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Microsuck
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6/17/2012 7:28:32 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
With the election coming up, I'm interested in starting a SINGLE ELIMINATION TOURNAMENT where the debate focuses around areas of interest to politics.

Examples:

1. Gary Johnson would be a good President if Elected;
2. Obama's Healthcare Law is Unconstitutional;
3. Obama has hurt the economy more than he has helped (or vice versa);

These are, of course, just examples. Other ideas would be to go into economics such as flat tax vs. fair tax.

Sign up:

1. Microsuck
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Tournament starts when 12 people have signed up.
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Devil worship much? - SD
Newsflash: Atheists do not believe in the Devil! - Me
Newsflash: I doesnt matter if you think you do or not.....You do - SD

"you [imabench] are very naive and so i do not consider your opinions as having any merit. you must still be in highschool" - falconduler
CiRrK
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6/17/2012 7:30:39 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/17/2012 7:28:32 PM, Microsuck wrote:
With the election coming up, I'm interested in starting a SINGLE ELIMINATION TOURNAMENT where the debate focuses around areas of interest to politics.

Examples:

1. Gary Johnson would be a good President if Elected;
2. Obama's Healthcare Law is Unconstitutional;
3. Obama has hurt the economy more than he has helped (or vice versa);

These are, of course, just examples. Other ideas would be to go into economics such as flat tax vs. fair tax.

Sign up:

1. Microsuck
2. CiRrK :D
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Tournament starts when 12 people have signed up.
MrBrooks
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6/17/2012 8:44:53 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/17/2012 7:30:39 PM, CiRrK wrote:
At 6/17/2012 7:28:32 PM, Microsuck wrote:
With the election coming up, I'm interested in starting a SINGLE ELIMINATION TOURNAMENT where the debate focuses around areas of interest to politics.

Examples:

1. Gary Johnson would be a good President if Elected;
2. Obama's Healthcare Law is Unconstitutional;
3. Obama has hurt the economy more than he has helped (or vice versa);

These are, of course, just examples. Other ideas would be to go into economics such as flat tax vs. fair tax.

Sign up:

1. Microsuck
2. CiRrK :D
3. MrBrooks
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12.

Tournament starts when 12 people have signed up.
Ron-Paul
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6/17/2012 8:45:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Sign up:

1. Microsuck
2. CiRrk
3. Ron-Paul
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If someone would like to debate me, I would like to debate the following topics (all I am pro):

1. Obama's Performance in the White House Has not been Successful
2. Gary Johnson's Ideas, if Implemented, would be the Best Course of Current US Political Action
3. Free-market Capitalism is the Best Economic System

I would preferably debate Democrats and Republicans on this, and not anarchists. For example, I want Socialism vs. Capitalism or Obama vs. Johnson.
darkkermit
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6/17/2012 8:46:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/17/2012 8:44:53 PM, MrBrooks wrote:
At 6/17/2012 7:30:39 PM, CiRrK wrote:
At 6/17/2012 7:28:32 PM, Microsuck wrote:
With the election coming up, I'm interested in starting a SINGLE ELIMINATION TOURNAMENT where the debate focuses around areas of interest to politics.

Examples:

1. Gary Johnson would be a good President if Elected;
2. Obama's Healthcare Law is Unconstitutional;
3. Obama has hurt the economy more than he has helped (or vice versa);

These are, of course, just examples. Other ideas would be to go into economics such as flat tax vs. fair tax.

Sign up:

1. Microsuck
2. CiRrK :D
3. MrBrooks
4. Darkkermit
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12.

Tournament starts when 12 people have signed up.
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Contra
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6/17/2012 9:10:57 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/17/2012 8:46:15 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 6/17/2012 8:44:53 PM, MrBrooks wrote:
At 6/17/2012 7:30:39 PM, CiRrK wrote:
At 6/17/2012 7:28:32 PM, Microsuck wrote:
With the election coming up, I'm interested in starting a SINGLE ELIMINATION TOURNAMENT where the debate focuses around areas of interest to politics.

Examples:

1. Gary Johnson would be a good President if Elected;
2. Obama's Healthcare Law is Unconstitutional;
3. Obama has hurt the economy more than he has helped (or vice versa);

These are, of course, just examples. Other ideas would be to go into economics such as flat tax vs. fair tax.

Sign up:

1. Microsuck
2. CiRrK :D
3. MrBrooks
4. Darkkermit
5. Contra
6.
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10.
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12.

