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9/28/2012 9:37:25 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I call that this user be banned for not only at times using inappropriate and profane language but consistently plagiarizing, and by this I mean plagiarizing .90% of the time. Here is some evidence:

Scientific Evidence Supports the Theory of Evolution

Rationalmadman plagiarized from the website: http://www.dnatube.com... in a block copy and paste, the website did not address the contenders argument

Abortion is immoral and the destruction of life.

Rationalmadman completely plagiarized from the website:
http://debatepedia.idebate.org...
Adding in his own headings.

No-one can understand someone better than the person him/herself
Plagiarism from this website and others
http://psycnet.apa.org...

this debate was particularly bad as he even stole sexual content as a protest for being called out on his plagism..

"Are you a heavy porn user who, during lovemaking, cannot consistently produce/sustain an erection or penetrate a real partner, feel much sensation, or climax.." e.c.t

This guy has even been known to ask for help to cover up his plagiarism
"Hey man please could you mentor me in how to hide plagiarism."

This is not an odd occurance, it happens virtually every time. The only posts that are not plagiarized are 1 liner starts and when he forfeits (often for no apparent reason). If you have ever lost a debate to this guy, know he cheated.

Since this guy has been warned and called out multiple times, and is still doing it. I propose he should be banned. I do not take part in debates on DDOG but I like to view the debates that go on, and this guy is ruining peoples debate challenges that I would have liked to have seen a good discussion on.
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9/29/2012 9:49:51 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
He plagarized in my debate with him too: Eating steralized non-primate meat in moderation, is moral. I only caught him int he last round after noticing ZERO refutation through all of the other rounds and decided to check his source. I raged. I agree with the ban. Let's start a petition!
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9/29/2012 10:49:12 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/29/2012 9:49:51 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
He plagarized in my debate with him too: Eating steralized non-primate meat in moderation, is moral. I only caught him int he last round after noticing ZERO refutation through all of the other rounds and decided to check his source. I raged. I agree with the ban. Let's start a petition!

People who think that RationalMadman should be banned
1) QuantumOverlord
2) ishallannoyyo

People who think Quantum and Ishallanooyyo are being overreactive and have a large stick lodged up their a** and are fussing about nothing.
1) Imabench
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9/29/2012 10:50:20 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/29/2012 10:49:12 PM, imabench wrote:
At 9/29/2012 9:49:51 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
He plagarized in my debate with him too: Eating steralized non-primate meat in moderation, is moral. I only caught him int he last round after noticing ZERO refutation through all of the other rounds and decided to check his source. I raged. I agree with the ban. Let's start a petition!

People who think that RationalMadman should be banned
1) QuantumOverlord
2) ishallannoyyo

People who think Quantum and Ishallanooyyo are being overreactive and have a large stick lodged up their a** and are fussing about nothing.
1) Imabench

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9/29/2012 10:52:36 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/29/2012 10:50:20 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 9/29/2012 10:49:12 PM, imabench wrote:
At 9/29/2012 9:49:51 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
He plagarized in my debate with him too: Eating steralized non-primate meat in moderation, is moral. I only caught him int he last round after noticing ZERO refutation through all of the other rounds and decided to check his source. I raged. I agree with the ban. Let's start a petition!

People who think that RationalMadman should be banned
1) QuantumOverlord
2) ishallannoyyo

People who think Quantum and Ishallanooyyo are being overreactive and have a large stick lodged up their a** and are fussing about nothing.
1) Imabench

Innocent Bystanders
1) OberHerr
2) Man-is-good
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9/29/2012 10:57:22 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
To be fair, Imabench, QuantumOverlord was likely promoting such a ban for intellectual purposes, since Rationalmadman's actions infringe any set criteria for honesty; he might be unaware that the community largely lend disciplinary actions and reprimands to members like Rationalmadman, and that Airmax doesn't ban people for such actions. After all, he doesn't command a necessarily strong presence (no offense, QuantumOverlord) and is relatively new.
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9/29/2012 11:00:34 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/29/2012 10:57:22 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
To be fair, Imabench, QuantumOverlord was likely promoting such a ban for intellectual purposes, since Rationalmadman's actions infringe any set criteria for honesty; he might be unaware that the community largely lend disciplinary actions and reprimands to members like Rationalmadman, and that Airmax doesn't ban people for such actions. After all, he doesn't command a necessarily strong presence (no offense, QuantumOverlord) and is relatively new.

