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6/4/2012 9:40:20 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
My_old_age and mee2kool4u369 are soon to be wed. If you think that we're buying that picture of Sophia Loren, and that other guy as legit avatars, I just don't buy it. I'm sure these are multi's of a user here, but I don't have hard evidence of it. The two share the same IP addresses, because they live together - pffft. What crap. I really am close to just closing both accounts, but it's sheer suspicion.

Isn't there a member who has a history of having the elderly support him, allegedly, who was that again...?

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6/4/2012 9:42:36 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I know the guy via this as freinds, but there is no "helping" involved.

*im not sure I buy it either*
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6/4/2012 9:45:05 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/4/2012 9:42:36 AM, 16kadams wrote:
I know the guy via this as freinds, but there is no "helping" involved.

*im not sure I buy it either*

I also don't believe Oliver Puck.
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6/4/2012 9:46:30 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
On mee's profile he seems legit

On my debate with his "wife" (an open challenge btw) he seemed to know she would FF.

--> ?????
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6/4/2012 9:47:28 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Yeah, those avatars are certainly fake.

Looking at the voting record, it is almost certain that they are vBombers and multicoutns.
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6/4/2012 9:47:56 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/4/2012 9:45:05 AM, innomen wrote:
At 6/4/2012 9:42:36 AM, 16kadams wrote:
I know the guy via this as freinds, but there is no "helping" involved.

*im not sure I buy it either*

I also don't believe Oliver Puck.

Are you having problems with these members? Why did you post this in mod mode?
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6/4/2012 9:48:28 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/4/2012 9:47:28 AM, Microsuck wrote:
Yeah, those avatars are certainly fake.

Looking at the voting record, it is almost certain that they are vBombers and multicoutns.

They are vbers
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6/4/2012 9:48:57 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/4/2012 9:48:28 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 6/4/2012 9:47:28 AM, Microsuck wrote:
Yeah, those avatars are certainly fake.

Looking at the voting record, it is almost certain that they are vBombers and multicoutns.

They are vbers

On that note, close their account based upon that
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6/4/2012 9:49:21 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/4/2012 9:47:56 AM, Microsuck wrote:
At 6/4/2012 9:45:05 AM, innomen wrote:
At 6/4/2012 9:42:36 AM, 16kadams wrote:
I know the guy via this as freinds, but there is no "helping" involved.

*im not sure I buy it either*

I also don't believe Oliver Puck.

Are you having problems with these members? Why did you post this in mod mode?

When I'm investigating it's a pain to jump in and out of the two modes. I cannot investigate with innomen, just when I put my superpowers on with the special password and special URL.
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6/4/2012 9:49:56 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/4/2012 9:48:57 AM, Microsuck wrote:
At 6/4/2012 9:48:28 AM, 16kadams wrote:
At 6/4/2012 9:47:28 AM, Microsuck wrote:
Yeah, those avatars are certainly fake.

Looking at the voting record, it is almost certain that they are vBombers and multicoutns.

They are vbers

On that note, close their account based upon that

That's not against the TOS

Ban one saying you had a reason and see if they sprout up again
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6/4/2012 9:50:12 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/4/2012 9:49:21 AM, Forum Moderator wrote:
At 6/4/2012 9:47:56 AM, Microsuck wrote:
At 6/4/2012 9:45:05 AM, innomen wrote:
At 6/4/2012 9:42:36 AM, 16kadams wrote:
I know the guy via this as freinds, but there is no "helping" involved.

*im not sure I buy it either*

I also don't believe Oliver Puck.

Are you having problems with these members? Why did you post this in mod mode?

When I'm investigating it's a pain to jump in and out of the two modes. I cannot investigate with innomen, just when I put my superpowers on with the special password and special URL.

Ah that explains it.
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"you [imabench] are very naive and so i do not consider your opinions as having any merit. you must still be in highschool" - falconduler
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6/4/2012 9:53:40 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
IP check the members online and see if you can link them
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6/4/2012 9:53:52 AM
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It may not be in the ToS, but it certainly violates the conduct that any debater here expects, and my guess is that most debaters here would rather have fraudulent multi accounts that are used to cheat and steal debates be banned than any article in the ToS. I find fraudulent voting to be pretty despicable and very bannable.
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6/4/2012 9:54:19 AM
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At 6/4/2012 9:53:52 AM, Forum Moderator wrote:
It may not be in the ToS, but it certainly violates the conduct that any debater here expects, and my guess is that most debaters here would rather have fraudulent multi accounts that are used to cheat and steal debates be banned than any article in the ToS. I find fraudulent voting to be pretty despicable and very bannable.

