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1/26/2013 2:04:17 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
You all probably know this, but I am full of crap. When I came to this website, man that was a long time ago now, I held and defended some odd views. I'm not going to say I think those views were totally wrong, but I will say that they were at least partially wrong and that I was wrong for putting so much energy into defending them.

I'm gonna guess that a good deal of people that are currently on DDO don't know who I am. For the ones who do know me, they probably only know the "troll" jimtimmy.

Believe it or not, and very few remember it, I was once a serious member who spent most of his time debating real things. I wasn't much well liked then because of my views, but I was a serious member.

I really haven't been a part of this community in a good or bad way for almost 6 months now. But, I still feel like I should apologize to those who do remember me. I'm sorry for degrading the site. Particularly, I am sorry for degrading a site that is built around something I love: debate.

As I said, I'm not really an active member anymore, but I just felt like I should do this to smooth over any loose ends.

I know I'll never be remembered fondly on this site. But, I feel like people should at least now that I was aware of how I was being perceived.

I will miss some of my times on this site. Without this site, I would have gone crazy out of loneliness during the late 2011 to early 2012 period.

But, I just want to look back a bit at some of the times:

1.) The infamous race thread between me and Wnope.

2.) My December of 2011 campaign.

3.) My first leaving of the site with a genuine apology.

4.) Coming back to the site with the revelation that I had been multiaccounting with Ameriman.

5.) My June of 2012 presidential election.

6.) 16kadams betrayal and public denouncement of me that forced my next departure.

7.) My trolling phase.

In the end, I am to blame for virtually all of my problems on this site. I may try to come back to this site as a serious, policy minded debater (or perhaps I already have).

So, to all on this site, I bid farewell and offer a genuine apology.
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1/26/2013 2:05:14 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
We all love you, jimtimmy.
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1/26/2013 2:11:15 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/26/2013 2:04:17 AM, jimtimmy wrote:
You all probably know this, but I am full of crap. When I came to this website, man that was a long time ago now, I held and defended some odd views. I'm not going to say I think those views were totally wrong, but I will say that they were at least partially wrong and that I was wrong for putting so much energy into defending them.

I'm gonna guess that a good deal of people that are currently on DDO don't know who I am. For the ones who do know me, they probably only know the "troll" jimtimmy.

Believe it or not, and very few remember it, I was once a serious member who spent most of his time debating real things. I wasn't much well liked then because of my views, but I was a serious member.

I really haven't been a part of this community in a good or bad way for almost 6 months now. But, I still feel like I should apologize to those who do remember me. I'm sorry for degrading the site. Particularly, I am sorry for degrading a site that is built around something I love: debate.

As I said, I'm not really an active member anymore, but I just felt like I should do this to smooth over any loose ends.

I know I'll never be remembered fondly on this site. But, I feel like people should at least now that I was aware of how I was being perceived.

I will miss some of my times on this site. Without this site, I would have gone crazy out of loneliness during the late 2011 to early 2012 period.

But, I just want to look back a bit at some of the times:

1.) The infamous race thread between me and Wnope.

2.) My December of 2011 campaign.

3.) My first leaving of the site with a genuine apology.

4.) Coming back to the site with the revelation that I had been multiaccounting with Ameriman.

5.) My June of 2012 presidential election.

6.) 16kadams betrayal and public denouncement of me that forced my next departure.

7.) My trolling phase.


In the end, I am to blame for virtually all of my problems on this site. I may try to come back to this site as a serious, policy minded debater (or perhaps I already have).

So, to all on this site, I bid farewell and offer a genuine apology.

This must have taken a lot of balls to do this, and I respect you a lot now for it.
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1/26/2013 3:08:14 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
I don't suffer from insanity; I enjoy every minute of it.

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1/26/2013 3:29:09 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
......well......that was unexpected.

