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11/6/2012 4:44:49 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Just wondering who here on DDO is fluent with the Japanese language and/or has an in-depth understanding of the Japanese culture, their "cultural rules" etc.?

Please let me know, as I am going to be travelling to Japan for a tour as well as a (short-term) homestay and would like to have some help with both the language and knowing:

1. How I should behave in front of my homestay family, what I should and shouldn't do etc.
2. What typical Japanese teenagers (most likely teenage guys), mothers and fathers would like to have as a gift (from Australia and preferably small items).

My Japanese isn't all that bad as I have been studying it for almost two years now, but there are phrases that I find as crucial when it comes to everyday communication and I haven't learnt yet in school.

Guess that's all I'm going to say for now. If you think there is anything else that I would find useful, please let me know :)

Thanks!
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11/6/2012 5:09:13 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/6/2012 4:44:49 AM, famer wrote:
Just wondering who here on DDO is fluent with the Japanese language and/or has an in-depth understanding of the Japanese culture, their "cultural rules" etc.?

Please let me know, as I am going to be travelling to Japan for a tour as well as a (short-term) homestay and would like to have some help with both the language and knowing:

1. How I should behave in front of my homestay family, what I should and shouldn't do etc.
2. What typical Japanese teenagers (most likely teenage guys), mothers and fathers would like to have as a gift (from Australia and preferably small items).

My Japanese isn't all that bad as I have been studying it for almost two years now, but there are phrases that I find as crucial when it comes to everyday communication and I haven't learnt yet in school.

Guess that's all I'm going to say for now. If you think there is anything else that I would find useful, please let me know :)

Thanks!

tip 1:in Japan land, let no one mistake samurai swords for nuclear bombs, its a delicate issue, how they came to have squinted eyes (nukes are bright)

tip 2: Never fight someone who is better than you, they will subdue you then wait for you to knife yourself in the stomach.

tip 3: Never start a fight in the first place: http://en.wikipedia.org...

tip 4: Dont be unsettled when going shopping. Its customary for store owners to shout at you when you enter, and follow you outside when you leave O_o It is also common for them to shout Welcome, when no one is there.

tip 5: When using the toilet, its considered bad luck if you are not wearing slippers

tip 6: You will be frowned upon for wearing a helmet while bike riding. You will also be frowned at if you dont wear gloves while riding

tip 7: Dont ask for directions if you're lost. Streets don't have names in Japan.

tip 8: a word of precaution, Bus drivers turn the buss of at red lights.

tip 9: Slurping is good

tip 10: tradition requires you to wash before entering the bath.

In short, Japanese culture is very different from what we are used to here in Australia, and if you are looking for a gift to give them, give them a classic Australian boomerang made in china, or if not, give them a wheel to study to advance their technology.

Btw, this ^ is all true.

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11/6/2012 8:02:03 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/6/2012 4:44:49 AM, famer wrote:
Just wondering who here on DDO is fluent with the Japanese language and/or has an in-depth understanding of the Japanese culture, their "cultural rules" etc.?

Please let me know, as I am going to be travelling to Japan for a tour as well as a (short-term) homestay and would like to have some help with both the language and knowing:

1. How I should behave in front of my homestay family, what I should and shouldn't do etc.
2. What typical Japanese teenagers (most likely teenage guys), mothers and fathers would like to have as a gift (from Australia and preferably small items).

My Japanese isn't all that bad as I have been studying it for almost two years now, but there are phrases that I find as crucial when it comes to everyday communication and I haven't learnt yet in school.

Guess that's all I'm going to say for now. If you think there is anything else that I would find useful, please let me know :)

Thanks!

I might be way off but it seems like Roy lived there for a while and maybe PCP.
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11/6/2012 11:31:51 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
I believe PCP knows Japanese. And I don't know anything about it except for the stuff I learned from anime... Japan seems awesome.
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11/6/2012 5:23:19 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I could tell you about Chinese culture, but not Japanese.
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11/6/2012 7:39:57 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/6/2012 5:25:29 PM, FREEDO wrote:
ConservativePolitico lives in Japan.

He lives in Florida. I think he goes to USF.
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11/6/2012 11:41:55 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
My daughter is going to be an exchange student next year to Japan. Boy is she in for a rude coulture shock. It is my understanding that the Japanese are polite to foreigners but will never accept you because you are not asian. You will never be part of their society.
It's not your views that divide us, it's what you think my views should be that divides us.

