. I fear that this might be a hindrance in this election as people tend to divide themselves amongst these beliefs rather than looking at the character of a person.
I am highly flawed as a person. Hypocritical, obnoxious, rude, stubborn and I'm prone to using fallacy and four letter expletives excessively. I feel by acknowledging these flaws I can work for the betterment of myself.

Anyway, if anyone cares about who I am, they can ask whatever they want to know here and I'll answer to the best of my ability.

MY PLATFORM

With the election a month away, I think it's time for me to outline exactly what you would be getting with me as president.

ON HOW I WOULD MODERATE, GIVEN THE CHANCE...
First of all, I'd like to make something perfectly clear. I will NOT be 'moderating like innomen'. Perhaps I said those words before, but I have since repositioned myself. The past few weeks and months have been extremely eye-opening to me. The amusing thing is that technically, jimtimmy was correct about the "DDO Elite". They're called "The Inner Circle" and it's unashamedly innomen's 'little club'. In this group, your private information is not so private. Former vice-president candidate imabench would come with a bunch of username's he suspected were held by multi-accounters and innomen, rather than simply saying "I checked them and you're right/wrong", would actually tell us the IP addresses.
For example during the recent "imawhatever" boom, innomen released the ip addresses and emails of all the various ima's...
(I'm obviously not going to release these IP addresses or emails, but they were intact when we were told about them.)
Imarecliner: 76.***.234.12* withheldATgmail.com
Imaseat: 99.***.23.23* withheldATaol.com
Imachair: 60.***.24.8* withheldATgmail.com
imastool: 67.***.235.7* withheldATgmail.com
imatroll: 74.***.145.21* withheldATgmail.com
imaimabench: 68.***.33.11* withheldATgmail.com
imaboard: 67.***.131.17* withheldATyahoo.com
[/EDITED]

...simply because imabench asked him for them. This is not an isolated incident either and many IP addresses were released over the multiple 'Inner Circle' PM's that I was included in.

The reason I bring this up is because I want to make it perfectly clear; as president, I would not use this system. To be quite honest, I don't trust many of you as anything more than electronic acquaintances and those who I consider 'friends' are few and far between. I think I've made it fairly clear throughout the election so far that I like things to be out in the open. Issues should be either discussed publicly in the forums or individually in a private PM between the members involved.

What I would do, assuming I ever become a moderator, is uphold the excellent "Extended Code of Conduct for Debate.org" produced by Wnope, RoyLatham, and Unitedandy, while allowing any necessary amendments that could possibly arise.

THE ASKBOB ISSUE AGAIN, JUST SO YOU KNOW
Just want to make this crystal clear...

At 4/23/2012 8:43:33 PM, tvellalott wrote:
Well I'm already decided on this issue. Given the negative feedback, I'm not going to try and have askbob unbanned. I don't want users like USM or royalpaladin to feel threatened by one members presence, regardless of how I feel about that member.

I feel like the accusations against askbob are being blown out of proportion and I will work to prove this point, but until I get unanimous agreement, I will not comment on this further. My personal preference doesn't take precedent over the community.
askbob will remain banned until all his detractors are convinced he deserves another chance.

This is my official position. askbob has no interest in coming back officially anyway, preferring to troll. He has lost a lot of my respect and I have not communicated with him for sometime.

DEBATE TOURNAMENTS, MAFIA AND OTHER SPECIAL INTERESTS

Clearly, I alone cannot make these things happen but I will be actively encouraging our best tournament organisers, mafia moderators and standout's within the small special interest sub-communities (i.e. hip-hop battles, poetry slams, ms paint battles, video debates) to push for more and more "Official" DDO events.

ON JUGGLE'S CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE SITE

Egad, this is such an annoying point. There is no reason to believe that Juggle will commit any more time than they already do and given the time required to make changes to a site like this, that any major changes will happen.
Having said that, as President I would champion such initiatives as the Big Big Issues Issue and account verification for international members (an issue close to home for me). I have been involved in one way or another in the previous three elections and I'm fully aware of the improvements the community wants.

SUMMARY

I am championing honesty, transparency and activity in this election.
While I believe innomen is an excellent president, I feel he relies too heavily on his "Inner Circle" rather than bringing issues of contention to the community and would not continue that tradition. As President any personal issue between members would be dealt with privately and public issues would be dealt with publicly. There is no need for an Inner Circle.
Finally I am certainly online enough to deal with the workload the President/Moderator has to deal with.