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1/26/2013 10:30:58 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/26/2013 2:05:14 AM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
We all love you, President jimtimmy.
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1/26/2013 11:49:48 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/26/2013 2:04:17 AM, jimtimmy wrote:
You all probably know this, but I am full of crap. When I came to this website, man that was a long time ago now, I held and defended some odd views. I'm not going to say I think those views were totally wrong, but I will say that they were at least partially wrong and that I was wrong for putting so much energy into defending them.

I'm gonna guess that a good deal of people that are currently on DDO don't know who I am. For the ones who do know me, they probably only know the "troll" jimtimmy.

Believe it or not, and very few remember it, I was once a serious member who spent most of his time debating real things. I wasn't much well liked then because of my views, but I was a serious member.

I really haven't been a part of this community in a good or bad way for almost 6 months now. But, I still feel like I should apologize to those who do remember me. I'm sorry for degrading the site. Particularly, I am sorry for degrading a site that is built around something I love: debate.

As I said, I'm not really an active member anymore, but I just felt like I should do this to smooth over any loose ends.

I know I'll never be remembered fondly on this site. But, I feel like people should at least now that I was aware of how I was being perceived.

I will miss some of my times on this site. Without this site, I would have gone crazy out of loneliness during the late 2011 to early 2012 period.

But, I just want to look back a bit at some of the times:

1.) The infamous race thread between me and Wnope.

2.) My December of 2011 campaign.

3.) My first leaving of the site with a genuine apology.

4.) Coming back to the site with the revelation that I had been multiaccounting with Ameriman.

5.) My June of 2012 presidential election.

6.) 16kadams betrayal and public denouncement of me that forced my next departure.

7.) My trolling phase.


In the end, I am to blame for virtually all of my problems on this site. I may try to come back to this site as a serious, policy minded debater (or perhaps I already have).

So, to all on this site, I bid farewell and offer a genuine apology.

You have just earned my respect. It takes a man to admit he was wrong. Welcome back
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1/26/2013 12:17:59 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
narcissism
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1/26/2013 12:43:16 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
http://debate.org...

imabench - "[I]t takes balls to do what he did and i do respect him a lot for doing this now."
Ober - "Cool. Glad you owned up to your mistakes. You have more courage than a good deal of people in the world, and thats no small thing."

Come on guys. I mean. Really? Really?

The linked thread was 9 months ago. Look at his behavior still then. Did he maintain the level of "respect" from you since his first post? Do you really think he'll maintain it from here on out? You keep rewarding him, he'll keep doing it.
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1/26/2013 2:04:28 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I would be perfectly fine with you being an actual member.
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1/26/2013 2:04:41 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/26/2013 12:43:16 PM, drafterman wrote:

Come on guys. I mean. Really? Really?

The linked thread was 9 months ago. Look at his behavior still then. Did he maintain the level of "respect" from you since his first post? Do you really think he'll maintain it from here on out? You keep rewarding him, he'll keep doing it.

If he keeps acting like a conservative hack dumba** troll who multiaccounts for his own doomed to fail campaigns, then Ill go right back to insulting him like ive done for the past couple of months. But if hes willing to make amends for his previous retardation then what motive is there to shoot him down? Fool on the hill turned around and mouthwash improved decently sicne his spat with inferno, I see no reason why Jimtimmy cant become a respectable member again if those other two idiots could pull it off.
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1/26/2013 2:23:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/26/2013 12:17:59 PM, sadolite wrote:
narcissism

agreed. the fact is most people really cares that much at all jimtimmy. you haven't degraded the site at all. Its only when you do annoying sh1t and attention whoring that people start hating on you. I'd consider this attention whoring. If you just contribute regularly to the forums, then people wouldn't have a problem. You provide great incite on many topics. You've helped changed my underlying belief system. Yet then you go around trolling the Debate.org forums section with attention whoring bullsh1t and telling lame lies, which gives everyone the ughhhh feeling.

