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What exactly does "No semantics" mean.

truthseeker613
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11/17/2012 5:20:03 PM
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Debaters often preface debates by saying "No semantics".

What exactly does that mean?
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11/17/2012 5:22:27 PM
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At 11/17/2012 5:20:03 PM, truthseeker613 wrote:
Debaters often preface debates by saying "No semantics".

What exactly does that mean?

It means dont screw around in the debate, spam it, make fun of it, use ridiculous arguments or definitions, etc.

Example: http://www.debate.org...
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11/17/2012 5:46:24 PM
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At 11/17/2012 5:20:03 PM, truthseeker613 wrote:
Debaters often preface debates by saying "No semantics".

What exactly does that mean?

It means that in the first round, you and the opponent will agree on the basic definitions of term, and after that you cannot challenge the opponent on the grounds of definitions (i.e. semantic content).

This avoids a tendency to devolve arguments into purely semantical.
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11/17/2012 5:47:45 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/17/2012 5:46:24 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 11/17/2012 5:20:03 PM, truthseeker613 wrote:
Debaters often preface debates by saying "No semantics".

What exactly does that mean?

It means that in the first round, you and the opponent will agree on the basic definitions of term, and after that you cannot challenge the opponent on the grounds of definitions (i.e. semantic content).

This avoids a tendency to devolve arguments into purely semantical.

For instance, you can give me any topic whatsoever, and using semantics I could argue your view is "false."

Basically, sophistry.
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11/17/2012 5:48:17 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
"No semantics" means no change of terms to turn the resolution into something your opponent very obviously does not wish to argue for. In arguments, it means changing the meaning of terms to win a point that your opponent neither argued for nor against.
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11/17/2012 5:48:29 PM
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At 11/17/2012 5:22:27 PM, imabench wrote:
At 11/17/2012 5:20:03 PM, truthseeker613 wrote:
Debaters often preface debates by saying "No semantics".

What exactly does that mean?

It means dont screw around in the debate, spam it, make fun of it, use ridiculous arguments or definitions, etc.

Example: http://www.debate.org...

That doesn't really have anything to do with semantics. It just means don't twist the definition of words to change the intent of the debate and give you a forced win.
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11/17/2012 5:48:37 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/17/2012 5:47:45 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 11/17/2012 5:46:24 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 11/17/2012 5:20:03 PM, truthseeker613 wrote:
Debaters often preface debates by saying "No semantics".

What exactly does that mean?

It means that in the first round, you and the opponent will agree on the basic definitions of term, and after that you cannot challenge the opponent on the grounds of definitions (i.e. semantic content).

This avoids a tendency to devolve arguments into purely semantical.

For instance, you can give me any topic whatsoever, and using semantics I could argue your view is "false."

Basically, sophistry.

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11/17/2012 6:25:16 PM
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At 11/17/2012 6:20:27 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
Huh. I thought it meant, "No Jews."

I laughed out loud.
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