Questions?
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5/13/2012 8:56:38 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I think that ultimately, your experience on this website lends you better to doing the job of President, rather than Airmax. Don't get me wrong, Airmax is a very nice fellow; he is one of those few unideological, not highly opinionated people. However, being a VP under Innomen for two administrations comes with its benefits.

Voting for Airmax because of Innomen is simply a misconception. Disregard the VP, vote for the President. After all, he will be the one with the largest authority.

For that reason, you have my vote.
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5/13/2012 8:57:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 8:36:41 PM, tvellalott wrote:
Questions?

I have a few. Please answer them honestly and without restraint.

1. What's your favorite kind of cheese?
2. If you had to pick one card game to become heavily involved in, what card game would you pick and why?
3. Coke or Pepsi?
4. Favorite sport?
5. Favorite series of children's novels?

Thank you for your time.
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5/13/2012 9:00:26 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
timeout a**wipe.

1) I asked for the IP addresses of all the ima accounts because I they were all obviously multiaccounts, I just wanted to know if one person was behind it (because i could name several people who might try such a thing) because some of the accounts were starting to harass other people and spam debates, and THAT is where it crossed the line for me, and that is also where a lot of other people started to get mad at all these ima accounts.

If you have a problem with me then say it to my face and tell me why im not a good person, dont use it as leverage for your own use like an a**hole just because you havent beat anyone in a presidential poll since you blew off Thaddeus and started your own campaign.

2) Let the record show that Tvellalot believes in the DDO elite, which is something that Jimtimmy confessed was made up bullsh*t about a month ago....

3) Innomen didnt release the IP addresses. That was microsuck and they were quickly taken down by Innomen because microsuck actually posted the FULL ip addresses which isnt legal. Check your facts first....

4) the inner circle isnt a secret, and they exist to help innomen run this site properly, and the inner circle has helped him do just that. The inner circle is a board of advisers that help Innomen run the site, they are not a secret cult like you make them out to be.

5) " Former vice-president candidate imabench would come with a bunch of username's he suspected were held by multi-accounters and innomen, rather than simply saying "I checked them and you're right/wrong", would actually tell us the IP addresses."

And what the f*ck is wrong with that? Its good to know that the president is actually openly truthful about IP checks on this site, and if your policy would be to withhold information then thats a really f*cked up policy

6) " I don't trust many of you as anything more than electronic acquaintances and those who I consider 'friends' are few and far between."

Good to know

7) " askbob has no interest in coming back officially anyway,"

Then why does he do exactly that every couple of weeks?

8) "I am championing honesty, transparency and activity in this election."

You have lied your a** off about groups that YOU used to be a part of and you know damn well that Innomen's inner circle isnt a secret and isnt a DDO elite

9) "While I believe innomen is an excellent president, I feel he relies too heavily on his "Inner Circle" "

And your policy is what? abolish a board of trusted advisers to rule DDO like an absolute dictater? we have FREEDO running on that platform, its kind of sad to see someone try to campaign using that stance, but do it seriously

10) " There is no need for an Inner Circle."

Based on your own opinion maybe. But what happens when your asleep and at work for 3/4 of the day while DDO stays running? Who watches over DDO when your not on?
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5/13/2012 9:02:24 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 8:57:55 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 5/13/2012 8:36:41 PM, tvellalott wrote:
Questions?

I have a few. Please answer them honestly and without restraint.

1. What's your favorite kind of cheese?
Extra Sharp Tasty
2. If you had to pick one card game to become heavily involved in, what card game would you pick and why?
Well, I've been practising sleight of hands with cards for a few years now so I know a lot about a lot of card games. My favourite game is called "Sh!thead" and I don't know how to explain it. I would like to be really good at Texas Holdem though.
3. Coke or Pepsi?
I don't really like Cola, but if I have to choose one to mix my Canadian Club with, it's probably going to be Coke.
4. Favorite sport?
I like AFL (Australian Rules Football) and I played a bit of Hockey earlier in my youth.
5. Favorite series of children's novels?
There is a great series of books by an author called Garth Nix about the Old Kingdom and these Necromancers called Abhorsen. Harry Potter gets an honourable mention, but it's a bit cliche to say that.
I also like Roald Dahls books.

