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Another Suggestion: Forfeit Option

Ike-Jin-Park
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1/23/2013 12:58:47 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
On DDO, there are alot of debates that gets forfeited. When this happens, the opponent has to wait until the debate ends and is also forced to at least make short comments such as "I extend my argument". After that, the debate goes on voting period which there is possibility of forfeited debator winning. I suggest adding an options in debates like "Forfeit" that ends the debate immediately.

On the other hand, it would also be nice to have a system where if both sides wants, the debate is recorded as a tie. There are cases where debate ends prematurely due to busy schedule and they agree on a tie but people vote on it. With this tie system, I think some unnecessary losses or wins can be avoided.
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1/23/2013 1:26:27 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Actually. This needs more thought. If two people go through an entire debate and one thinks they are losing, they could just forfeit in the last round.

If it gets around that, it becomes a great idea.
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1/23/2013 5:51:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/23/2013 12:58:47 AM, Ike-Jin-Park wrote:
On DDO, there are alot of debates that gets forfeited. When this happens, the opponent has to wait until the debate ends and is also forced to at least make short comments such as "I extend my argument". After that, the debate goes on voting period which there is possibility of forfeited debator winning. I suggest adding an options in debates like "Forfeit" that ends the debate immediately.

On the other hand, it would also be nice to have a system where if both sides wants, the debate is recorded as a tie. There are cases where debate ends prematurely due to busy schedule and they agree on a tie but people vote on it. With this tie system, I think some unnecessary losses or wins can be avoided.

Great ideas!
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1/23/2013 5:53:04 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
agreed.
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1/24/2013 8:15:20 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
What does that option do? And the debate, gives you points, and ends the voting period?
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1/24/2013 8:16:06 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/24/2013 8:15:20 AM, 16kadams wrote:
What does that option do? And the debate, gives you points, and ends the voting period?

Because ending the debate doesn't mean the other person wins ;)
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1/24/2013 8:51:10 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
This is likely to lead to sob stories when one of the debaters is clearly losing and wants to salvage a tie or a "no contest." "My dog died and a have a math test tomorrow, so between grief counseling and studying I have no time to finish the debate. Can we just call it a draw?" Perhaps points could be separately awarded for the best tale of woe.
Ike-Jin-Park
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1/24/2013 10:23:23 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
To combat the problem of one side that is losing the debate wishing to end the debate as a tie, we can make a "tie" something that both sides have to agree upon.

For "forfeit" option, I think we can grant the power to each side and whoever forfeits will lose immediately. It is in fact very annoying to post something agasint forfeited rounds and wait until these debates end.