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cameronl35
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5/18/2012 11:34:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Hello all,

It's been a long time since I've been active on this website and I plan on integrating myself back into that DDO spirit! I want to further my debating skills for my high school team so I was interested in doing some LD style debates on DDO. This would include a value, value criterion, theories, kritiks, or any type of LD-related arguments. Let me know if you're interested! PM me or comment on this thread.

Sincerely,
Cameron
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5/18/2012 11:50:06 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Well post some topics that you are pushing for! XD
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5/18/2012 11:59:08 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/18/2012 11:50:06 PM, 16kadams wrote:
Well post some topics that you are pushing for! XD

Hell, they're plenty of topics I can debate.

Sept/Oct 2011
Nov/Dec 2011
Jan/Feb 2012
Mar/Apr 2012
Texas Spring UIL 2012
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cameronl35
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5/19/2012 12:33:47 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/18/2012 11:49:29 PM, Zaradi wrote:
Can I marry you?

You need to wait in line first!
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5/19/2012 12:35:08 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/18/2012 11:59:08 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 5/18/2012 11:50:06 PM, 16kadams wrote:
Well post some topics that you are pushing for! XD

Hell, they're plenty of topics I can debate.

Sept/Oct 2011
Nov/Dec 2011
Jan/Feb 2012
Mar/Apr 2012
Texas Spring UIL 2012

Those are college resolutions right?
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cameronl35
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5/19/2012 12:38:13 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/19/2012 12:35:25 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 5/18/2012 11:49:29 PM, Zaradi wrote:
Can I marry you?

Lol yeah, finally found your LD buddy.

Blackvoid, where have you been my whole life..
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5/19/2012 12:40:17 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/19/2012 12:38:13 AM, cameronl35 wrote:
At 5/19/2012 12:35:25 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 5/18/2012 11:49:29 PM, Zaradi wrote:
Can I marry you?

Lol yeah, finally found your LD buddy.

Blackvoid, where have you been my whole life..

In alien captivity the first 17 years of my life. What you see now is the result of countless experiments....
cameronl35
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5/19/2012 12:44:35 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/19/2012 12:40:17 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 5/19/2012 12:38:13 AM, cameronl35 wrote:
At 5/19/2012 12:35:25 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 5/18/2012 11:49:29 PM, Zaradi wrote:
Can I marry you?

Lol yeah, finally found your LD buddy.

Blackvoid, where have you been my whole life..

In alien captivity the first 17 years of my life. What you see now is the result of countless experiments....

Now that's a concrete explanation for your absurdity!
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5/19/2012 12:53:18 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I can try to learn LD to debate in that form with you if you'd like. Is there a website to look at the rules and etiquette for LD debate?
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5/19/2012 1:00:43 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/19/2012 12:35:08 AM, cameronl35 wrote:
At 5/18/2012 11:59:08 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 5/18/2012 11:50:06 PM, 16kadams wrote:
Well post some topics that you are pushing for! XD

Hell, they're plenty of topics I can debate.

Sept/Oct 2011
Nov/Dec 2011
Jan/Feb 2012
Mar/Apr 2012
Texas Spring UIL 2012

Those are college resolutions right?

The NFL ones. If that's not college, then I'm unfamiliar with what you're talking about.
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5/19/2012 1:01:48 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/19/2012 12:53:18 AM, socialpinko wrote:
I can try to learn LD to debate in that form with you if you'd like. Is there a website to look at the rules and etiquette for LD debate?

I can try to find one, but it's kind of hard to grasp just by reading out of a book over the Internet.
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5/19/2012 1:03:22 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/19/2012 1:01:48 AM, Zaradi wrote:
At 5/19/2012 12:53:18 AM, socialpinko wrote:
I can try to learn LD to debate in that form with you if you'd like. Is there a website to look at the rules and etiquette for LD debate?

I can try to find one, but it's kind of hard to grasp just by reading out of a book over the Internet.

That's the only way I learn ;)
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: : At 9/29/2014 9:43:46 AM, kbub wrote:
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: : DDO should discredit support of sexual violence at any time and in every way.
:
: I disagree.
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5/19/2012 1:05:53 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/19/2012 1:01:48 AM, Zaradi wrote:
At 5/19/2012 12:53:18 AM, socialpinko wrote:
I can try to learn LD to debate in that form with you if you'd like. Is there a website to look at the rules and etiquette for LD debate?

I can try to find one, but it's kind of hard to grasp just by reading out of a book over the Internet.

Not really, the only difference basically is that all your arguments have to be under the same framework. Unless Cam also wants to impose specific character limits based off speech times.
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5/19/2012 1:06:03 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/19/2012 1:03:22 AM, socialpinko wrote:
At 5/19/2012 1:01:48 AM, Zaradi wrote:
At 5/19/2012 12:53:18 AM, socialpinko wrote:
I can try to learn LD to debate in that form with you if you'd like. Is there a website to look at the rules and etiquette for LD debate?

