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WriterDave
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5/14/2012 2:34:36 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I regret having caused such a large and dramatic thread in this forum. I also regret reacting as I did to the certain people who were insulting me about a very sensitive area in my life. Given the chance, I would not do these things over again.

But that's not an apology. An apology is only an apology if you regret your action in such a way that you would seek remedial action regardless of consequence or sanction. I really only regret doing what I did because of the consequences to myself. A thread that's reached almost a thousand posts. Debates and "trial" planning threads about my own emotional competency. Who wants that?

I do not not regret trying to bring basic civility to these forums, and I will continue to do so. The way that I have been was not working, even though I think I've been perfectly reasonable and have responded to all substantive objections to my approach. But as Oryus convinced me, that kind of thing only works if you actually change minds, which arguments and debates rarely do. (That's not exactly what she was arguing, but it's what I took from it.) So I'll try different approaches, some within the context of DDO, some outside of it.

Nor do I regret my reactions to the askbob event the other night, the event in which askbob encouraged me to commit suicide. My reaction to that was appropriate given the circumstances, both in my life and in the forums, and turned out to be something of an epiphany for my mental well-being. For once, I took a stand, and that was hugely important to me personally. If you didn't support me and stand by me in that thread, that's something you own.

Having said all that, if I can figure out how bluesteel's script works, I'll be using it in extreme cases. I'll make a good faith attempt to reduce the amount of drama I cause around here. And if you want the ETC thread to reach a thousand posts, sorry, but you'll have to do it yourself. :-)
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5/14/2012 2:40:19 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Excuse me, I didn't actually . . . oh, forget it. Thanks.
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5/14/2012 2:46:36 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
So, other than saying "fvck y'all, I'd do it again, but I don't want you fascists to ban me" what have you accomplished in this thread?
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5/14/2012 2:50:28 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/14/2012 2:46:36 PM, Wnope wrote:
So, other than saying "fvck y'all, I'd do it again, but I don't want you fascists to ban me" what have you accomplished in this thread?

What I sought to accomplish with this thread was simply to explain my present stance with regard to DDO. In your case, I clearly failed, unless your dislike of me is so strong that you deliberately put those words in my mouth, in which case I think I was clear.
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5/14/2012 2:57:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/14/2012 2:50:28 PM, WriterDave wrote:
At 5/14/2012 2:46:36 PM, Wnope wrote:
So, other than saying "fvck y'all, I'd do it again, but I don't want you fascists to ban me" what have you accomplished in this thread?

What I sought to accomplish with this thread was simply to explain my present stance with regard to DDO. In your case, I clearly failed, unless your dislike of me is so strong that you deliberately put those words in my mouth, in which case I think I was clear.

" An apology is only an apology if you regret your action in such a way that you would seek remedial action regardless of consequence or sanction. I really only regret doing what I did because of the consequences to myself."

This means "I am not apologizing because I subtly threatened to use a lawyer to shut this site down if I don't get what I want, I am only sorry that you tried to punish me."

Or will you maintain the ridiculous stance that your constant references to lawyers had nothing to do with threatening legal action?
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5/14/2012 2:58:31 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
can we drag this back into the other thread so that it can break 1000 posts?
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5/14/2012 3:00:09 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Okay, new policy: from now on, I am only addressing responses to things that I said, not responses to things that other people say I said.
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5/14/2012 3:01:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
You'll be in my good graces when you come out with how utterly self-centered and narcissistic your campaign has been to deal with personal demons through threatening the viability of a debate website with KNOWINGLY trivial lawsuits.

Unless you have absolutely no idea what you are saying, you were willing to destroy this entire website (because trust me, Juggle will not put down the money to save this site if he needs a lawyer) because someone called you fat. Your hissy-fit about being civil was non-existent until you were PERSONALLY attacked.
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5/14/2012 3:02:03 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/14/2012 3:00:09 PM, WriterDave wrote:
Okay, new policy: from now on, I am only addressing responses to things that I said, not responses to things that other people say I said.

If you apologize for your actions, I'll retract my statements 100%.

