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imabench
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11/20/2012 2:13:10 AM
Posted: 4 years ago
Since now the primaries are over and some of the past candidates have been eliminated, I believe that its time now to have another presidential poll.

http://poll.pollcode.com...
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11/20/2012 12:59:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Voted! (I'm voting Airmax)
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11/20/2012 1:02:00 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Airmax has my vote.
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11/20/2012 2:00:28 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Spinko and the Koopster. All the way to brown town. Because I'm racist. And thus can only vote for minorities (gingers and human-chicken hybrids).
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11/20/2012 4:36:28 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
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11/20/2012 4:37:42 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
this will be the first election in ages without jimtimmy running 0.0
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11/20/2012 5:03:29 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
Nothing against airmax, but what did he actually do? Also, now that we have 2 representatives from juggle that we can speak to, what's the point of having a president? It seems like people almost arbitrarily throw their support behind who they like most or who already has the most traction, so at the end of the day it just becomes a big, vain ceremony.
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11/20/2012 5:10:41 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/20/2012 5:09:30 PM, badger wrote:
einstein said let no man be idolised.

though i'm not sure we could get around it in how that statement is so attributed to him...
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11/20/2012 5:12:27 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/20/2012 5:10:41 PM, badger wrote:
At 11/20/2012 5:09:30 PM, badger wrote:
einstein said let no man be idolised.

though i'm not sure we could get around it in how that statement is so attributed to him...

LOOL
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11/20/2012 5:20:21 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/20/2012 5:03:29 PM, 000ike wrote:
Nothing against airmax, but what did he actually do? Also, now that we have 2 representatives from juggle that we can speak to, what's the point of having a president? It seems like people almost arbitrarily throw their support behind who they like most or who already has the most traction, so at the end of the day it just becomes a big, vain ceremony.

You realize that's how it started out? Innomen was the first to get any kind of mod abilities. It was initially basically just a popularity thing.
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11/20/2012 5:43:52 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/20/2012 5:03:29 PM, 000ike wrote:
Nothing against airmax, but what did he actually do? Also, now that we have 2 representatives from juggle that we can speak to, what's the point of having a president? It seems like people almost arbitrarily throw their support behind who they like most or who already has the most traction, so at the end of the day it just becomes a big, vain ceremony.

Lets see the big issues got updated, hes set straight many problematic people like fool_on_the_hill and a handful of others, he finally fixed the hall of fame which has been bugging me for a while, he doesnt ban people just because Royal asks him to, hes organized official debate tournaments which is something juggle cant do and that past presidents havent done before, he worked with juggle to give the site a new face and a massive update regarding the 'opinions' section whcih I am a fan of even though others arent.

Thats off the top of my head.
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11/20/2012 5:50:09 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/20/2012 5:20:21 PM, phantom wrote:
At 11/20/2012 5:03:29 PM, 000ike wrote:
Nothing against airmax, but what did he actually do? Also, now that we have 2 representatives from juggle that we can speak to, what's the point of having a president? It seems like people almost arbitrarily throw their support behind who they like most or who already has the most traction, so at the end of the day it just becomes a big, vain ceremony.

You realize that's how it started out? Innomen was the first to get any kind of mod abilities. It was initially basically just a popularity thing.

So is the election about who would be the best moderator and keep up the quality of the site by quashing flamewars (that aren't entertaining) and maybe starting some kind of system that encourages people to debate and vote more often? If that's the case, then why does SP/Koopin have 10 votes? I don't mean this in an insulting way, but SP really doesn't seem like he'd use that kind of interventionist prerogative....or moderating anything for that matter. And if the point of the election is to pick the best conduit between juggle and DDO, then doesn't Nate and that other person have that covered, and moreover, sp is 17...how is a company that has really taken a long time to actually so much as glace at this site, going to take a 17 year old seriously?
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11/20/2012 5:52:04 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/20/2012 5:50:09 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 11/20/2012 5:20:21 PM, phantom wrote:
At 11/20/2012 5:03:29 PM, 000ike wrote:
Nothing against airmax, but what did he actually do? Also, now that we have 2 representatives from juggle that we can speak to, what's the point of having a president? It seems like people almost arbitrarily throw their support behind who they like most or who already has the most traction, so at the end of the day it just becomes a big, vain ceremony.

You realize that's how it started out? Innomen was the first to get any kind of mod abilities. It was initially basically just a popularity thing.

