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8/14/2012 12:58:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I am really into global warming debates at this moment, so I thought I would try a run at different resolutions in global warming.

I am posting this in the DDO forums, instead of politics or science so as to get the most traffic.

Anyway, I want to debate people on several various global warming topics. These include (subject matter in parenthesis)(I am pro all resolutions):

*The Sun Is not the Main Cause of Global Warming (extreme past)
*Mankind Is not the Main Cause of Global Warming (past)
*Countries Should not Pass Legislation Drastically Cutting the Amount of Greenhouse Gases Emitted (present)
*Global Warming Is Not Happening at an Unprecedented Rate (also, the extent rising sea levels will be debated) (past and future)
*Devil's Advocate (I will play devil's advocate on any global warming topic, but preferably on "Mankind Is the Main Cause of Global Warming)

If you want to debate any of these topics, please state the topic(s) you want to debate in a post. Thank you.
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8/14/2012 4:47:05 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I am not that knowledgeable on this particular subject.
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8/14/2012 5:35:24 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/14/2012 4:47:05 PM, Contra wrote:
I am not that knowledgeable on this particular subject.

I saw that when you claimed the 97% number
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8/14/2012 10:25:19 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/14/2012 12:58:55 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
I am really into global warming debates at this moment, so I thought I would try a run at different resolutions in global warming.

I am posting this in the DDO forums, instead of politics or science so as to get the most traffic.

Anyway, I want to debate people on several various global warming topics. These include (subject matter in parenthesis)(I am pro all resolutions):

*The Sun Is not the Main Cause of Global Warming (extreme past)

I could agree with that

*Mankind Is not the Main Cause of Global Warming (past)

I would agree less with that but still could be convinced

*Countries Should not Pass Legislation Drastically Cutting the Amount of Greenhouse Gases Emitted (present)

I definitely agree with this

*Global Warming Is Not Happening at an Unprecedented Rate (also, the extent rising sea levels will be debated) (past and future)

Agreed

*Devil's Advocate (I will play devil's advocate on any global warming topic, but preferably on "Mankind Is the Main Cause of Global Warming)

huh?

If you want to debate any of these topics, please state the topic(s) you want to debate in a post. Thank you.

I dot see anything I would disagree with enough to debate. We share the same views
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8/14/2012 11:07:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/14/2012 10:25:19 PM, imabench wrote:
At 8/14/2012 12:58:55 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
I am really into global warming debates at this moment, so I thought I would try a run at different resolutions in global warming.

I am posting this in the DDO forums, instead of politics or science so as to get the most traffic.

Anyway, I want to debate people on several various global warming topics. These include (subject matter in parenthesis)(I am pro all resolutions):

*The Sun Is not the Main Cause of Global Warming (extreme past)

I could agree with that

You could, but shouldn't.


*Mankind Is not the Main Cause of Global Warming (past)

I would agree less with that but still could be convinced

Look up NIPCC, and click reports.


*Countries Should not Pass Legislation Drastically Cutting the Amount of Greenhouse Gases Emitted (present)

I definitely agree with this

I agree, too, imabench.


*Global Warming Is Not Happening at an Unprecedented Rate (also, the extent rising sea levels will be debated) (past and future)

Agreed

Then how is it not natural?


*Devil's Advocate (I will play devil's advocate on any global warming topic, but preferably on "Mankind Is the Main Cause of Global Warming)

huh?

He'll argue the pinko IPCC view


If you want to debate any of these topics, please state the topic(s) you want to debate in a post. Thank you.

I dot see anything I would disagree with enough to debate. We share the same views
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8/14/2012 11:13:12 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/14/2012 11:07:35 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 8/14/2012 10:25:19 PM, imabench wrote:
At 8/14/2012 12:58:55 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
I am really into global warming debates at this moment, so I thought I would try a run at different resolutions in global warming.

I am posting this in the DDO forums, instead of politics or science so as to get the most traffic.

Anyway, I want to debate people on several various global warming topics. These include (subject matter in parenthesis)(I am pro all resolutions):

*The Sun Is not the Main Cause of Global Warming (extreme past)

I could agree with that

You could, but shouldn't.

Main cause of global warming could be any combination of a number of things, not just any one thing.

*Mankind Is not the Main Cause of Global Warming (past)

I would agree less with that but still could be convinced

Look up NIPCC, and click reports.

Maybe when its not after midnight

*Countries Should not Pass Legislation Drastically Cutting the Amount of Greenhouse Gases Emitted (present)

I definitely agree with this

I agree, too, imabench.


*Global Warming Is Not Happening at an Unprecedented Rate (also, the extent rising sea levels will be debated) (past and future)

Agreed

Then how is it not natural?

Its not a question on if its natural or not, its a question of how fast its happening

*Devil's Advocate (I will play devil's advocate on any global warming topic, but preferably on "Mankind Is the Main Cause of Global Warming)

huh?

He'll argue the pinko IPCC view

Gotcha
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8/14/2012 11:18:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/14/2012 11:13:12 PM, imabench wrote:
At 8/14/2012 11:07:35 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 8/14/2012 10:25:19 PM, imabench wrote:
At 8/14/2012 12:58:55 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:
I am really into global warming debates at this moment, so I thought I would try a run at different resolutions in global warming.

I am posting this in the DDO forums, instead of politics or science so as to get the most traffic.

Anyway, I want to debate people on several various global warming topics. These include (subject matter in parenthesis)(I am pro all resolutions):

*The Sun Is not the Main Cause of Global Warming (extreme past)

I could agree with that

You could, but shouldn't.