Tournament starts when 12 people have signed up.
"The solution [for Republicans] is to admit that Bush was a bad president, stop this racist homophobic stuff, stop trying to give most of the tax cuts to the rich, propose a real alternative to Obamacare that actually works, and propose smart free market solutions to our economic problems." - Distraff

"Americans are better off in a dynamic, free-enterprise-based economy that fosters economic growth, opportunity and upward mobility." - Paul Ryan
Microsuck
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6/20/2012 4:14:26 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
we have 6/12 needed. 6 more to begin the tournament.
Wall of Fail

Devil worship much? - SD
Newsflash: Atheists do not believe in the Devil! - Me
Newsflash: I doesnt matter if you think you do or not.....You do - SD

"you [imabench] are very naive and so i do not consider your opinions as having any merit. you must still be in highschool" - falconduler
tyler90az
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6/20/2012 4:22:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/20/2012 4:14:26 PM, Microsuck wrote:
we have 6/12 needed. 6 more to begin the tournament.

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Today we begin in earnest the work of making sure that the world we leave our children is just a little bit better than the one we inhabit today. - President Obama
Microsuck
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6/20/2012 4:35:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/20/2012 4:22:42 PM, tyler90az wrote:
At 6/20/2012 4:14:26 PM, Microsuck wrote:
we have 6/12 needed. 6 more to begin the tournament.

Sign me up

1. Microsuck
2. CiRrK :D
3. MrBrooks
4. Darkkermit
5. Contra
6. Ron-Paul
7.tyler90az
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You are in, good luck!
Wall of Fail

Devil worship much? - SD
Newsflash: Atheists do not believe in the Devil! - Me
Newsflash: I doesnt matter if you think you do or not.....You do - SD

"you [imabench] are very naive and so i do not consider your opinions as having any merit. you must still be in highschool" - falconduler
Lordknukle
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6/20/2012 4:40:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Curses! I want to register but I'm going to Mexico.
"Easy is the descent to Avernus, for the door to the Underworld lies upon both day and night. But to retrace your steps and return to the breezes above- that's the task, that's the toil."
bluesteel
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6/20/2012 4:42:09 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
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5. Contra
6. Ron-Paul
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You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - Jonathan Swift (paraphrase)
Microsuck
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6/20/2012 4:50:28 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/20/2012 4:40:11 PM, Lordknukle wrote:
Curses! I want to register but I'm going to Mexico.

Oh well. I'm sure I'll do more tournaments after this one.
Wall of Fail

Devil worship much? - SD
Newsflash: Atheists do not believe in the Devil! - Me
Newsflash: I doesnt matter if you think you do or not.....You do - SD

"you [imabench] are very naive and so i do not consider your opinions as having any merit. you must still be in highschool" - falconduler
Microsuck
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6/20/2012 4:50:44 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/20/2012 4:42:09 PM, bluesteel wrote:
1. Microsuck
2. CiRrK :D
3. MrBrooks
4. Darkkermit
5. Contra
6. Ron-Paul
7.tyler90az
8. bluesteel
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Thank you for joining, bluesteel! Good luck.
Wall of Fail

Devil worship much? - SD
Newsflash: Atheists do not believe in the Devil! - Me
Newsflash: I doesnt matter if you think you do or not.....You do - SD

"you [imabench] are very naive and so i do not consider your opinions as having any merit. you must still be in highschool" - falconduler
Microsuck
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6/23/2012 6:13:01 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
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Devil worship much? - SD
Newsflash: Atheists do not believe in the Devil! - Me
Newsflash: I doesnt matter if you think you do or not.....You do - SD

"you [imabench] are very naive and so i do not consider your opinions as having any merit. you must still be in highschool" - falconduler
Microsuck
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6/24/2012 5:01:43 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/23/2012 6:13:01 PM, Microsuck wrote:
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Wall of Fail

Devil worship much? - SD
Newsflash: Atheists do not believe in the Devil! - Me
Newsflash: I doesnt matter if you think you do or not.....You do - SD

"you [imabench] are very naive and so i do not consider your opinions as having any merit. you must still be in highschool" - falconduler
YYW
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6/25/2012 12:16:05 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/17/2012 7:28:32 PM, Microsuck wrote:

1. Gary Johnson would be a good President if Elected;

I would like to see what he would do. I'm not especially political (any more) but it would be interesting to live an a libertarian society (i.e. utopia). While I think Johnson is about as crazy as they come, some of his craziness actually sounds pretty good!

2. Obama's Healthcare Law is Unconstitutional;

It's not unconstitutional. If you reverse all jurisprudence pre-1937, then yes, it is unconstitutional, but post-1937 the legislature enjoys a blank check to regulate anything. We saw the first -sort of- limit to that in US v. Lopez (where the Supreme Court held that the commerce clause only permitted regulation of "economic" activity), and we could see a further limit of it in about a day, but as the case-law reads, everything is constitutional. I predict a 6-3 (or 6-2-1) decision upholding the individual mandate.

3. Obama has hurt the economy more than he has helped (or vice versa);

Depends how you define "hurt" or "help." Those words mean different things to different political parties... lol.