If we start banning people for intellectual purposes, then I can name at least 20 other people who qualify before rationalmadman comes up on that list. More importantly though its a pet peeve of mine when people complain about plagiarizing, its literally one of the easiest ways you can win a debate, which is why i get annoyed when people call for someones ban ONLY because they plagiarized.
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9/29/2012 11:16:35 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/29/2012 11:00:34 PM, imabench wrote:
At 9/29/2012 10:57:22 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
To be fair, Imabench, QuantumOverlord was likely promoting such a ban for intellectual purposes, since Rationalmadman's actions infringe any set criteria for honesty; he might be unaware that the community largely lend disciplinary actions and reprimands to members like Rationalmadman, and that Airmax doesn't ban people for such actions. After all, he doesn't command a necessarily strong presence (no offense, QuantumOverlord) and is relatively new.

If we start banning people for intellectual purposes, then I can name at least 20 other people who qualify before rationalmadman comes up on that list. More importantly though its a pet peeve of mine when people complain about plagiarizing, its literally one of the easiest ways you can win a debate, which is why i get annoyed when people call for someones ban ONLY because they plagiarized.

Again, Imabench, I did not endorse/criticize QuantumOverlord but asked for some leniency or relenting in your criticism of Quantum's point; I can see what you mean, however...
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9/30/2012 12:03:00 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/29/2012 11:16:35 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
At 9/29/2012 11:00:34 PM, imabench wrote:
At 9/29/2012 10:57:22 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
To be fair, Imabench, QuantumOverlord was likely promoting such a ban for intellectual purposes, since Rationalmadman's actions infringe any set criteria for honesty; he might be unaware that the community largely lend disciplinary actions and reprimands to members like Rationalmadman, and that Airmax doesn't ban people for such actions. After all, he doesn't command a necessarily strong presence (no offense, QuantumOverlord) and is relatively new.

If we start banning people for intellectual purposes, then I can name at least 20 other people who qualify before rationalmadman comes up on that list. More importantly though its a pet peeve of mine when people complain about plagiarizing, its literally one of the easiest ways you can win a debate, which is why i get annoyed when people call for someones ban ONLY because they plagiarized.

Again, Imabench, I did not endorse/criticize QuantumOverlord but asked for some leniency or relenting in your criticism of Quantum's point; I can see what you mean, however...

Oh I see now. I guess i did overreact a bit.
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9/30/2012 4:31:30 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
If someone plagiarises in a debate, then it's stupid and they should be ostracised for it. When someone only plagiarises in a debate, then goes around promoting it as a good thing, then it goes against the actual purpose of the site. It is childish and stupid on an enormous degree.
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9/30/2012 8:19:18 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/29/2012 10:49:12 PM, imabench wrote:
At 9/29/2012 9:49:51 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
He plagarized in my debate with him too: Eating steralized non-primate meat in moderation, is moral. I only caught him int he last round after noticing ZERO refutation through all of the other rounds and decided to check his source. I raged. I agree with the ban. Let's start a petition!

People who think that RationalMadman should be banned
1) QuantumOverlord
2) ishallannoyyo

People who think Quantum and Ishallanooyyo are being overreactive and have a large stick lodged up their a** and are fussing about nothing.
1) Imabench
2) Chicken
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9/30/2012 8:19:52 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/29/2012 10:52:36 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
At 9/29/2012 10:50:20 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 9/29/2012 10:49:12 PM, imabench wrote:
At 9/29/2012 9:49:51 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
He plagarized in my debate with him too: Eating steralized non-primate meat in moderation, is moral. I only caught him int he last round after noticing ZERO refutation through all of the other rounds and decided to check his source. I raged. I agree with the ban. Let's start a petition!