Thank you for your time.
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5/13/2012 9:04:24 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 9:00:26 PM, imabench wrote:
timeout a**wipe.

1) I asked for the IP addresses of all the ima accounts because I they were all obviously multiaccounts, I just wanted to know if one person was behind it (because i could name several people who might try such a thing) because some of the accounts were starting to harass other people and spam debates, and THAT is where it crossed the line for me, and that is also where a lot of other people started to get mad at all these ima accounts.

If you have a problem with me then say it to my face and tell me why im not a good person, dont use it as leverage for your own use like an a**hole just because you havent beat anyone in a presidential poll since you blew off Thaddeus and started your own campaign.

2) Let the record show that Tvellalot believes in the DDO elite, which is something that Jimtimmy confessed was made up bullsh*t about a month ago....

3) Innomen didnt release the IP addresses. That was microsuck and they were quickly taken down by Innomen because microsuck actually posted the FULL ip addresses which isnt legal. Check your facts first....

4) the inner circle isnt a secret, and they exist to help innomen run this site properly, and the inner circle has helped him do just that. The inner circle is a board of advisers that help Innomen run the site, they are not a secret cult like you make them out to be.

5) " Former vice-president candidate imabench would come with a bunch of username's he suspected were held by multi-accounters and innomen, rather than simply saying "I checked them and you're right/wrong", would actually tell us the IP addresses."

And what the f*ck is wrong with that? Its good to know that the president is actually openly truthful about IP checks on this site, and if your policy would be to withhold information then thats a really f*cked up policy

6) " I don't trust many of you as anything more than electronic acquaintances and those who I consider 'friends' are few and far between."

Good to know

7) " askbob has no interest in coming back officially anyway,"

Then why does he do exactly that every couple of weeks?

8) "I am championing honesty, transparency and activity in this election."

You have lied your a** off about groups that YOU used to be a part of and you know damn well that Innomen's inner circle isnt a secret and isnt a DDO elite

9) "While I believe innomen is an excellent president, I feel he relies too heavily on his "Inner Circle" "

And your policy is what? abolish a board of trusted advisers to rule DDO like an absolute dictater? we have FREEDO running on that platform, its kind of sad to see someone try to campaign using that stance, but do it seriously

10) " There is no need for an Inner Circle."

Based on your own opinion maybe. But what happens when your asleep and at work for 3/4 of the day while DDO stays running? Who watches over DDO when your not on?

Awhhhh dayummmmmm! We have some shiit goin down here!
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5/13/2012 9:04:45 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 9:00:26 PM, imabench wrote:
timeout a**wipe.

And the flame war begins...
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5/13/2012 9:09:56 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Question: What is the official campaign song of the TV campaign?
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5/13/2012 9:11:49 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 9:04:45 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 5/13/2012 9:00:26 PM, imabench wrote:
timeout a**wipe.

And the flame war begins...

*grabs popcorn*

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5/13/2012 9:12:30 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 9:11:49 PM, Koopin wrote:
At 5/13/2012 9:04:45 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 5/13/2012 9:00:26 PM, imabench wrote:
timeout a**wipe.

And the flame war begins...

*grabs popcorn*

If only writerdave were here!

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5/13/2012 9:13:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I would like to make note that when TV said the DDO elite is

" They're called "The Inner Circle" and it's unashamedly innomen's 'little club'"

that TV conveniently left out the fact that he was ONE OF THE PEOPLE IN THE INNER CIRCLE.....
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5/13/2012 9:13:26 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I also find it amusing that this is the first complaint that tv has made about the inner circle when he's been a member of it the entire time. Tvellalott never once complained about innomen posting IP addresses in the inner circle. Yet now all of a sudden its a huge controversial issue that Tv will have no part in. Seems a bit hypocritical if you ask me.
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5/13/2012 9:13:40 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 9:00:26 PM, imabench wrote:
timeout a**wipe.
OK Captain Butthurt.