I thought we recently updated it to make sure it was in there against vbombing.
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Newsflash: I doesnt matter if you think you do or not.....You do - SD

"you [imabench] are very naive and so i do not consider your opinions as having any merit. you must still be in highschool" - falconduler
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6/4/2012 9:55:24 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/4/2012 9:53:52 AM, Forum Moderator wrote:
It may not be in the ToS, but it certainly violates the conduct that any debater here expects, and my guess is that most debaters here would rather have fraudulent multi accounts that are used to cheat and steal debates be banned than any article in the ToS. I find fraudulent voting to be pretty despicable and very bannable.

Good point
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6/4/2012 9:56:00 AM
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At 6/4/2012 9:54:19 AM, Microsuck wrote:
At 6/4/2012 9:53:52 AM, Forum Moderator wrote:
It may not be in the ToS, but it certainly violates the conduct that any debater here expects, and my guess is that most debaters here would rather have fraudulent multi accounts that are used to cheat and steal debates be banned than any article in the ToS. I find fraudulent voting to be pretty despicable and very bannable.

I thought we recently updated it to make sure it was in there against vbombing.

I don't remember, regardless it won't be tolerated. I really don't care about multi's until they have the ability to vote.
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6/4/2012 9:57:53 AM
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At 6/4/2012 9:56:00 AM, innomen wrote:
At 6/4/2012 9:54:19 AM, Microsuck wrote:
At 6/4/2012 9:53:52 AM, Forum Moderator wrote:
It may not be in the ToS, but it certainly violates the conduct that any debater here expects, and my guess is that most debaters here would rather have fraudulent multi accounts that are used to cheat and steal debates be banned than any article in the ToS. I find fraudulent voting to be pretty despicable and very bannable.

I thought we recently updated it to make sure it was in there against vbombing.

I don't remember, regardless it won't be tolerated. I really don't care about multi's until they have the ability to vote.

We did but it said a warning.

Warn them (probably one) to stop voting.
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6/4/2012 10:02:01 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Posted by mee2kool4u369 9 hours ago
If my wife feels offended she will forfeit.
(my debate)

Wtf
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6/4/2012 10:03:55 AM
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If this goes to trial (assuming it does as this is debatable) can I be prosecution (or one of them) as I know him via DDO fairly well?
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6/4/2012 10:45:41 AM
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At 6/4/2012 10:02:01 AM, 16kadams wrote:
Posted by mee2kool4u369 9 hours ago
If my wife feels offended she will forfeit.
(my debate)

Wtf

I can't stand people like that.
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"you [imabench] are very naive and so i do not consider your opinions as having any merit. you must still be in highschool" - falconduler
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6/4/2012 10:46:05 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Wow lol.
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6/4/2012 11:25:32 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I got a solution.

Ask them not to vote on each other's debates. (This is for future events as well)
Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. Teach him how to be Gay, he'll positively influence the GDP.

Social Contract Theory debate: http://www.debate.org...
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6/4/2012 11:27:42 AM
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At 6/4/2012 9:49:21 AM, Forum Moderator wrote:
At 6/4/2012 9:47:56 AM, Microsuck wrote:
At 6/4/2012 9:45:05 AM, innomen wrote:
At 6/4/2012 9:42:36 AM, 16kadams wrote:
I know the guy via this as freinds, but there is no "helping" involved.

*im not sure I buy it either*

I also don't believe Oliver Puck.

Are you having problems with these members? Why did you post this in mod mode?

When I'm investigating it's a pain to jump in and out of the two modes. I cannot investigate with innomen, just when I put my superpowers on with the special password and special URL.

So it's like batman....
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6/4/2012 11:35:33 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Profile comments says they met on this website...
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6/4/2012 11:37:45 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I have literally never seen or spoken to these people/person.
: : :Tulle: The fool, I purposely don't engage with you because you don't have proper command of the English language.
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: : The Fool: It's my English writing. Either way It's okay have a larger vocabulary then you, and a better grasp of language, and you're a woman.
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: I'm just going to leave this precious struggle nugget right here.
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6/4/2012 11:43:08 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/4/2012 11:35:33 AM, phantom wrote:
Profile comments says they met on this website...

Look at my gun debate, suspicious
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6/4/2012 12:25:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
It is such utter bull, and I cannot believe anyone on this site believes for a moment that it's anyone but one of our regular users. How many elderly women do you know that are into debate? Elderly men, maybe one or two here and there, but really? Oh and by the way, 16K just has this thing with being friends with all these elderly users.
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6/4/2012 12:27:57 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/4/2012 12:25:02 PM, innomen wrote:
It is such utter bull, and I cannot believe anyone on this site believes for a moment that it's anyone but one of our regular users. How many elderly women do you know that are into debate? Elderly men, maybe one or two here and there, but really? Oh and by the way, 16K just has this thing with being friends with all these elderly users.

Another interesting note is that their language and style is virtually the same. Compare a few sentences and their debates and you will find that they sound almost exactly alike.
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"you [imabench] are very naive and so i do not consider your opinions as having any merit. you must still be in highschool" - falconduler