People who think that RationalMadman should be banned
1) QuantumOverlord
2) ishallannoyyo

People who think Quantum and Ishallanooyyo are being overreactive and have a large stick lodged up their a** and are fussing about nothing.
1) Imabench
2) Chicken
Innocent Bystanders
1) OberHerr
2) Man-is-good
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9/30/2012 11:52:37 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/30/2012 8:19:52 AM, Chicken wrote:
At 9/29/2012 10:52:36 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
At 9/29/2012 10:50:20 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 9/29/2012 10:49:12 PM, imabench wrote:
At 9/29/2012 9:49:51 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
He plagarized in my debate with him too: Eating steralized non-primate meat in moderation, is moral. I only caught him int he last round after noticing ZERO refutation through all of the other rounds and decided to check his source. I raged. I agree with the ban. Let's start a petition!

People who think that RationalMadman should be banned
1) QuantumOverlord
2) ishallannoyyo

People who think Quantum and Ishallanooyyo are being overreactive and have a large stick lodged up their a** and are fussing about nothing.
1) Imabench
2) Chicken
Innocent Bystanders
1) OberHerr
2) Man-is-good

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10/1/2012 9:44:41 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I am actually shocked at all the people that are dismissing this issue as trivial. I wouldn't go so far as to say people are actively defending RationalMadnman, but plagiarism is not a trivial issue. If people are allowed to cheat then what is the point of voting at all? I'm sorry but if people on DDOG are going to trivialise or condone plagiarism then I really am not going to be part of it.
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10/1/2012 12:29:48 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/1/2012 9:44:41 AM, QuantumOverlord wrote:
I am actually shocked at all the people that are dismissing this issue as trivial. I wouldn't go so far as to say people are actively defending RationalMadnman, but plagiarism is not a trivial issue. If people are allowed to cheat then what is the point of voting at all? I'm sorry but if people on DDOG are going to trivialise or condone plagiarism then I really am not going to be part of it.

Nobody is condoning plagiarism; people just argued that it is not a ban-worthy offense. It should definitely cost him the debate, but nothing more. I fail to see how punishing someone is equivalent to condoning the behavior.
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10/1/2012 12:34:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/1/2012 12:29:48 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 10/1/2012 9:44:41 AM, QuantumOverlord wrote:
I am actually shocked at all the people that are dismissing this issue as trivial. I wouldn't go so far as to say people are actively defending RationalMadnman, but plagiarism is not a trivial issue. If people are allowed to cheat then what is the point of voting at all? I'm sorry but if people on DDOG are going to trivialise or condone plagiarism then I really am not going to be part of it.

Nobody is condoning plagiarism; people just argued that it is not a ban-worthy offense. It should definitely cost him the debate, but nothing more. I fail to see how punishing someone is equivalent to condoning the behavior.

I wasn't suggesting that peole here were defending this guy, more trivialising the issue. My main point was, he does this every single time (at least every debate i've seen him in), and I want to more than anything let people know that if they debate this guy he will cheat so it seems to me that if they were to loose, they would have lost unfairly without realising. Because of the fact he does it constantly and unashamedly, then why should he not be banned?
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10/1/2012 12:37:48 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/1/2012 12:34:58 PM, QuantumOverlord wrote:
At 10/1/2012 12:29:48 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
At 10/1/2012 9:44:41 AM, QuantumOverlord wrote:
I am actually shocked at all the people that are dismissing this issue as trivial. I wouldn't go so far as to say people are actively defending RationalMadnman, but plagiarism is not a trivial issue. If people are allowed to cheat then what is the point of voting at all? I'm sorry but if people on DDOG are going to trivialise or condone plagiarism then I really am not going to be part of it.

Nobody is condoning plagiarism; people just argued that it is not a ban-worthy offense. It should definitely cost him the debate, but nothing more. I fail to see how punishing someone is equivalent to condoning the behavior.