Main cause of global warming could be any combination of a number of things, not just any one thing.

I agree with this, however the sun is the only heat source we have, and no one knows what controls the PDO/AMO (likely the sun), which are the other factors we must consider. Cosmic rays also offer a convincing theory. Also note the resolution says main.


*Mankind Is not the Main Cause of Global Warming (past)

I would agree less with that but still could be convinced

Look up NIPCC, and click reports.

Maybe when its not after midnight

Cool. It cites every study on the subject up too 2011.


*Countries Should not Pass Legislation Drastically Cutting the Amount of Greenhouse Gases Emitted (present)

I definitely agree with this

I agree, too, imabench.


*Global Warming Is Not Happening at an Unprecedented Rate (also, the extent rising sea levels will be debated) (past and future)

Agreed

Then how is it not natural?

Its not a question on if its natural or not, its a question of how fast its happening

I actually linked to above. Every 1500 years warming like this occurs... naturally. The only case you can make, therefore, is if it is unprecedented. If its not unusual why should we think its manmade?


*Devil's Advocate (I will play devil's advocate on any global warming topic, but preferably on "Mankind Is the Main Cause of Global Warming)

huh?

He'll argue the pinko IPCC view

Gotcha

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https://rekonomics.wordpress.com...
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8/14/2012 11:29:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/14/2012 11:18:02 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 8/14/2012 11:13:12 PM, imabench wrote:
At 8/14/2012 11:07:35 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 8/14/2012 10:25:19 PM, imabench wrote:
At 8/14/2012 12:58:55 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:

*Global Warming Is Not Happening at an Unprecedented Rate (also, the extent rising sea levels will be debated) (past and future)

Agreed

Then how is it not natural?

Its not a question on if its natural or not, its a question of how fast its happening

I actually linked to above. Every 1500 years warming like this occurs... naturally. The only case you can make, therefore, is if it is unprecedented. If its not unusual why should we think its manmade?

f*ck, i thought that he was saying the speed of which global warming was occurring different then what was first expected
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8/14/2012 11:34:06 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/14/2012 11:29:58 PM, imabench wrote:
At 8/14/2012 11:18:02 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 8/14/2012 11:13:12 PM, imabench wrote:
At 8/14/2012 11:07:35 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 8/14/2012 10:25:19 PM, imabench wrote:
At 8/14/2012 12:58:55 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:

*Global Warming Is Not Happening at an Unprecedented Rate (also, the extent rising sea levels will be debated) (past and future)

Agreed

Then how is it not natural?

Its not a question on if its natural or not, its a question of how fast its happening

I actually linked to above. Every 1500 years warming like this occurs... naturally. The only case you can make, therefore, is if it is unprecedented. If its not unusual why should we think its manmade?

f*ck, i thought that he was saying the speed of which global warming was occurring different then what was first expected

It has been lower then all climate models predicted
https://www.youtube.com...
https://rekonomics.wordpress.com...
"A trend is a trend, but the question is, will it bend? Will it alter its course through some unforeseen force and come to a premature end?" -- Alec Cairncross
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8/14/2012 11:34:56 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/14/2012 11:34:06 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 8/14/2012 11:29:58 PM, imabench wrote:
At 8/14/2012 11:18:02 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 8/14/2012 11:13:12 PM, imabench wrote:
At 8/14/2012 11:07:35 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 8/14/2012 10:25:19 PM, imabench wrote:
At 8/14/2012 12:58:55 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:

*Global Warming Is Not Happening at an Unprecedented Rate (also, the extent rising sea levels will be debated) (past and future)

Agreed

Then how is it not natural?

Its not a question on if its natural or not, its a question of how fast its happening

I actually linked to above. Every 1500 years warming like this occurs... naturally. The only case you can make, therefore, is if it is unprecedented. If its not unusual why should we think its manmade?

f*ck, i thought that he was saying the speed of which global warming was occurring different then what was first expected

It has been lower then all climate models predicted

^ which is what I thought i was agreeing to
Kevin24018 : "He's just so mean it makes me want to ball up my fists and stamp on the ground"
Geogeer: "Nobody is dumb enough to become my protege."

7/14/16 = The Presidency Dies

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8/14/2012 11:40:28 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 8/14/2012 11:34:56 PM, imabench wrote:
At 8/14/2012 11:34:06 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 8/14/2012 11:29:58 PM, imabench wrote:
At 8/14/2012 11:18:02 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 8/14/2012 11:13:12 PM, imabench wrote:
At 8/14/2012 11:07:35 PM, 16kadams wrote:
At 8/14/2012 10:25:19 PM, imabench wrote:
At 8/14/2012 12:58:55 PM, Ron-Paul wrote:

*Global Warming Is Not Happening at an Unprecedented Rate (also, the extent rising sea levels will be debated) (past and future)

Agreed

Then how is it not natural?

Its not a question on if its natural or not, its a question of how fast its happening

I actually linked to above. Every 1500 years warming like this occurs... naturally. The only case you can make, therefore, is if it is unprecedented. If its not unusual why should we think its manmade?

f*ck, i thought that he was saying the speed of which global warming was occurring different then what was first expected

It has been lower then all climate models predicted

^ which is what I thought i was agreeing to

And the climate models are all the evidence fit man made warming... And they are always wrong... Lol
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https://rekonomics.wordpress.com...
"A trend is a trend, but the question is, will it bend? Will it alter its course through some unforeseen force and come to a premature end?" -- Alec Cairncross