Words are cheap, but actions are not. Act respectfully on debate.org, and people won't care about your past actions.
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1/26/2013 2:24:21 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/26/2013 2:04:41 PM, imabench wrote:
At 1/26/2013 12:43:16 PM, drafterman wrote:

Come on guys. I mean. Really? Really?

The linked thread was 9 months ago. Look at his behavior still then. Did he maintain the level of "respect" from you since his first post? Do you really think he'll maintain it from here on out? You keep rewarding him, he'll keep doing it.

If he keeps acting like a conservative hack dumba** troll who multiaccounts for his own doomed to fail campaigns, then Ill go right back to insulting him like ive done for the past couple of months. But if hes willing to make amends for his previous retardation then what motive is there to shoot him down?

Because his previous amends apparently didn't amount to much?

Fool on the hill turned around and mouthwash improved decently sicne his spat with inferno, I see no reason why Jimtimmy cant become a respectable member again if those other two idiots could pull it off.
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1/26/2013 2:25:15 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/26/2013 2:04:41 PM, imabench wrote:
At 1/26/2013 12:43:16 PM, drafterman wrote:

Come on guys. I mean. Really? Really?

The linked thread was 9 months ago. Look at his behavior still then. Did he maintain the level of "respect" from you since his first post? Do you really think he'll maintain it from here on out? You keep rewarding him, he'll keep doing it.

If he keeps acting like a conservative hack dumba** troll who multiaccounts for his own doomed to fail campaigns, then Ill go right back to insulting him like ive done for the past couple of months. But if hes willing to make amends for his previous retardation then what motive is there to shoot him down? Fool on the hill turned around and mouthwash improved decently sicne his spat with inferno, I see no reason why Jimtimmy cant become a respectable member again if those other two idiots could pull it off.

strongly disagree. mouthwash has been a constant arrogant prick. don't interact enough with fool on the hill to notice anything.
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1/26/2013 2:37:01 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/26/2013 12:43:16 PM, drafterman wrote:
http://debate.org...

imabench - "[I]t takes balls to do what he did and i do respect him a lot for doing this now."
Ober - "Cool. Glad you owned up to your mistakes. You have more courage than a good deal of people in the world, and thats no small thing."

Come on guys. I mean. Really? Really?


Lmao I was thinking the same thing.

My thoughts on this thread: "He doesn't even go here!"

The linked thread was 9 months ago. Look at his behavior still then. Did he maintain the level of "respect" from you since his first post? Do you really think he'll maintain it from here on out? You keep rewarding him, he'll keep doing it.
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1/26/2013 2:57:10 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/26/2013 2:24:21 PM, drafterman wrote:
At 1/26/2013 2:04:41 PM, imabench wrote:
At 1/26/2013 12:43:16 PM, drafterman wrote:

Come on guys. I mean. Really? Really?

The linked thread was 9 months ago. Look at his behavior still then. Did he maintain the level of "respect" from you since his first post? Do you really think he'll maintain it from here on out? You keep rewarding him, he'll keep doing it.

If he keeps acting like a conservative hack dumba** troll who multiaccounts for his own doomed to fail campaigns, then Ill go right back to insulting him like ive done for the past couple of months. But if hes willing to make amends for his previous retardation then what motive is there to shoot him down?

Because his previous amends apparently didn't amount to much?

If this one goes the same way then everyone will go right back to realizing how full of sh*t he may be. Then after that any number of apologies from him would be meaningless since history has shown that they were bullsh*t.

Fool on the hill turned around and mouthwash improved decently sicne his spat with inferno, I see no reason why Jimtimmy cant become a respectable member again if those other two idiots could pull it off.
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1/26/2013 2:58:46 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/26/2013 2:25:15 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 1/26/2013 2:04:41 PM, imabench wrote:
At 1/26/2013 12:43:16 PM, drafterman wrote:

Come on guys. I mean. Really? Really?