I wasn't suggesting that peole here were defending this guy, more trivialising the issue. My main point was, he does this every single time (at least every debate i've seen him in), and I want to more than anything let people know that if they debate this guy he will cheat so it seems to me that if they were to loose, they would have lost unfairly without realising. Because of the fact he does it constantly and unashamedly, then why should he not be banned?

Plagiarism is not a ban-worthy offense because it does not violate the TOS. The most simple way to get rid of him or to make him stop is to vote him down every time he does it.
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10/1/2012 2:01:26 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I don't think it's serious enough to demand banning. Failure to attribute to a source is a only conduct violation in the debate. If he put quotes around the argument and gave a link, the arguments would then become his legitimately to defend.

Of course, someone who copies a whole argument is unlikely to be capable of defending the argument. He is basically giving his opponent a free win. I doubt their any cases of winning with a copied case. Not only that, but it isn't good for advancing a cause. The arguments are likely to be thoroughly refuted with no significant rebuttal. It makes the cause look unsustainable.

To check for copied arguments, put a sentence from the case into a search engine with quotes around it. It fair to reveal the plagiarism in the debate or in the Comments.
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10/1/2012 4:21:53 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/1/2012 2:01:26 PM, RoyLatham wrote:
I don't think it's serious enough to demand banning. Failure to attribute to a source is a only conduct violation in the debate. If he put quotes around the argument and gave a link, the arguments would then become his legitimately to defend.

Of course, someone who copies a whole argument is unlikely to be capable of defending the argument. He is basically giving his opponent a free win. I doubt their any cases of winning with a copied case. Not only that, but it isn't good for advancing a cause. The arguments are likely to be thoroughly refuted with no significant rebuttal. It makes the cause look unsustainable.

To check for copied arguments, put a sentence from the case into a search engine with quotes around it. It fair to reveal the plagiarism in the debate or in the Comments.

I always do a paragraph, cos sometimes I nick a sentence or two that sounds nice. if that much is nicked, then it's almost certainly full-on plagiarism.
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10/1/2012 6:57:18 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
The thing about plagarism even though it isn't ban-worthy as it doesn't violate the TOS is that it is extremely frustrating to debate someone whom doesn't even think up their own ideas. (I feel) that people plagarize as the thing they are plagarizing has better arguments then they can think of and are just trying to rack up the wins.

Do you know what it's like being an idiot and going through 4 rounds of debate without knowing that your opponent plagarized because the arguments were bad anyways and finding out in the final round it's all plagarized AFTER typing your speech??????? If the opinions section had existed at the time I would've vented in there so hard. I enjoy mocking other's opinions when I'm mad.
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10/1/2012 7:12:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/1/2012 6:57:18 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
The thing about plagarism even though it isn't ban-worthy as it doesn't violate the TOS is that it is extremely frustrating to debate someone whom doesn't even think up their own ideas.

So just because YOU and a few other people get frustrated over something that could guarantee them an easy win, that constitutes a banning? Worst logic ive ever heard....

(I feel) that people plagarize as they think they are plagarizing has better arguments then they can think of and are just trying to rack up the wins.

Which when spotted can quickly turn into a loss and really screw up someones win ratio. Seriously if you spot someone plagiarizing just blow the whistle and people will hand you the debate on a silver platter, its that easy and really helps you way more then it helps the other person, so why fuss about banning them. You might as well establish a death penalty for people who attempt suicide because plagiarizing is basically suicide in a debate and banning them for that seems like overkill.

Do you know what it's like being an idiot and going through 4 rounds of debate without knowing that your opponent plagarized because the arguments were bad anyways and finding out in the final round it's all plagarized AFTER typing your speech???????

So wait, now youre complaining that because you were too stupid to realize that someone was plagiarizing, AND that even though they were plagiarizing the arguments they stole sucked to begin with, while you are still able to raise awareness about it to voters and easily win the debate anyways, that the other person should still be banned?

Edit: THAT is the worst logic ive ever heard.

If the opinions section had existed at the time I would've vented in there so hard. I enjoy mocking other's opinions when I'm mad.

