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JuliaD
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5/14/2012 3:54:37 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
DDO'ers,

I wanted to take time to let you know about some exciting developments that will impact Debate.org. We have reprioritized some of our projects at Juggle and decided to dedicate internal resources toward the development of Debate.org.

What does that mean? Over the next couple of months you will see updates to the site including new features, updates to existing features and resolution of some of the persistent functionality bugs. I will provide more details on each update as we get closer to its release date.

The first release will be an update to the Big Issues. We have heard your requests and will make updates to that section of the site based off of the feedback you have provided.

Juggle's vision for the site has not changed since we originally purchased the site in 2010. We did not purchase the site to monetize it through advertisements. We bought Debate.org because we see the value of the community itself. The members, debates, forums and traffic are each incredibly valuable in their own right. While internal priorities and resource allocation decisions have kept from making continued development contributions to the site in the past, we have both the plans and resources to make updates that will help grow the site and the community.

Within the next couple of weeks expect to see more information coming from me detailing the updates to the Big Issues.

Thank you for your support and patience as we work to improve the site for everyone.

Julia
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5/14/2012 3:56:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
WOOT!

Glad you guys are updating stuff. :)
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5/14/2012 3:57:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!

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5/14/2012 3:57:52 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Two things:

Does that last bit mean your harvesting our threads and stuff?

And second, you should just out Julia in your sig. :P
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5/14/2012 3:58:45 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/14/2012 3:57:12 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
What are some of these features?

Big Issues is first. Hoping for a History Forum, and perhaps the removal of some forums.
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5/14/2012 3:59:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/14/2012 3:58:45 PM, FREEDO wrote:
You are so sexy, Julia.

FREEDO has been Mod-Killed.
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5/14/2012 4:01:48 PM
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Putting aside the main issue every here knows I champion, I have three words for Julia: Optional Scoreless Debates!
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5/14/2012 4:02:42 PM
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At 5/14/2012 4:01:48 PM, WriterDave wrote:
Putting aside the main issue every here knows I champion, I have three words for Julia: Optional Scoreless Debates!

I actually would enjoy this a lot. And team debates.
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5/14/2012 4:03:22 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/14/2012 4:02:42 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 5/14/2012 4:01:48 PM, WriterDave wrote:
Putting aside the main issue every here knows I champion, I have three words for Julia: Optional Scoreless Debates!

I actually would enjoy this a lot. And team debates.

Yes!! Team Debates!!
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5/14/2012 4:07:34 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I like the idea of scoreless debates. It prevents votebombing and allows me to debate controversial ideas that would otherwise give me automatic losses.
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5/14/2012 4:07:46 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/14/2012 4:01:48 PM, WriterDave wrote:
Putting aside the main issue every here knows I champion, I have three words for Julia: Optional Scoreless Debates!

We call that

FORUM THREADS.
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5/14/2012 4:07:59 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/14/2012 4:01:48 PM, WriterDave wrote:
Putting aside the main issue every here knows I champion, I have three words for Julia: Optional Scoreless Debates!

"No-one vote on this debate please"

Copy and past that to your opening round. Problem solved.
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5/14/2012 4:08:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/14/2012 4:01:48 PM, WriterDave wrote:
Putting aside the main issue every here knows I champion, I have three words for Julia: Optional Scoreless Debates!

Meh.

At 5/14/2012 4:03:22 PM, WriterDave wrote:
At 5/14/2012 4:02:42 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 5/14/2012 4:01:48 PM, WriterDave wrote:
Putting aside the main issue every here knows I champion, I have three words for Julia: Optional Scoreless Debates!

I actually would enjoy this a lot. And team debates.

Yes!! Team Debates!!

GOD YES. That would be one of the most important updates we ever receive.
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5/14/2012 4:09:43 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/14/2012 4:09:00 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Thett and I are a permanent team :)

*rolls eyes*
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imabench
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5/14/2012 4:11:23 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/14/2012 4:07:46 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 5/14/2012 4:01:48 PM, WriterDave wrote:
Putting aside the main issue every here knows I champion, I have three words for Julia: Optional Scoreless Debates!

We call that

FORUM THREADS.

i just troll :P
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imabench
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5/14/2012 4:11:59 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/14/2012 4:10:51 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 5/14/2012 4:09:00 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Thett and I are a permanent team :)

As long as no one makes you mad enough to leave the site again.

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imabench
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5/14/2012 4:12:12 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/14/2012 4:11:59 PM, imabench wrote:
At 5/14/2012 4:10:51 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 5/14/2012 4:09:00 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
Thett and I are a permanent team :)

As long as no one makes you mad enough to leave the site again.

*royalpaladin's account has been closed*

fixed it
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WriterDave
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5/14/2012 5:02:59 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/14/2012 4:07:46 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 5/14/2012 4:01:48 PM, WriterDave wrote:
Putting aside the main issue every here knows I champion, I have three words for Julia: Optional Scoreless Debates!

We call that

FORUM THREADS.

Forum threads are such that anyone can jump in and there's no restrictions on number of posts.
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5/14/2012 5:03:44 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/14/2012 4:07:59 PM, phantom wrote:
At 5/14/2012 4:01:48 PM, WriterDave wrote:
Putting aside the main issue every here knows I champion, I have three words for Julia: Optional Scoreless Debates!

"No-one vote on this debate please"

Copy and past that to your opening round. Problem solved.

A decent band-aid solution, but it can't counter last-minute vote bombing.
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5/14/2012 5:12:22 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Thanks Julia!

Also, Yay on Team Debates, Nay on Scoreless debates. The whole purpose of debates is to test intellectual wit. You cannot test your wit nor measure your potentiality if nobody is judging you. Otherwise, it is simply a discussion, which can be done in the forums or in a specific thread, for which you only advocate your opponent and yourself posting in it.
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5/14/2012 5:17:08 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Thank you!
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5/14/2012 5:18:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/14/2012 5:12:22 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
Thanks Julia!

Also, Yay on Team Debates, Nay on Scoreless debates. The whole purpose of debates is to test intellectual wit. You cannot test your wit nor measure your potentiality if nobody is judging you. Otherwise, it is simply a discussion, which can be done in the forums or in a specific thread, for which you only advocate your opponent and yourself posting in it.

That is one possible primary function of debates. Another is expressing in a highlighted and structured fashion an exchange of ideas, thereby educating people and increasing the quality of subsequent discussion, as well as avoiding the subjectivity and system-gaming that scored debates are often associated with. Doing this in a forum thread could not exclude other people who wanted to post there, and without a set post limit it would devolve into tangential and nonproductive content unless it was broken down into sub-issues. That's why, some time ago, I advocated Brin's Disputation Arena idea as a debate format.
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