The linked thread was 9 months ago. Look at his behavior still then. Did he maintain the level of "respect" from you since his first post? Do you really think he'll maintain it from here on out? You keep rewarding him, he'll keep doing it.

If he keeps acting like a conservative hack dumba** troll who multiaccounts for his own doomed to fail campaigns, then Ill go right back to insulting him like ive done for the past couple of months. But if hes willing to make amends for his previous retardation then what motive is there to shoot him down? Fool on the hill turned around and mouthwash improved decently sicne his spat with inferno, I see no reason why Jimtimmy cant become a respectable member again if those other two idiots could pull it off.

strongly disagree. mouthwash has been a constant arrogant prick. don't interact enough with fool on the hill to notice anything.

I havent seen mouthwash completely go off in a debate like he did against the bomb, I havent seen him make a multiaccount to parody inferno and try to make him get banned, and now that hes put the crap he had with Danielle behind him I havent heard a thing from him..... MW has come a long way from the level of retardation he was at before.
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1/26/2013 3:04:43 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/26/2013 12:43:16 PM, drafterman wrote:
http://debate.org...

imabench - "[I]t takes balls to do what he did and i do respect him a lot for doing this now."
Ober - "Cool. Glad you owned up to your mistakes. You have more courage than a good deal of people in the world, and thats no small thing."

Come on guys. I mean. Really? Really?

The linked thread was 9 months ago. Look at his behavior still then. Did he maintain the level of "respect" from you since his first post? Do you really think he'll maintain it from here on out? You keep rewarding him, he'll keep doing it.

Agreed. Why is it that an apology suddenly means we should suddenly care massively about them?

Assuming I was in jimtimmy's shoes, and assuming he is still trolling, I'd be laughing my arse of at this point. The banality of it all is just astounding.
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1/26/2013 4:26:16 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/26/2013 2:37:01 PM, tulle wrote:
At 1/26/2013 12:43:16 PM, drafterman wrote:
http://debate.org...

imabench - "[I]t takes balls to do what he did and i do respect him a lot for doing this now."
Ober - "Cool. Glad you owned up to your mistakes. You have more courage than a good deal of people in the world, and thats no small thing."

Come on guys. I mean. Really? Really?


Lmao I was thinking the same thing.

My thoughts on this thread: "He doesn't even go here!"

LOL XD

The linked thread was 9 months ago. Look at his behavior still then. Did he maintain the level of "respect" from you since his first post? Do you really think he'll maintain it from here on out? You keep rewarding him, he'll keep doing it.
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1/26/2013 6:33:48 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I kind of agree with Drafter. But then again: "He who is without sin, let him cast the first stone."
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1/26/2013 6:38:40 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/26/2013 2:25:15 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 1/26/2013 2:04:41 PM, imabench wrote:
At 1/26/2013 12:43:16 PM, drafterman wrote:

Come on guys. I mean. Really? Really?

The linked thread was 9 months ago. Look at his behavior still then. Did he maintain the level of "respect" from you since his first post? Do you really think he'll maintain it from here on out? You keep rewarding him, he'll keep doing it.

If he keeps acting like a conservative hack dumba** troll who multiaccounts for his own doomed to fail campaigns, then Ill go right back to insulting him like ive done for the past couple of months. But if hes willing to make amends for his previous retardation then what motive is there to shoot him down? Fool on the hill turned around and mouthwash improved decently sicne his spat with inferno, I see no reason why Jimtimmy cant become a respectable member again if those other two idiots could pull it off.

strongly disagree. mouthwash has been a constant arrogant prick. don't interact enough with fool on the hill to notice anything.

Hmm, that is surprising. I thought he was friendly with the conservatives.
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1/26/2013 6:41:11 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/26/2013 6:33:48 PM, TUF wrote:
I kind of agree with Drafter. But then again: "He who is without sin, let him cast the first stone."