Well im sure that frustrates other people, I guess then by your own logic you should be banned eh?
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10/1/2012 7:43:07 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/1/2012 7:12:07 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/1/2012 6:57:18 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
The thing about plagarism even though it isn't ban-worthy as it doesn't violate the TOS is that it is extremely frustrating to debate someone whom doesn't even think up their own ideas.

So just because YOU and a few other people get frustrated over something that could guarantee them an easy win, that constitutes a banning? Worst logic ive ever heard....

(I feel) that people plagarize as they think they are plagarizing has better arguments then they can think of and are just trying to rack up the wins.

Which when spotted can quickly turn into a loss and really screw up someones win ratio. Seriously if you spot someone plagiarizing just blow the whistle and people will hand you the debate on a silver platter, its that easy and really helps you way more then it helps the other person, so why fuss about banning them. You might as well establish a death penalty for people who attempt suicide because plagiarizing is basically suicide in a debate and banning them for that seems like overkill.

Do you know what it's like being an idiot and going through 4 rounds of debate without knowing that your opponent plagarized because the arguments were bad anyways and finding out in the final round it's all plagarized AFTER typing your speech???????

So wait, now youre complaining that because you were too stupid to realize that someone was plagiarizing, AND that even though they were plagiarizing the arguments they stole sucked to begin with, while you are still able to raise awareness about it to voters and easily win the debate anyways, that the other person should still be banned?

Edit: THAT is the worst logic ive ever heard.

If the opinions section had existed at the time I would've vented in there so hard. I enjoy mocking other's opinions when I'm mad.

Well im sure that frustrates other people, I guess then by your own logic you should be banned eh?

+1 to logic
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10/1/2012 11:25:28 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Just to let people know, Most countries laws allow a certain amount of work to be reproduced without consent of the owner. Ideas cannot be copyrighted, which is what DDO is mainly about. But those expressions of ideas can be plagiarised if no indication is given that the work belongs to someone else. If rationalmadman cites a source, and/or acknowledges the author, technically, its not plagarism, but it is outside the spirit of the debate and its lame. My very first debate here was against him but he debated very well, didn't have much to say, but nevertheless he was good in conduct.

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10/2/2012 3:53:33 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I just finished a debate with him. No problems, some of his thoughts are very interesting but he debated well and fairly.
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10/2/2012 5:30:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/1/2012 7:43:07 PM, Chicken wrote:
At 10/1/2012 7:12:07 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/1/2012 6:57:18 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
The thing about plagarism even though it isn't ban-worthy as it doesn't violate the TOS is that it is extremely frustrating to debate someone whom doesn't even think up their own ideas.

So just because YOU and a few other people get frustrated over something that could guarantee them an easy win, that constitutes a banning? Worst logic ive ever heard....

(I feel) that people plagarize as they think they are plagarizing has better arguments then they can think of and are just trying to rack up the wins.

Which when spotted can quickly turn into a loss and really screw up someones win ratio. Seriously if you spot someone plagiarizing just blow the whistle and people will hand you the debate on a silver platter, its that easy and really helps you way more then it helps the other person, so why fuss about banning them. You might as well establish a death penalty for people who attempt suicide because plagiarizing is basically suicide in a debate and banning them for that seems like overkill.

Do you know what it's like being an idiot and going through 4 rounds of debate without knowing that your opponent plagarized because the arguments were bad anyways and finding out in the final round it's all plagarized AFTER typing your speech???????

So wait, now youre complaining that because you were too stupid to realize that someone was plagiarizing, AND that even though they were plagiarizing the arguments they stole sucked to begin with, while you are still able to raise awareness about it to voters and easily win the debate anyways, that the other person should still be banned?

Edit: THAT is the worst logic ive ever heard.

If the opinions section had existed at the time I would've vented in there so hard. I enjoy mocking other's opinions when I'm mad.

Well im sure that frustrates other people, I guess then by your own logic you should be banned eh?

+1 to logic

My stance still has not changed. I have hated plagarizers since elementary when I would essentially do the entire groups work as they would plagarize and fail me, so I guess I'm biased.

