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socialpinko
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9/26/2012 9:51:52 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
He's pretty okay with not being on DDO.
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9/26/2012 10:03:11 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I think it would be a dismal result if we were to reinstate his account; he wouldn't be necessarily happy to come back and his admittedly abrasive character(as well as his condescending attitude to those whom he doesn't respect) might lead to further friction between him and some of the newer members. But for the sake of intellectual discourse---
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9/26/2012 10:05:30 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/26/2012 9:51:52 PM, socialpinko wrote:
He's pretty okay with not being on DDO.
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9/26/2012 10:09:19 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/26/2012 10:03:11 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
I think it would be a dismal result if we were to reinstate his account; he wouldn't be necessarily happy to come back and his admittedly abrasive character(as well as his condescending attitude to those whom he doesn't respect) might lead to further friction between him and some of the newer members. But for the sake of intellectual discourse---

It's not as much that as he's simply not good at controlling his temper when taking to morons. The people on this site seem to think that's a virtue.
: At 9/29/2014 10:55:59 AM, imabench wrote:
: : At 9/29/2014 9:43:46 AM, kbub wrote:
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: : DDO should discredit support of sexual violence at any time and in every way.
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: I disagree.
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9/26/2012 10:09:47 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Who cares if he doesn't want to come back. A longer than one year ban is clearly unjust.
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9/26/2012 10:13:27 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/26/2012 10:09:19 PM, socialpinko wrote:
At 9/26/2012 10:03:11 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
I think it would be a dismal result if we were to reinstate his account; he wouldn't be necessarily happy to come back and his admittedly abrasive character(as well as his condescending attitude to those whom he doesn't respect) might lead to further friction between him and some of the newer members. But for the sake of intellectual discourse---

It's not as much that as he's simply not good at controlling his temper when taking to morons. The people on this site seem to think that's a virtue.

Well, yes. However, obviously people won't be so smitten by said tendency and it will result in hostilities, lol.
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9/26/2012 10:26:49 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Would someone, anyone tell me why he was banned? No one will give me a straight answer. Was it for racial slurs?
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9/26/2012 10:27:31 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/26/2012 10:26:49 PM, Koopin wrote:
Would someone, anyone tell me why he was banned? No one will give me a straight answer. Was it for racial slurs?

He advertised another site.
: At 9/29/2014 10:55:59 AM, imabench wrote:
: : At 9/29/2014 9:43:46 AM, kbub wrote:
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: : DDO should discredit support of sexual violence at any time and in every way.
:
: I disagree.
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9/26/2012 10:28:54 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/26/2012 10:27:31 PM, socialpinko wrote:
At 9/26/2012 10:26:49 PM, Koopin wrote:
Would someone, anyone tell me why he was banned? No one will give me a straight answer. Was it for racial slurs?

He advertised another site.

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9/26/2012 10:30:48 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/26/2012 10:27:31 PM, socialpinko wrote:
At 9/26/2012 10:26:49 PM, Koopin wrote:
Would someone, anyone tell me why he was banned? No one will give me a straight answer. Was it for racial slurs?

He advertised another site.

This can't be why he was banned...
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9/26/2012 10:32:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/26/2012 10:30:48 PM, Koopin wrote:
At 9/26/2012 10:27:31 PM, socialpinko wrote:
At 9/26/2012 10:26:49 PM, Koopin wrote:
Would someone, anyone tell me why he was banned? No one will give me a straight answer. Was it for racial slurs?

He advertised another site.

This can't be why he was banned...

I'm pretty sure that's what it was. Of course he really wanted to be banned so he wasn't exactly cordial about it lol.
: At 9/29/2014 10:55:59 AM, imabench wrote:
: : At 9/29/2014 9:43:46 AM, kbub wrote:
: :
: : DDO should discredit support of sexual violence at any time and in every way.
:
: I disagree.
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9/26/2012 10:33:04 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/26/2012 10:30:48 PM, Koopin wrote:
At 9/26/2012 10:27:31 PM, socialpinko wrote:
At 9/26/2012 10:26:49 PM, Koopin wrote:
Would someone, anyone tell me why he was banned? No one will give me a straight answer. Was it for racial slurs?

He advertised another site.

This can't be why he was banned...

That and admitting he wanted to be banned, and then becoming a troll to get there. He was given what he asked for. I think that is more then just.
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9/26/2012 10:33:50 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/26/2012 10:32:00 PM, socialpinko wrote:
At 9/26/2012 10:30:48 PM, Koopin wrote:
At 9/26/2012 10:27:31 PM, socialpinko wrote:
At 9/26/2012 10:26:49 PM, Koopin wrote:
Would someone, anyone tell me why he was banned? No one will give me a straight answer. Was it for racial slurs?

He advertised another site.

This can't be why he was banned...

I'm pretty sure that's what it was. Of course he really wanted to be banned so he wasn't exactly cordial about it lol.

Didn't he also basically tell people they should leave the site and started forming a group? I just remember his thread had hundreds of posts in it.
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9/26/2012 10:35:47 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/26/2012 10:32:00 PM, socialpinko wrote:
At 9/26/2012 10:30:48 PM, Koopin wrote:
At 9/26/2012 10:27:31 PM, socialpinko wrote:
At 9/26/2012 10:26:49 PM, Koopin wrote:
Would someone, anyone tell me why he was banned? No one will give me a straight answer. Was it for racial slurs?

He advertised another site.

This can't be why he was banned...