I can try to find one, but it's kind of hard to grasp just by reading out of a book over the Internet.

That's the only way I learn ;)

Haha well then I'll try to find you something and explain whatever the book/page fails to get right.
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OberHerr
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5/19/2012 1:07:31 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Zaradi:

*reads thread name + OP*

*jizzes out*
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Zaradi
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5/19/2012 1:08:12 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/19/2012 1:05:53 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
At 5/19/2012 1:01:48 AM, Zaradi wrote:
At 5/19/2012 12:53:18 AM, socialpinko wrote:
I can try to learn LD to debate in that form with you if you'd like. Is there a website to look at the rules and etiquette for LD debate?

I can try to find one, but it's kind of hard to grasp just by reading out of a book over the Internet.

Not really, the only difference basically is that all your arguments have to be under the same framework. Unless Cam also wants to impose specific character limits based off speech times.

Eh, but even that can be a bit confusing when you have to orient things in terms of values and criterions for people who are just getting started. Either that, or I'm horrible at explaining it, which is highly plausible.

And if we were to do character limits based on speech times, my cases would be over 8000
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5/19/2012 1:08:54 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/19/2012 1:07:31 AM, OberHerr wrote:
Zaradi:

*reads thread name + OP*

*jizzes out*

Ober! Jeeze, talk about just blabbing it out to everyone ;)
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Mestari
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5/19/2012 1:11:29 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I never understood the point of doing structured LD debates on this site. Why not have, y'know, an actual debate?
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5/19/2012 1:16:22 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/19/2012 1:11:29 AM, Mestari wrote:
I never understood the point of doing structured LD debates on this site. Why not have, y'know, an actual debate?

Mostly just for practice and testing concepts for case ideas. You don't want to come up with a case and run it at a tournament, only to realize that it's absolute sh!t. For the poor small schools (like mine), we don't get to be able to practice debating every day, so here is as decent a place to do it as ever.
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5/19/2012 1:20:02 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Then why not do a video debate where you can mimic LD time structures and practice your presentation (or spreading)?
Rules of Mafia

1. Mestari is never third party.
2. If Mestari claims an intricate and page long TP role, he's telling the truth.
3. Mestari always jointly wins with the town.
3b. If he doesn't he's mafia.
3c. If he was mafia you wouldn't suspect him in the first place.
4. If you lynch Mestari you will lose because he will be the third party Doctor or some other townie power role.
5. DP1 lynches are good.
6. The answer is always no.
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5/19/2012 1:22:10 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/19/2012 1:20:02 AM, Mestari wrote:
Then why not do a video debate where you can mimic LD time structures and practice your presentation (or spreading)?

Because, as is plainly obvious, not many people on this site do LD, and probably wouldn't be able to keep up with a spreaded LD round.

Although the concept of video LD debates is appealing (I've actually considered setting one up before) it's a bit inconvenient still.
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5/19/2012 1:24:20 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Sure, but you cite practice as the justification for doing LD debates online, not votes.
Rules of Mafia

1. Mestari is never third party.
2. If Mestari claims an intricate and page long TP role, he's telling the truth.
3. Mestari always jointly wins with the town.
3b. If he doesn't he's mafia.
3c. If he was mafia you wouldn't suspect him in the first place.
4. If you lynch Mestari you will lose because he will be the third party Doctor or some other townie power role.
5. DP1 lynches are good.
6. The answer is always no.
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5/19/2012 1:25:30 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/19/2012 1:24:20 AM, Mestari wrote:
Sure, but you cite practice as the justification for doing LD debates online, not votes.

Yes? The reason I joined this site originally was to help me prepare for a tournament.
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5/19/2012 1:27:17 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/19/2012 1:25:38 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
I was typing up a quick rundown of LD style, but it was getting into 8 paragraph territory so I said fugg it.

Quick rundown of LD? Da FAQ is that?
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5/19/2012 1:28:26 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/19/2012 12:53:18 AM, socialpinko wrote:
I can try to learn LD to debate in that form with you if you'd like. Is there a website to look at the rules and etiquette for LD debate?

This might help http://debate.uvm.edu...(NFL).pdf
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5/19/2012 1:29:00 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/19/2012 1:27:17 AM, Zaradi wrote:
At 5/19/2012 1:25:38 AM, BlackVoid wrote:
I was typing up a quick rundown of LD style, but it was getting into 8 paragraph territory so I said fugg it.

Quick rundown of LD? Da FAQ is that?

Lie Detector.
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5/19/2012 1:30:16 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 5/19/2012 1:28:26 AM, cameronl35 wrote:
At 5/19/2012 12:53:18 AM, socialpinko wrote:
I can try to learn LD to debate in that form with you if you'd like. Is there a website to look at the rules and etiquette for LD debate?

This might help http://debate.uvm.edu...(NFL).pdf

Link didn't work. Click on Intro to LD on this page:
http://debate.uvm.edu...
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"MLK day is simply racism against whites."
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