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OFFICIAL: Upcoming Improvements

SObszanski
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8/14/2012 11:46:43 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I wanted to touch base with all of you prior to making updates/changes on Debate.org. We are moving Juggle Debates (http://debates.juggle.com...) over to Debate.org in a section labeled "Opinions". With this update will also come an updated style to the site as a whole, including new navigation.

Currently, we have solid participation on Juggle, and it makes sense to move this feature to Debate.org. This move will create a lower barrier to entry for participation. Less than 8,000 of our 40,000+ community have participated in a formal debate. This release is something that is a lower barrier to participation and will help grow the community with new members.

This move will not affect the larger debate platform in any form. This release is iterative - we will continue to make improvements to it based on your feedback. The first version release is by no means the final. We are moving over the basis feature set from the existing to get it online quickly. We are looking to the DDO'ers for ideas on how we can improve this whether it be voting for best arguments and having a point system in profiles (separate from the larger debates).

In summary: We are looking to add this simple functionality as a form of basic arguments and opinions that is a lower level of effort for new users than the big debates yet more structured than a forum.

I look forward to hearing your feedback.

Best,
Suzanne
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8/14/2012 12:33:12 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I think this is a good improvement. Another debate site called "yikyak" has a similar feature called "Socratic debates". (No, I don't have account on that site; I was just searching for new debate sites to visit a few weeks ago.)

I think it's a good idea to keep the points separate. What I would do is tally the number of "thumbs up" each argument receives and subtract the number of "thumbs down" to have an overall score for the argument. In order to limit votebombing, you could adopt a feature similar to createdebate in which individuals receive "tokens" for posting arguments. Every time the user gives an argument a +1 or a -1, he or she loses a token. This limits the number of arguments users can vote up or down. Votebombing will be very obvious because users who will want to votebomb will spam useless or nonarguments, and those users could be banned swiftly.
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8/14/2012 1:02:28 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I imagine that this is taking the spot of the "quick debates"?

I think the best way to counter vote bombing or vote spamming would be to allow each person only 1 upvote per "debate" (or whatever term you want to call them). That way, they give it to the argument that they believe is best. No one is going to waste it on a bad argument, and there should be enough activity to get good arguments on both sides.

That would prevent people from spamming a ton of upvotes or a ton of downvotes.
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8/14/2012 1:23:33 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Is the entire website being re-designed?
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8/14/2012 1:30:38 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/14/2012 1:23:33 PM, Microsuck wrote:
Is the entire website being re-designed?

The navigation will be changed. I look forward to it, and team debates hopefully in the future.
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8/14/2012 1:56:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Good feature. However, here, there is no RFD, so people would just VB like crazy.
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8/14/2012 1:58:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/14/2012 1:56:55 PM, 1dustpelt wrote:
Good feature. However, here, there is no RFD, so people would just VB like crazy.

Bleh, nevermind that. Not what I was going to say.
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8/15/2012 6:27:39 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Please for the love of God no. The people who "debate" there are mostly morons, I can think of no better way to destroy this site than to force them to come here.
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8/15/2012 6:33:23 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/15/2012 6:27:39 PM, thett3 wrote:
Please for the love of God no. The people who "debate" there are mostly morons, I can think of no better way to destroy this site than to force them to come here.

Maybe they'll learn a thing or two.
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8/15/2012 7:13:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/15/2012 6:27:39 PM, thett3 wrote:
Please for the love of God no. The people who "debate" there are mostly morons, I can think of no better way to destroy this site than to force them to come here.

Think of it as an opportunity to help someone else.
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8/15/2012 7:20:31 PM
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At 8/15/2012 6:27:39 PM, thett3 wrote:
Please for the love of God no. The people who "debate" there are mostly morons, I can think of no better way to destroy this site than to force them to come here.

+1
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SObszanski
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8/20/2012 9:16:13 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/14/2012 3:22:05 PM, Viper-King wrote:
A few questions. Is this team debates and quick debates or are those going to be separated. When is this going to take place?

This release is the first iteration of "quick debates." It is completely different from team debates and will be released in the next couple of weeks. Please feel free to send me a private message should you have any further questions.