You haven't.
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5/14/2012 3:04:19 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Dear God, this site has gotten Sofa King ghey. More unnecessary drama than a Jersey Shore episode.
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5/14/2012 3:04:46 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I don't really care if you retract your statements or not. :-)
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5/14/2012 3:05:27 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/14/2012 3:04:19 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
Dear God, this site has gotten Sofa King ghey. More unnecessary drama than a Jersey Shore episode.

I take great offense to you using "gay" in a negative connotation sir!
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5/14/2012 3:09:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/14/2012 3:04:46 PM, WriterDave wrote:
I don't really care if you retract your statements or not. :-)

So you see nothing wrong with fighting personal vendettas by using the threat of legal action to destroy websites used by hundreds of people daily?
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5/14/2012 3:11:47 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/14/2012 3:05:27 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 5/14/2012 3:04:19 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
Dear God, this site has gotten Sofa King ghey. More unnecessary drama than a Jersey Shore episode.

I take great offense to you using "gay" in a negative connotation sir!:

My bad. Wanna make out in the alley? :)
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5/14/2012 3:13:33 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/14/2012 3:11:47 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
At 5/14/2012 3:05:27 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 5/14/2012 3:04:19 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
Dear God, this site has gotten Sofa King ghey. More unnecessary drama than a Jersey Shore episode.

I take great offense to you using "gay" in a negative connotation sir!:

My bad. Wanna make out in the alley? :)

I take great offense to you soliciting sexual activity from someone underage! Reported.
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"You fit the character of Regina George quite nicely"- Sam

: At 11/12/2016 11:49:40 PM, Raisor wrote:
: thett was right
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5/14/2012 3:14:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
http://i50.tinypic.com...
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: At 11/12/2016 11:49:40 PM, Raisor wrote:
: thett was right
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5/14/2012 3:15:53 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/14/2012 3:15:15 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 5/14/2012 3:14:02 PM, thett3 wrote:
http://i50.tinypic.com...
LOL!

Koopin made it, I forgot to say that
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: At 11/12/2016 11:49:40 PM, Raisor wrote:
: thett was right
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5/14/2012 3:18:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/14/2012 3:13:33 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 5/14/2012 3:11:47 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
At 5/14/2012 3:05:27 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 5/14/2012 3:04:19 PM, PARADIGM_L0ST wrote:
Dear God, this site has gotten Sofa King ghey. More unnecessary drama than a Jersey Shore episode.

I take great offense to you using "gay" in a negative connotation sir!:

My bad. Wanna make out in the alley? :)

I take great offense to you soliciting sexual activity from someone underage! Reported.:

I swear your honor, he told me he was 30!!!
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5/14/2012 3:24:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/14/2012 3:18:35 PM, innomen wrote:
It's just a matter of time until the next melt down.:

That's the feeling I'm getting too. Would not surprise me in the least if he weilds suicidal ideations like a weapon to elicit sympathy.
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5/14/2012 3:37:03 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
y so srs?
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5/14/2012 3:53:41 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/14/2012 3:18:35 PM, innomen wrote:
It's just a matter of time until the next melt down.

You just love making predictions like that. "He'll be back at some point." "He'll do this at some point, I guarantee that." If it doesn't happen, nobody remembers, but if it does happen, why, you're a veritable prophet!

How about adding a time frame to your prophecy? Such as, "It's only three months or less until the next meltdown"? That way there's a falsifiability criterion, and your prophecy, if it comes true, will be all the more impressive. And, as a bonus, I might just impress one or two people by proving you wrong.
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5/14/2012 4:06:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/14/2012 3:53:41 PM, WriterDave wrote:
At 5/14/2012 3:18:35 PM, innomen wrote:
It's just a matter of time until the next melt down.

You just love making predictions like that. "He'll be back at some point." "He'll do this at some point, I guarantee that." If it doesn't happen, nobody remembers, but if it does happen, why, you're a veritable prophet!

How about adding a time frame to your prophecy? Such as, "It's only three months or less until the next meltdown"? That way there's a falsifiability criterion, and your prophecy, if it comes true, will be all the more impressive. And, as a bonus, I might just impress one or two people by proving you wrong.

He guaranteed you'd be back.

You're back.

He said you're just aiming to get attention.

That's just what this thread is.

What has Inno predicted about you that has not come true?