So is the election about who would be the best moderator and keep up the quality of the site by quashing flamewars (that aren't entertaining) and maybe starting some kind of system that encourages people to debate and vote more often? If that's the case, then why does SP/Koopin have 10 votes? I don't mean this in an insulting way, but SP really doesn't seem like he'd use that kind of interventionist prerogative....or moderating anything for that matter. And if the point of the election is to pick the best conduit between juggle and DDO, then doesn't Nate and that other person have that covered, and moreover, sp is 17...how is a company that has really taken a long time to actually so much as glace at this site, going to take a 17 year old seriously?

Sp is 19 years old I believe. Bill Gates started Microsoft at 19.
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11/20/2012 5:54:15 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/20/2012 5:50:09 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 11/20/2012 5:20:21 PM, phantom wrote:
At 11/20/2012 5:03:29 PM, 000ike wrote:
Nothing against airmax, but what did he actually do? Also, now that we have 2 representatives from juggle that we can speak to, what's the point of having a president? It seems like people almost arbitrarily throw their support behind who they like most or who already has the most traction, so at the end of the day it just becomes a big, vain ceremony.

You realize that's how it started out? Innomen was the first to get any kind of mod abilities. It was initially basically just a popularity thing.

So is the election about who would be the best moderator and keep up the quality of the site by quashing flamewars (that aren't entertaining) and maybe starting some kind of system that encourages people to debate and vote more often? If that's the case, then why does SP/Koopin have 10 votes? I don't mean this in an insulting way, but SP really doesn't seem like he'd use that kind of interventionist prerogative....or moderating anything for that matter. And if the point of the election is to pick the best conduit between juggle and DDO, then doesn't Nate and that other person have that covered, and moreover, sp is 17...how is a company that has really taken a long time to actually so much as glace at this site, going to take a 17 year old seriously?

Not sure why you're arguing all this. You said what's the point of having a president anymore and implied that it's become a popularity thing. I was just pointing out that it was already a popularity thing initially so the whole idea of the president doesn't hinge on moderating.
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11/20/2012 6:00:24 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/20/2012 5:54:15 PM, phantom wrote:
At 11/20/2012 5:50:09 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 11/20/2012 5:20:21 PM, phantom wrote:
At 11/20/2012 5:03:29 PM, 000ike wrote:
Nothing against airmax, but what did he actually do? Also, now that we have 2 representatives from juggle that we can speak to, what's the point of having a president? It seems like people almost arbitrarily throw their support behind who they like most or who already has the most traction, so at the end of the day it just becomes a big, vain ceremony.

You realize that's how it started out? Innomen was the first to get any kind of mod abilities. It was initially basically just a popularity thing.

So is the election about who would be the best moderator and keep up the quality of the site by quashing flamewars (that aren't entertaining) and maybe starting some kind of system that encourages people to debate and vote more often? If that's the case, then why does SP/Koopin have 10 votes? I don't mean this in an insulting way, but SP really doesn't seem like he'd use that kind of interventionist prerogative....or moderating anything for that matter. And if the point of the election is to pick the best conduit between juggle and DDO, then doesn't Nate and that other person have that covered, and moreover, sp is 17...how is a company that has really taken a long time to actually so much as glace at this site, going to take a 17 year old seriously?

Not sure why you're arguing all this. You said what's the point of having a president anymore and implied that it's become a popularity thing. I was just pointing out that it was already a popularity thing initially so the whole idea of the president doesn't hinge on moderating.

My point was that I'm not getting how people are voting here, and initially I thought it was for random reasons, and then I mentioned the possible reasons that could make sense...but then didn't explain who the polls were going to.
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11/20/2012 6:05:26 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/20/2012 5:50:09 PM, 000ike wrote:
At 11/20/2012 5:20:21 PM, phantom wrote:
At 11/20/2012 5:03:29 PM, 000ike wrote:
Nothing against airmax, but what did he actually do? Also, now that we have 2 representatives from juggle that we can speak to, what's the point of having a president? It seems like people almost arbitrarily throw their support behind who they like most or who already has the most traction, so at the end of the day it just becomes a big, vain ceremony.

You realize that's how it started out? Innomen was the first to get any kind of mod abilities. It was initially basically just a popularity thing.

