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OberHerr
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9/29/2012 9:18:45 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
What kind of labels? And why is this in the DDO forums?
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Man-is-good
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9/29/2012 9:21:34 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Labels?
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Wallstreetatheist
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10/6/2012 4:43:20 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Like conservative, libertarian, metaphiscal realist, utilitarian, etc
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10/6/2012 5:31:07 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/6/2012 4:43:20 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
Like conservative, libertarian, metaphiscal realist, utilitarian, etc

I guess it makes it easier to say what you believe in without having to go on some big, complicated rant. Although most the time people will tend to say something along the lines of: I'm a libertarian except when it comes to certain issues. They usually have exceptions to their beliefs.
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10/6/2012 11:53:01 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/6/2012 4:43:20 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
Like conservative, libertarian, metaphiscal realist, utilitarian, etc

Wouldn't those be considered ideologies and philosophies more than "labels?"
Either way, I'd think most people should focus their stances on issues to fit with the ideology/philosophy the fit with the most, rather than changing their views to fit an ideology they "think" they [should] fit into.
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10/6/2012 12:38:40 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/29/2012 7:41:37 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
What is your opinion of labels?

See Imabench he's the "lable maker"
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10/6/2012 7:31:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Labels have a limited degree of use in my opinion. In the sense that they quickly and accurately provide a detailed insight into a person's views, they are quite useful.

However, one connotation of labels is adherence to a label. You are shutting out viewpoints to conform to a label. What do I mean? Let's say you're a conservative but support some progressive positions. These progressive positions and sort of pressured to be eliminated or changed in order to adapt a label. For a libertarian one issue might be negative externalities and how to deal with them. The libertarian identifies as a libertarian yet supports government intervention with negative externalities.

In this sense I find many ideologies (and by extension labels) somewhat poisonous to the intellect.
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Man-is-good
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10/6/2012 7:45:16 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/6/2012 12:38:40 PM, sadolite wrote:
At 9/29/2012 7:41:37 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
What is your opinion of labels?

See Imabench he's the "lable maker"

It's best not to give an empty answer...
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10/6/2012 9:09:19 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/6/2012 7:45:16 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
At 10/6/2012 12:38:40 PM, sadolite wrote:
At 9/29/2012 7:41:37 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
What is your opinion of labels?

See Imabench he's the "lable maker"

It's best not to give an empty answer...

Its sadolite, empty answers are thing only answers he gives (if any at all).
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10/6/2012 9:15:43 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I don't think they are a positive or negative in themselves. How people use labels is when they can become problems.

When people begin to glorify or demonize a label.

Other then it's a quick a easy way to determine the general stance of a person. I'm conservative so that will say certain things about me. I'm also a Catholic and that will also tell others that I believe certain things and lack belief in others.

Same with atheists, I will now they lack a belief in gods just as a Lutheran will now I lack belief in Sola Scriptura. It's all about belief systems, without three paragraph profiles.
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10/6/2012 10:58:33 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/6/2012 9:09:19 PM, imabench wrote:
At 10/6/2012 7:45:16 PM, Man-is-good wrote:
At 10/6/2012 12:38:40 PM, sadolite wrote:
At 9/29/2012 7:41:37 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
What is your opinion of labels?

See Imabench he's the "lable maker"

It's best not to give an empty answer...

Its sadolite, empty answers are thing only answers he gives (if any at all).

Or to continue adverse relationships, lol...
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10/7/2012 3:46:33 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/6/2012 7:31:58 PM, Logic_on_rails wrote:
Labels have a limited degree of use in my opinion. In the sense that they quickly and accurately provide a detailed insight into a person's views, they are quite useful.

However, one connotation of labels is adherence to a label. You are shutting out viewpoints to conform to a label. What do I mean? Let's say you're a conservative but support some progressive positions. These progressive positions and sort of pressured to be eliminated or changed in order to adapt a label. For a libertarian one issue might be negative externalities and how to deal with them. The libertarian identifies as a libertarian yet supports government intervention with negative externalities.

In this sense I find many ideologies (and by extension labels) somewhat poisonous to the intellect.

Excellent analysis. Thanks for sharing, Logic. :)
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10/7/2012 3:47:48 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/7/2012 2:34:30 AM, FREEDO wrote:
Their only function is deception.

So I find them highly useful.

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10/7/2012 9:48:02 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 9/29/2012 7:41:37 PM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
What is your opinion of labels?

Generalization and discrimination are the two elements of intelligence. Labels help with both.
ConservativePolitico
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10/9/2012 12:07:32 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Labels make it easy to classify people mentally. Everyone does it.

It helps your brain group things and is an inevitable part of enjoying the benefits of an intelligent mind. Your brain will automatically label people: smart, fat, cute, funny, annoying etc so when you need to bring something up you can do it quickly and efficiently.

It's something we all do, why deny it?

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