I'll consider signing up. I LOL at anyone who thinks Obamacare is unconstitutional though.
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Microsuck
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6/26/2012 7:59:36 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/25/2012 12:16:05 AM, YYW wrote:
At 6/17/2012 7:28:32 PM, Microsuck wrote:

1. Gary Johnson would be a good President if Elected;

I would like to see what he would do. I'm not especially political (any more) but it would be interesting to live an a libertarian society (i.e. utopia). While I think Johnson is about as crazy as they come, some of his craziness actually sounds pretty good!

Yeah, I agree. That's why I am voting for him :D


2. Obama's Healthcare Law is Unconstitutional;

It's not unconstitutional. If you reverse all jurisprudence pre-1937, then yes, it is unconstitutional, but post-1937 the legislature enjoys a blank check to regulate anything. We saw the first -sort of- limit to that in US v. Lopez (where the Supreme Court held that the commerce clause only permitted regulation of "economic" activity), and we could see a further limit of it in about a day, but as the case-law reads, everything is constitutional. I predict a 6-3 (or 6-2-1) decision upholding the individual mandate.

I didn't say that I thought it was unconstitutional.


3. Obama has hurt the economy more than he has helped (or vice versa);

Depends how you define "hurt" or "help." Those words mean different things to different political parties... lol.

Lol. Yeah, I was just using them as an example.


I'll consider signing up. I LOL at anyone who thinks Obamacare is unconstitutional though.

Lol. Yeah. Anyways, 4 people left are needed! SIGN UP GUYS!

1. Microsuck
2. CiRrK :D
3. MrBrooks
4. Darkkermit
5. Contra
6. Ron-Paul
7.tyler90az
8. bluesteel
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Wall of Fail

Devil worship much? - SD
Newsflash: Atheists do not believe in the Devil! - Me
Newsflash: I doesnt matter if you think you do or not.....You do - SD

"you [imabench] are very naive and so i do not consider your opinions as having any merit. you must still be in highschool" - falconduler
Microsuck
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6/27/2012 2:09:20 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/24/2012 5:01:43 PM, Microsuck wrote:
At 6/23/2012 6:13:01 PM, Microsuck wrote:
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Wall of Fail

Devil worship much? - SD
Newsflash: Atheists do not believe in the Devil! - Me
Newsflash: I doesnt matter if you think you do or not.....You do - SD

"you [imabench] are very naive and so i do not consider your opinions as having any merit. you must still be in highschool" - falconduler
YYW
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6/27/2012 2:20:53 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/27/2012 2:09:20 PM, Microsuck wrote:
At 6/24/2012 5:01:43 PM, Microsuck wrote:
At 6/23/2012 6:13:01 PM, Microsuck wrote:
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Whatever. I'll sign up. I don't care what topic I get (as long as I don't have to argue the unconstitutionality of the national health care law -unless the Supreme Court surprises the world tomorrow, lol).
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CiRrK
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6/27/2012 8:54:59 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/27/2012 2:20:53 PM, YYW wrote:
At 6/27/2012 2:09:20 PM, Microsuck wrote:
At 6/24/2012 5:01:43 PM, Microsuck wrote:
At 6/23/2012 6:13:01 PM, Microsuck wrote:
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Whatever. I'll sign up. I don't care what topic I get (as long as I don't have to argue the unconstitutionality of the national health care law -unless the Supreme Court surprises the world tomorrow, lol).

Regardless of the outcome tomorrow if we hit in the tournament Ill debate u that it is indeed unconstitutional. :)
YYW
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6/28/2012 4:57:34 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 6/27/2012 8:54:59 PM, CiRrK wrote:
At 6/27/2012 2:20:53 PM, YYW wrote:
At 6/27/2012 2:09:20 PM, Microsuck wrote:
At 6/24/2012 5:01:43 PM, Microsuck wrote:
At 6/23/2012 6:13:01 PM, Microsuck wrote:
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Whatever. I'll sign up. I don't care what topic I get (as long as I don't have to argue the unconstitutionality of the national health care law -unless the Supreme Court surprises the world tomorrow, lol).

Regardless of the outcome tomorrow if we hit in the tournament Ill debate u that it is indeed unconstitutional. :)

Feel free to issue a challenge one way or another. I'll be here.
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Microsuck
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6/29/2012 11:59:15 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
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1. Microsuck
2. CiRrK :D
3. MrBrooks
4. Darkkermit
5. Contra
6. Ron-Paul
7.tyler90az
8. bluesteel
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Come on guys, sign up. If I don't get any more sign ups by tomorrow afternoon, I will begin the tournament with these eight people grouped into 2 quads.
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Devil worship much? - SD
Newsflash: Atheists do not believe in the Devil! - Me
Newsflash: I doesnt matter if you think you do or not.....You do - SD

"you [imabench] are very naive and so i do not consider your opinions as having any merit. you must still be in highschool" - falconduler