So is the election about who would be the best moderator and keep up the quality of the site by quashing flamewars (that aren't entertaining) and maybe starting some kind of system that encourages people to debate and vote more often? If that's the case, then why does SP/Koopin have 10 votes? I don't mean this in an insulting way, but SP really doesn't seem like he'd use that kind of interventionist prerogative....or moderating anything for that matter. And if the point of the election is to pick the best conduit between juggle and DDO, then doesn't Nate and that other person have that covered, and moreover, sp is 17...how is a company that has really taken a long time to actually so much as glace at this site, going to take a 17 year old seriously?

The mod's job isn't to stop flamewars. Furthermore, I've done plenty to encourage voting and quality debating since I joined the site, tournaments and voting groups being the preferred method. I'm not sure why you don't think I would take an "interventionist prerogative" honestly but if you could state why I'd be happy to put those thoughts to rest. On my age, I'm not sure what your point is. I'm young, so what? Does that mean I can't do the job as well as it should be done? If so, in what ways do you see any sort of limitation?
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11/20/2012 6:37:31 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
A comment from Ima prompted me to check on the status of the poll so.....woot woot! Spinko/Koopin 2012.
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11/20/2012 10:20:32 PM
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Ima, do you have any way of confirming that these are genuine results i.e., that someone isn't just coming in and voting a bunch of times?
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11/20/2012 10:33:02 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/20/2012 10:20:32 PM, socialpinko wrote:
Ima, do you have any way of confirming that these are genuine results i.e., that someone isn't just coming in and voting a bunch of times?

Nope , it's Chicago and we have no ID laws because it discriminates against the noob vote.

No, we can't tell. It tracks by cookies or IP.
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11/21/2012 1:07:03 PM
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At 11/20/2012 10:20:32 PM, socialpinko wrote:
Ima, do you have any way of confirming that these are genuine results i.e., that someone isn't just coming in and voting a bunch of times?

I designed the poll so that you could only cast your vote once per month so im 99% sure that these are genuine results.
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11/21/2012 1:10:36 PM
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At 11/21/2012 1:07:03 PM, imabench wrote:
I designed the poll so that you could only cast your vote once per month so im 99% sure that these are genuine results.
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11/21/2012 1:13:25 PM
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At 11/21/2012 1:11:32 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
The poll isn't entirely accurate anymore.

(Royal the way things work on here is that you explain why something isnt accurate, you dont just waltz in and say 'this isnt accurate anymore' and leave it at that)
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11/21/2012 2:44:56 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/21/2012 1:13:25 PM, imabench wrote:
At 11/21/2012 1:11:32 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
The poll isn't entirely accurate anymore.

(Royal the way things work on here is that you explain why something isnt accurate, you dont just waltz in and say 'this isnt accurate anymore' and leave it at that)

This.

And what do you mean by "anymore". At what point was it accurate?
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11/21/2012 2:50:12 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
At 11/21/2012 2:44:56 PM, jharry wrote:
At 11/21/2012 1:13:25 PM, imabench wrote:
At 11/21/2012 1:11:32 PM, royalpaladin wrote:
The poll isn't entirely accurate anymore.

(Royal the way things work on here is that you explain why something isnt accurate, you dont just waltz in and say 'this isnt accurate anymore' and leave it at that)

This.

And what do you mean by "anymore". At what point was it accurate?

My guess is that she used one of her multiaccounts to vote in the poll just because shes a d*ck....
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11/21/2012 4:04:22 PM
Posted: 4 years ago
I don't have any multiaccounts, and the poll is not even on the DDO website, so there is no way that I could use an alternate DDO account to vote in your poll since the other website checks for IP and cookies.

It's not accurate because I no longer support spinko.
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11/21/2012 5:10:40 PM
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I'm not to sure about the accuracy. Half as many people voted in this poll compared to the one a month ago. Looks like SP picked up three more votes and not as many people voted this time.

http://poll.pollcode.com...
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11/21/2012 6:08:22 PM
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At 11/21/2012 1:07:03 PM, imabench wrote:
At 11/20/2012 10:20:32 PM, socialpinko wrote:
Ima, do you have any way of confirming that these are genuine results i.e., that someone isn't just coming in and voting a bunch of times?

I designed the poll so that you could only cast your vote once per month so im 99% sure that these are genuine results.

It tracks by cookies. So I could clear cookies and put Pinko in the lead, but that would be immoral.
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