If you think I will give up my rights and forsake social etiquette to make you "FEEL" better you are sadly mistaken

If liberal democrats would just stop shooting people gun violence would drop by 90%
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11/6/2012 11:43:53 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/6/2012 11:41:55 PM, sadolite wrote:
My daughter is going to be an exchange student next year to Japan. Boy is she in for a rude coulture shock. It is my understanding that the Japanese are polite to foreigners but will never accept you because you are not asian. You will never be part of their society.

that applies to a very small minority, its like the white people who wont go near blacks.
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11/6/2012 11:46:05 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
You lucky duck. I have always wanted to move to Japan!

As far as cultural expectations, I know it is considered impolite not to impregnate at least one school girl with tentacles.
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11/6/2012 11:50:06 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Oh and don't go anywhere outside of the tourist traps unescorted. Again you are an outsider and should always conduct yourself accordingly and keep your opinions about their culture to yourself. They are far more brutal than we are in the US. Political correctness does not apply.
It's not your views that divide us, it's what you think my views should be that divides us.

If you think I will give up my rights and forsake social etiquette to make you "FEEL" better you are sadly mistaken

If liberal democrats would just stop shooting people gun violence would drop by 90%
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11/7/2012 1:43:08 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/6/2012 11:41:55 PM, sadolite wrote:
My daughter is going to be an exchange student next year to Japan. Boy is she in for a rude coulture shock. It is my understanding that the Japanese are polite to foreigners but will never accept you because you are not asian. You will never be part of their society.

I'm Chinese. But then again, all of the Japanese people I've met seem to accept non-asians perfectly fine.

Or maybe it's just because I've been living in Australia, an extremely multi-cultural and they have adapted to that type of style of living.

But other than that, do you think they'll "accept me" if I'm Chinese? Also, can you please specify what you meant but "accept".

Hope I didn't confuse anyone with this post. My thoughts are a bit mixed up too.
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11/7/2012 1:52:54 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
And now a tune by Evanescence;

"Bring Me To Life"
(feat. Paul McCoy)

How can you see into my eyes like open doors?
Leading you down into my core where I"ve become so numb
Without a soul my spirit's sleeping somewhere cold
until you find it there and lead it back home

(Wake me up)
Wake me up inside
(I can"t wake up)
Wake me up inside
(Save me)
call my name and save me from the dark
(Wake me up)
bid my blood to run
(I can"t wake up)
before I come undone
(Save me)
save me from the nothing I"ve become

now that I know what I"m without
you can't just leave me
breathe into me and make me real
bring me to life

(Wake me up)
Wake me up inside
(I can"t wake up)
Wake me up inside
(Save me)
call my name and save me from the dark
(Wake me up)
bid my blood to run
(I can"t wake up)
before I come undone
(Save me)
save me from the nothing I"ve become

Bring me to life
(I've been living a lie, there's nothing inside)
Bring me to life

frozen inside without your touch
Without your love, darling
only you are the life among the dead

all this time I can't believe I couldn't see
kept in the dark but you were there in front of me
I"ve been sleeping a thousand years it seems
got to open my eyes to everything
Without a thought, without a voice, without a soul
don't let me die here
there must be something more
bring me to life

(Wake me up)
Wake me up inside
(I can"t wake up)
Wake me up inside
(Save me)
call my name and save me from the dark
(Wake me up)
bid my blood to run
(I can"t wake up)
before I come undone
(Save me)
save me from the nothing I"ve become

(Bring me to life)
I"ve been living a lie, there"s nothing inside
(Bring me to life)
"not to toot my own horn (it aint need no tooin if u know what im saying), but my writings on "viciousness: the one true viture (fancy spelling for virtue)" and my poem "A poem I wrote about DDO" put me in a class of my damn own. im just an UNRECONGIZED geniuse" -bananafana
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11/7/2012 9:29:18 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/6/2012 11:50:06 PM, sadolite wrote:
Oh and don't go anywhere outside of the tourist traps unescorted. Again you are an outsider and should always conduct yourself accordingly and keep your opinions about their culture to yourself. They are far more brutal than we are in the US. Political correctness does not apply.

They wouldn't expect you to bow.
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11/7/2012 5:07:05 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/7/2012 1:43:08 AM, famer wrote:
At 11/6/2012 11:41:55 PM, sadolite wrote:
My daughter is going to be an exchange student next year to Japan. Boy is she in for a rude coulture shock. It is my understanding that the Japanese are polite to foreigners but will never accept you because you are not asian. You will never be part of their society.