1) I asked for the IP addresses of all the ima accounts because I they were all obviously multiaccounts, I just wanted to know if one person was behind it (because i could name several people who might try such a thing) because some of the accounts were starting to harass other people and spam debates, and THAT is where it crossed the line for me, and that is also where a lot of other people started to get mad at all these ima accounts.

Who the hell are you to be asking for IP addresses? What are you going to do with them? innomen shouldn't have given you that information because:
1) Regardless of whether it's a troll, it's still private information. Isn't that the whole problem with askbob?
2) You can't do anything with it anything, save for DDOS attacks. Perhaps that's what you wanted?

If you have a problem with me then say it to my face and tell me why im not a good person, dont use it as leverage for your own use like an a**hole just because you havent beat anyone in a presidential poll since you blew off Thaddeus and started your own campaign.
I don't have a problem with you. I added you on Facebook because I quite like you, or liked you... Since I don't like the tone of this post. I don't care about the polls.

2) Let the record show that Tvellalot believes in the DDO elite, which is something that Jimtimmy confessed was made up bullsh*t about a month ago....

You disagree that the Inner Circle is a form of DDO elite?

3) Innomen didnt release the IP addresses. That was microsuck and they were quickly taken down by Innomen because microsuck actually posted the FULL ip addresses which isnt legal. Check your facts first....

He released the IP addresses to at least 7 people.

4) the inner circle isnt a secret, and they exist to help innomen run this site properly, and the inner circle has helped him do just that. The inner circle is a board of advisers that help Innomen run the site, they are not a secret cult like you make them out to be.

The inner circle doesn't do anything. Wake up to yourself. Innomen ultimately does everything himself. The Inner Circle are there for him to consult with. I feel like he should consult with everyone via the Forums.

5) " Former vice-president candidate imabench would come with a bunch of username's he suspected were held by multi-accounters and innomen, rather than simply saying "I checked them and you're right/wrong", would actually tell us the IP addresses."

And what the f*ck is wrong with that? Its good to know that the president is actually openly truthful about IP checks on this site, and if your policy would be to withhold information then thats a really f*cked up policy

If he wanted to deceive you, he could lie about the IP addresses. Either you trust him or you don't.

6) " I don't trust many of you as anything more than electronic acquaintances and those who I consider 'friends' are few and far between."

Good to know

7) " askbob has no interest in coming back officially anyway,"

Then why does he do exactly that every couple of weeks?

Not getting into this. Lrn2read.

8) "I am championing honesty, transparency and activity in this election."

You have lied your a** off about groups that YOU used to be a part of and you know damn well that Innomen's inner circle isnt a secret and isnt a DDO elite

Please show evidence of this.
Also, I never said the Inner Circle was a secret, only that it is indeed a type of DDO Elite, which it is.

9) "While I believe innomen is an excellent president, I feel he relies too heavily on his "Inner Circle" "

And your policy is what? abolish a board of trusted advisers to rule DDO like an absolute dictater? we have FREEDO running on that platform, its kind of sad to see someone try to campaign using that stance, but do it seriously

*sigh*
Again, please read what I actually wrote rather than strawmanning me. I would deal with private issues privately and public issues publicly.

10) " There is no need for an Inner Circle."

Based on your own opinion maybe. But what happens when your asleep and at work for 3/4 of the day while DDO stays running? Who watches over DDO when your not on?

What happens when innomen is asleep or at work? I thought you were smarter than this imabench. Your objections just reek of a keyboard warrior seeing red that I questioned his benevolent leader's actions and going on the offensive.
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5/13/2012 9:14:30 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 9:12:30 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
At 5/13/2012 9:11:49 PM, Koopin wrote:

If only writerdave were here!

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5/13/2012 9:14:56 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 9:13:15 PM, imabench wrote:
I would like to make note that when TV said the DDO elite is

" They're called "The Inner Circle" and it's unashamedly innomen's 'little club'"

that TV conveniently left out the fact that he was ONE OF THE PEOPLE IN THE INNER CIRCLE.....

No I didn't. What are you talking about? *facepalm*
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5/13/2012 9:15:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
TV how do you run a campaign against the DDO elite when the DDO elite doesnt exist and even if it did then YOU would be part of the DDO elite?

Wouldnt that be a form of suicide?