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10/3/2012 2:08:18 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/2/2012 5:30:16 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
At 10/1/2012 7:43:07 PM, Chicken wrote:
At 10/1/2012 7:12:07 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/1/2012 6:57:18 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
The thing about plagarism even though it isn't ban-worthy as it doesn't violate the TOS is that it is extremely frustrating to debate someone whom doesn't even think up their own ideas.

So just because YOU and a few other people get frustrated over something that could guarantee them an easy win, that constitutes a banning? Worst logic ive ever heard....

(I feel) that people plagarize as they think they are plagarizing has better arguments then they can think of and are just trying to rack up the wins.

Which when spotted can quickly turn into a loss and really screw up someones win ratio. Seriously if you spot someone plagiarizing just blow the whistle and people will hand you the debate on a silver platter, its that easy and really helps you way more then it helps the other person, so why fuss about banning them. You might as well establish a death penalty for people who attempt suicide because plagiarizing is basically suicide in a debate and banning them for that seems like overkill.

Do you know what it's like being an idiot and going through 4 rounds of debate without knowing that your opponent plagarized because the arguments were bad anyways and finding out in the final round it's all plagarized AFTER typing your speech???????

So wait, now youre complaining that because you were too stupid to realize that someone was plagiarizing, AND that even though they were plagiarizing the arguments they stole sucked to begin with, while you are still able to raise awareness about it to voters and easily win the debate anyways, that the other person should still be banned?

Edit: THAT is the worst logic ive ever heard.

If the opinions section had existed at the time I would've vented in there so hard. I enjoy mocking other's opinions when I'm mad.

Well im sure that frustrates other people, I guess then by your own logic you should be banned eh?

+1 to logic


My stance still has not changed. I have hated plagarizers since elementary when I would essentially do the entire groups work as they would plagarize and fail me, so I guess I'm biased.

Speaking of shcool, on the periodic table, how many rows down the element is is the number of energy levels the element has, correct?

The period of an element is the same as its principal quantum number yes. You can think of this also as a 'shell' if you like.

But I agree with you, plagiarism should not be tolerated. I can imagine that people on here may even go away to university thinking that it is not a big deal. It is a big deal, it can get you kicked out of university as an undergraduate and ruined as a professor. In the real world plagiarism is not tolerated.
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10/5/2012 9:14:43 AM
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At 9/30/2012 11:52:37 AM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
At 9/30/2012 8:19:52 AM, Chicken wrote:
At 9/29/2012 10:52:36 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
At 9/29/2012 10:50:20 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 9/29/2012 10:49:12 PM, imabench wrote:
At 9/29/2012 9:49:51 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
He plagarized in my debate with him too: Eating steralized non-primate meat in moderation, is moral. I only caught him int he last round after noticing ZERO refutation through all of the other rounds and decided to check his source. I raged. I agree with the ban. Let's start a petition!

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10/6/2012 6:09:52 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/5/2012 9:14:43 AM, TheAntidoter wrote:
At 9/30/2012 11:52:37 AM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
At 9/30/2012 8:19:52 AM, Chicken wrote:
At 9/29/2012 10:52:36 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
At 9/29/2012 10:50:20 PM, OberHerr wrote:
At 9/29/2012 10:49:12 PM, imabench wrote:
At 9/29/2012 9:49:51 PM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
He plagarized in my debate with him too: Eating steralized non-primate meat in moderation, is moral. I only caught him int he last round after noticing ZERO refutation through all of the other rounds and decided to check his source. I raged. I agree with the ban. Let's start a petition!

People who think that RationalMadman should be banned
1) QuantumOverlord
2) ishallannoyyo

People who think Quantum and Ishallanooyyo are being overreactive and have a large stick lodged up their a** and are fussing about nothing.
1) Imabench
2) Chicken
Innocent Bystanders
1) OberHerr
2) Man-is-good

Ober and MiG, choose a side! OR DIE!! (but you know, not, not really I mean, but, don't like, stand on the sides, I'll go now)



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2) ishallannoyyo
3) TheAntidoter
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2) Chicken
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