I'm Chinese. But then again, all of the Japanese people I've met seem to accept non-asians perfectly fine.

Or maybe it's just because I've been living in Australia, an extremely multi-cultural and they have adapted to that type of style of living.

But other than that, do you think they'll "accept me" if I'm Chinese? Also, can you please specify what you meant but "accept".

Hope I didn't confuse anyone with this post. My thoughts are a bit mixed up too.

You will never be allowed access to their traditions and culture in a meaningful way, you will always be an outsider. Oh sure, they will put on a show for ya to be polite. But you would never be elected or appointed to any position of power.

DORE DORE
It's not your views that divide us, it's what you think my views should be that divides us.

If you think I will give up my rights and forsake social etiquette to make you "FEEL" better you are sadly mistaken

If liberal democrats would just stop shooting people gun violence would drop by 90%
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11/14/2012 5:36:55 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Just want to revive this forum because I've received information on my host family and it is confirmed that the entire family has a Buddhist upbringing.

Would that mean that the family wouldn't eat meat?
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11/15/2012 8:20:09 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I lived in Japan for a short while way back and have remained very interested in Japanese culture, returning on business and vacations quite a few times. I claim my knowledge of the Japanese language is better than "pathetic" but not quite good enough to be called "bad." Fortunately, many Japanese know some English. Students and businessmen are good bets, and shopkeepers in big cities commonly know some English.

I'm definitely a fan of things Japanese. They do things quite differently from the US, but their way of doing things works as well as ours, better in some ways, worse in others. It's fascinating.
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11/15/2012 8:48:33 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
1. How I should behave in front of my homestay family, what I should and shouldn't do etc.

Read a book on Japanese culture. Above all be polite. No one will expect you to know the details of Japanese cultural niceties, as there are so many that even the Japanese have trouble learning them all. However, polite is universal. Avoid direct criticisms and complaints. It will help a lot if you adapt to eating Japanese food. Don't try to use the formal mode of speech (-sama), it's reserved for the emporer and your mother-in-law. Informal is kind of tricky, so stick with the middle mode (-san, etc.) for a while.

2. What typical Japanese teenagers (most likely teenage guys), mothers and fathers would like to have as a gift (from Australia and preferably small items).

The best gifts are thing that are characteristic and unique to your home country. Avoid things that take display space, because homes are small. A nice picture book i good, for example. Be sure the gift is nicely wrapped. In Japan, gifts are not usually opened in front of the gift-giver, so don't be surprised if it is accepted and then put aside!

My Japanese isn't all that bad as I have been studying it for almost two years now, but there are phrases that I find as crucial when it comes to everyday communication and I haven't learnt yet in school.

Guess that's all I'm going to say for now. If you think there is anything else that I would find useful, please let me know :)

Get a guidebook like "Eyewitness Travel Guide to Japan." http://www.amazon.com... The Japan National Tourist Organization web site http://www.jnto.go.jp... has lots of information and links to many more resources. You might enjoy Peter Payne's blog about Japanese culture. http://www.peterpayne.net...

You are lucky. Wish I could go!
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11/16/2012 10:34:52 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/14/2012 5:36:55 AM, famer wrote:
Just want to revive this forum because I've received information on my host family and it is confirmed that the entire family has a Buddhist upbringing.

Would that mean that the family wouldn't eat meat?

Buddhists generally try to avoid meat. They are not as strict as Jains but, they avoid it. So if your host family are practicing Buddhists, you won't be eating basically any meat.
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11/17/2012 1:51:48 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
The only anti-outsider prejudice I've seen was on Hokkaido directed at Russian sailors. I wouldn't know for sure, but it's possible that Russian sailors are not keen on the fine points of politeness.

There's some truth in terms of being "totally accepted" into Japanese society. Being totally Japanese would mean knowing the million rules, conventions and traditions at Japanese must obey. t become Japanese citizen, official check your refrigerator to make sure you are eating Japanese food. I'd just as soon stay a bit outside and be granted some latitude.

Thirty years ago I would occasionally run into a Japanese WWII vet who hadn't gotten over the war thing. They'd get drunk and be annoying on the subway. I would say something gruff in English and they would stop. That's long gone now. Well, there are still drunks ...

Japan is one of the safest countries on earth. I'm told that there is now an area near Ueno in Tokyo that is not safe (for anyone) at night. I've never had a problem in either rural areas or the big cities.

In the 1800s a guy named Lafcadio Hearn went to live Japan and wrote some absolutely fascinating books on the society of the time. Recommended.