(someone already told a WriterDave joke so I cant make a joke about that)
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5/13/2012 9:16:12 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 9:09:56 PM, thett3 wrote:
Question: What is the official campaign song of the TV campaign?
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5/13/2012 9:20:19 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 9:13:26 PM, darkkermit wrote:
I also find it amusing that this is the first complaint that tv has made about the inner circle when he's been a member of it the entire time. Tvellalott never once complained about innomen posting IP addresses in the inner circle. Yet now all of a sudden its a huge controversial issue that Tv will have no part in. Seems a bit hypocritical if you ask me.

I agree. In fact, I even said I was a hypocrite in the OP.
Now that the election is coming and innomen is increasingly distancing himself from me, I think I should express how I feel about it. I have no illusions about the uphill battle it is to make anyone see innomen as anything but perfect and thus stand any chance in this election.
I myself thought he was a moderator without peer. I thought the IP addresses weren't a big deal. THEN, we had the whole "tv must not be elected at any cost because he'll unban big bad askbob" crap and I quickly changed my tune. I've become disillusioned. Sorry that you still see rainbows and sunshine.
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5/13/2012 9:21:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 9:15:35 PM, imabench wrote:
TV how do you run a campaign against the DDO elite when the DDO elite doesnt exist and even if it did then YOU would be part of the DDO elite?

Stop strawmanning me imabench. It's pathetic.
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5/13/2012 9:22:10 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
QUESTION: What steps would you take to implement the new BIG Issues efficiently?

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5/13/2012 9:22:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Troll question:

Are you going to keep the cake a lie? If so, how?

Actual question:

You are currently in third place in the race. How are you going to ascend Mt. Jimtimmy?
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5/13/2012 9:22:25 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 9:16:12 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 5/13/2012 9:09:56 PM, thett3 wrote:
Question: What is the official campaign song of the TV campaign?
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5/13/2012 9:23:30 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 9:21:16 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 5/13/2012 9:15:35 PM, imabench wrote:
TV how do you run a campaign against the DDO elite when the DDO elite doesnt exist and even if it did then YOU would be part of the DDO elite?

Stop strawmanning me imabench. It's pathetic.

were you or were you not a part of the inner circle, the same that you called the DDO elite?
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5/13/2012 9:23:38 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 9:22:10 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
QUESTION: What steps would you take to implement the new BIG Issues efficiently?

None. Koopin has submitted the democratically decided changes to the Big Issues to Juggle. Now, we can only wait.
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5/13/2012 9:24:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 9:16:12 PM, thett3 wrote:

Question: What is the official campaign song of the TV campaign?
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5/13/2012 9:25:05 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 9:20:19 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 5/13/2012 9:13:26 PM, darkkermit wrote:
I also find it amusing that this is the first complaint that tv has made about the inner circle when he's been a member of it the entire time. Tvellalott never once complained about innomen posting IP addresses in the inner circle. Yet now all of a sudden its a huge controversial issue that Tv will have no part in. Seems a bit hypocritical if you ask me.

I agree. In fact, I even said I was a hypocrite in the OP.
Now that the election is coming and innomen is increasingly distancing himself from me, I think I should express how I feel about it. I have no illusions about the uphill battle it is to make anyone see innomen as anything but perfect and thus stand any chance in this election.
I myself thought he was a moderator without peer. I thought the IP addresses weren't a big deal. THEN, we had the whole "tv must not be elected at any cost because he'll unban big bad askbob" crap and I quickly changed my tune. I've become disillusioned. Sorry that you still see rainbows and sunshine.

So then really this isn't really so much that you believe that innomen's principle's are wrong. You just doing this because your pissed off at him. So let the record be clear that you have absolutely no integrety at all and just using this as mudslinging.

See the difference between what innomen did was that innomen was actually against the policy of askbob being unbanned. Your not against innomen's policies you just want to use it to smear him.
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5/13/2012 9:27:08 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
"many IP addresses were released over the multiple 'Inner Circle' PM's that I was included in."

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5/13/2012 9:27:56 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/13/2012 9:23:38 PM, tvellalott wrote:
At 5/13/2012 9:22:10 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
QUESTION: What steps would you take to implement the new BIG Issues efficiently?

None. Koopin has submitted the democratically decided changes to the Big Issues to Juggle. Now, we can only wait.

No further communication, no planning for the individual issue pages? Cool.
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