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Smithereens
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10/7/2012 1:32:28 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I figure that white people are not the only people in the world, old news to some, but new to most. So non-English debates are met with enthusiasm from people other sides of the world. Maybe if we did something to help new debaters who don't speak English become integrated with DDO, I think we are obliged. But I know not what to do.

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10/7/2012 1:35:20 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I believe that would be quite an interesting idea, and it might help the site by opening its breadth to others.
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10/7/2012 3:22:22 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Are we allowed to use any other language other than English and French? For example Chinese, Japanese or Korean?
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10/7/2012 4:49:01 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I haven't been able to use chinese characters on DDO, i have no idea why it turns into character text. DDO doesn't say anything against asian characters in the ToS which means its fine, if you know how to make them appear as proper symbols. Its probably just me, but if anyone knows anything Please say so.
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10/7/2012 5:33:27 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
大家们好。我的名字是 famer.
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10/7/2012 5:33:54 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/7/2012 5:33:27 AM, famer wrote:
大家们好。我的名字是 famer.

Lol, that's what I get when I typed in Chinese characters.
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10/7/2012 5:42:29 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/7/2012 5:33:54 AM, famer wrote:
At 10/7/2012 5:33:27 AM, famer wrote:
大家们好。我的名字是 famer.

Lol, that's what I get when I typed in Chinese characters.

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10/7/2012 9:30:32 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
There would be just about no votes. I can think of some members to debate who speak other languages, but I'm sure the turnout would be no readers and frankly no votes either.
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10/7/2012 11:16:13 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/7/2012 9:30:32 AM, Mirza wrote:
There would be just about no votes. I can think of some members to debate who speak other languages, but I'm sure the turnout would be no readers and frankly no votes either.
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10/7/2012 11:27:38 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/7/2012 11:16:13 AM, imabench wrote:
At 10/7/2012 9:30:32 AM, Mirza wrote:
There would be just about no votes. I can think of some members to debate who speak other languages, but I'm sure the turnout would be no readers and frankly no votes either.

Sit down, I'm going to tell you something that will blow. your. mind.

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10/7/2012 11:30:07 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/7/2012 11:27:38 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
At 10/7/2012 11:16:13 AM, imabench wrote:
At 10/7/2012 9:30:32 AM, Mirza wrote:
There would be just about no votes. I can think of some members to debate who speak other languages, but I'm sure the turnout would be no readers and frankly no votes either.

Sit down, I'm going to tell you something that will blow. your. mind.

You can translate languages using the powers of teh Interwebz! http://translate.google.com...

Very imperfect, in general.

Makes it undesirable for use in a situation for which technicality is important.
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10/7/2012 11:51:26 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
WHAT IF DOO AUTO-TRANSLATED DEBATES INTO YOUR LANGUAGE OF CHOICE :O

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10/7/2012 11:55:46 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/7/2012 11:27:38 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
Sit down, I'm going to tell you something that will blow. your. mind.

You can translate languages using the powers of teh Interwebz! http://translate.google.com...
Not useful. Grammar/spelling would be impossible to judge correctly, lots of sentences would be misunderstood (try translating idioms from Balkan languages into English), and sources would not be well-understood either.
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10/7/2012 12:51:58 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/7/2012 11:55:46 AM, Mirza wrote:
At 10/7/2012 11:27:38 AM, Wallstreetatheist wrote:
Sit down, I'm going to tell you something that will blow. your. mind.

You can translate languages using the powers of teh Interwebz! http://translate.google.com...
Not useful. Grammar/spelling would be impossible to judge correctly, lots of sentences would be misunderstood (try translating idioms from Balkan languages into English), and sources would not be well-understood either.

So then you don't grade the grammar or spelling. I'm reading the debate right now w/ translation and it works fine.
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10/7/2012 1:35:17 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/7/2012 3:22:22 AM, famer wrote:
Are we allowed to use any other language other than English and French? For example Chinese, Japanese or Korean?

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10/7/2012 1:39:25 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/7/2012 12:51:58 PM, darkkermit wrote:
So then you don't grade the grammar or spelling. I'm reading the debate right now w/ translation and it works fine.
Did you read what I wrote? Even if you don't judge the g/s, you will end up not understanding some points properly.
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10/7/2012 1:40:01 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I think it would help if we could use non Latin-script characters so we could type in other languages without it looking like にほんごをはなせますか。

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10/7/2012 2:33:08 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/7/2012 1:39:25 PM, Mirza wrote:
At 10/7/2012 12:51:58 PM, darkkermit wrote:
So then you don't grade the grammar or spelling. I'm reading the debate right now w/ translation and it works fine.
Did you read what I wrote? Even if you don't judge the g/s, you will end up not understanding some points properly.

I actually agree. Languages have some nuances and subtleties that an outright translation can't represent properly; many idioms, words with definitions appropriate for certain uses, phrases, cultural meanings and connotations are lost.

I'd prefer native speakers or anyone fluent with the language to debate in their own languages, rather see languages crippled through the use of a Google translator.
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10/7/2012 2:56:13 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I have a radical idea for this problem. Google Chrome has a translator in which when I click on a non-English debate, it translates quite well and way better than Google or some other search engine. I would say that we could upload a translator for Debate.org and translate it. We could also remove the "Grammar & Spelling" criteria for non-English debates.
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10/7/2012 3:55:38 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/7/2012 2:56:13 PM, Viper-King wrote:
I have a radical idea for this problem. Google Chrome has a translator in which when I click on a non-English debate, it translates quite well and way better than Google or some other search engine. I would say that we could upload a translator for Debate.org and translate it. We could also remove the "Grammar & Spelling" criteria for non-English debates.

The google chrome translator is actually the only way I've been able to communicate with you guys ^.^
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10/7/2012 6:43:53 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I think non-english debates would be fun. I can speak a little bit of German. Even if you need a translator to help you out here and there. If you're learning a language it would also be a good way to practise vocabulary outside of the classroom.

So if anyone wants to debate in Deutsch I'd be up for it.
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10/7/2012 9:40:45 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/7/2012 1:40:01 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
I think it would help if we could use non Latin-script characters so we could type in other languages without it looking like にほんごをはなせますか。

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10/8/2012 2:02:01 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/7/2012 11:51:26 AM, imabench wrote:
WHAT IF DOO AUTO-TRANSLATED DEBATES INTO YOUR LANGUAGE OF CHOICE :O

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google chrome will do it automatically for you if you want it too
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10/9/2012 12:00:55 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Couldn't they do a auto lingual transformation? Meaning, a Chinese person see's chinese but I see english. The word's change for the language selected.
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10/9/2012 4:27:46 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 10/9/2012 12:00:55 AM, Double_Helix46 wrote:
Couldn't they do a auto lingual transformation? Meaning, a Chinese person see's chinese but I see english. The word's change for the language selected.

Thats some pretty complex programs mate, and your browser may provide it if your lucky, DDO doesn't.
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10/9/2012 7:22:39 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I'm from Kilkenny, Ireland if that counts?
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10/9/2012 5:54:23 PM
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Don't blast me I'm Irish.
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