I'm pretty sure that's what it was. Of course he really wanted to be banned so he wasn't exactly cordial about it lol.

It's too bad really. I liked him a lot when I first met him. He gave me a ton of links about anarchy and was quite pleasant. Then some where along the way he changed into something I didn't want any part of.

He is weak in my opinion, when things get bad he ran away.
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socialpinko
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9/26/2012 10:37:24 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/26/2012 10:33:04 PM, jharry wrote:
At 9/26/2012 10:30:48 PM, Koopin wrote:
At 9/26/2012 10:27:31 PM, socialpinko wrote:
At 9/26/2012 10:26:49 PM, Koopin wrote:
Would someone, anyone tell me why he was banned? No one will give me a straight answer. Was it for racial slurs?

He advertised another site.

This can't be why he was banned...

That and admitting he wanted to be banned, and then becoming a troll to get there. He was given what he asked for. I think that is more then just.

Yeah just make sure to totally ignore everything surrounding what happened and just treat it like an isolated incident. That should work out nice.
: At 9/29/2014 10:55:59 AM, imabench wrote:
: : At 9/29/2014 9:43:46 AM, kbub wrote:
: :
: : DDO should discredit support of sexual violence at any time and in every way.
:
: I disagree.
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9/26/2012 10:39:37 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/26/2012 10:37:24 PM, socialpinko wrote:
At 9/26/2012 10:33:04 PM, jharry wrote:
At 9/26/2012 10:30:48 PM, Koopin wrote:
At 9/26/2012 10:27:31 PM, socialpinko wrote:
At 9/26/2012 10:26:49 PM, Koopin wrote:
Would someone, anyone tell me why he was banned? No one will give me a straight answer. Was it for racial slurs?

He advertised another site.

This can't be why he was banned...

That and admitting he wanted to be banned, and then becoming a troll to get there. He was given what he asked for. I think that is more then just.

Yeah just make sure to totally ignore everything surrounding what happened and just treat it like an isolated incident. That should work out nice.

I addressed those in a post to you. Askbob got banned. Juggle was no where to be found. Trolls running rampant. Like I said, little boys runned away. Men stayed and got it to where it is no.
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9/27/2012 3:01:38 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/26/2012 10:33:50 PM, phantom wrote:
At 9/26/2012 10:32:00 PM, socialpinko wrote:
At 9/26/2012 10:30:48 PM, Koopin wrote:
At 9/26/2012 10:27:31 PM, socialpinko wrote:
At 9/26/2012 10:26:49 PM, Koopin wrote:
Would someone, anyone tell me why he was banned? No one will give me a straight answer. Was it for racial slurs?

He advertised another site.

This can't be why he was banned...

I'm pretty sure that's what it was. Of course he really wanted to be banned so he wasn't exactly cordial about it lol.

Didn't he also basically tell people they should leave the site and started forming a group? I just remember his thread had hundreds of posts in it.

lol, the DDO strike in which he tried to get members of DDO to stop posting in order to make the site suck so Juggle would give into his demands.

There was also the "Report bloc" he created in which a block of members would report posts and basically overwhelm the moderator.
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9/27/2012 3:19:15 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/27/2012 3:01:38 AM, darkkermit wrote:

There was also the "Report bloc" he created in which a block of members would report posts and basically overwhelm the moderator.

This is a mischaracterization. At the time, there was basically no moderation despite there being a crapton of trolls. Reporting them a single time didn't do squat to get them taken care of like it does now. The theory then was that if a large group of people reported a user all at once, it would draw enough attention from the mod to do something about it. If the mod was overwhelmed, it was only because there were dozens of other reports they hadn't bothered to take care of.

Innomen was a major member of it and can attest that it was not illegitimate. It was also generally successful.
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9/27/2012 3:39:12 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/27/2012 3:01:38 AM, darkkermit wrote:
At 9/26/2012 10:33:50 PM, phantom wrote:
At 9/26/2012 10:32:00 PM, socialpinko wrote:
At 9/26/2012 10:30:48 PM, Koopin wrote:
At 9/26/2012 10:27:31 PM, socialpinko wrote:
At 9/26/2012 10:26:49 PM, Koopin wrote:
Would someone, anyone tell me why he was banned? No one will give me a straight answer. Was it for racial slurs?

He advertised another site.

This can't be why he was banned...

I'm pretty sure that's what it was. Of course he really wanted to be banned so he wasn't exactly cordial about it lol.

Didn't he also basically tell people they should leave the site and started forming a group? I just remember his thread had hundreds of posts in it.

lol, the DDO strike in which he tried to get members of DDO to stop posting in order to make the site suck so Juggle would give into his demands.

There was also the "Report bloc" he created in which a block of members would report posts and basically overwhelm the moderator.

The strike was just phase one of Siebens departure.

After askbob posted personal info of a minor askbob started a thread where they could make fun of his picture. Members like Sieben, Cody Franklin and J Kenyon jumped in the thread to ridicule the minor.

Askbob was banned.

This is when Sieben turned from organizing a strike to screw this site, screw everyone that stays, I'm making a site where only smart people are allowed. Askbob was one of the first to join Siebens site, along with Cody Franklin, J Kenyon and other pro askbob, anti DDO members. They closed their accounts and left.

The site bombed as predicted and most have slowly trickled back to DDO now that Inno and crew stuck it out and built a strong relationship with juggle.

Sieben cut off his own nose, let him sleep in the bed he made. My opinion.
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