Then again: Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice ... uh ... never get fooled again.
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1/26/2013 6:42:22 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
*yawn*

You know what I would like to see from you jimtimmy?
You to completely stop these self centred posts.

I don't give a fvck about your apology. It's still a jimtimmy thread about fvcking jimtimmy the attention whore. You're just some guy on the internet. I don't want sincerity from you. I don't want anything from you. For most people, even the most active members, you don't remotely register on the care-o-meter.

Start commenting on threads with non-troll posts. Start doing debates properly. If anyone treats you with bias based on your old exploits, ignore them.

Go back to the 'serious member' that you supposedly were, then you might start to matter again.
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1/26/2013 6:44:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/26/2013 2:25:15 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 1/26/2013 2:04:41 PM, imabench wrote:
At 1/26/2013 12:43:16 PM, drafterman wrote:

Come on guys. I mean. Really? Really?

The linked thread was 9 months ago. Look at his behavior still then. Did he maintain the level of "respect" from you since his first post? Do you really think he'll maintain it from here on out? You keep rewarding him, he'll keep doing it.

If he keeps acting like a conservative hack dumba** troll who multiaccounts for his own doomed to fail campaigns, then Ill go right back to insulting him like ive done for the past couple of months. But if hes willing to make amends for his previous retardation then what motive is there to shoot him down? Fool on the hill turned around and mouthwash improved decently sicne his spat with inferno, I see no reason why Jimtimmy cant become a respectable member again if those other two idiots could pull it off.

strongly disagree. mouthwash has been a constant arrogant prick. don't interact enough with fool on the hill to notice anything.

Yeah, because I don't listen to your condescension and BS when you tell me how lazy I am for dropping out.
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1/26/2013 6:51:23 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/26/2013 2:48:08 PM, Wnope wrote:
I'll take it.

JT, you're on probationary "clean slate" status.

This probably the best option.
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1/26/2013 7:06:10 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/26/2013 2:58:46 PM, imabench wrote:
At 1/26/2013 2:25:15 PM, darkkermit wrote:
At 1/26/2013 2:04:41 PM, imabench wrote:
At 1/26/2013 12:43:16 PM, drafterman wrote:

Come on guys. I mean. Really? Really?

The linked thread was 9 months ago. Look at his behavior still then. Did he maintain the level of "respect" from you since his first post? Do you really think he'll maintain it from here on out? You keep rewarding him, he'll keep doing it.

If he keeps acting like a conservative hack dumba** troll who multiaccounts for his own doomed to fail campaigns, then Ill go right back to insulting him like ive done for the past couple of months. But if hes willing to make amends for his previous retardation then what motive is there to shoot him down? Fool on the hill turned around and mouthwash improved decently sicne his spat with inferno, I see no reason why Jimtimmy cant become a respectable member again if those other two idiots could pull it off.

strongly disagree. mouthwash has been a constant arrogant prick. don't interact enough with fool on the hill to notice anything.

I havent seen mouthwash completely go off in a debate like he did against the bomb, I havent seen him make a multiaccount to parody inferno and try to make him get banned, and now that hes put the crap he had with Danielle behind him I havent heard a thing from him..... MW has come a long way from the level of retardation he was at before.

He's debate wasn't that long ago, so i don't see that as a huge change. You can also see him still acting antognistic towards Danielle:
http://debate.org...

@F-16, Mouthwash and Lordknuckle aren't too friendly.
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1/26/2013 8:30:33 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 1/26/2013 6:42:22 PM, tvellalott wrote:
*yawn*

You know what I would like to see from you jimtimmy?
You to completely stop these self centred posts.

I don't give a fvck about your apology. It's still a jimtimmy thread about fvcking jimtimmy the attention whore. You're just some guy on the internet. I don't want sincerity from you. I don't want anything from you. For most people, even the most active members, you don't remotely register on the care-o-meter.

Start commenting on threads with non-troll posts. Start doing debates properly. If anyone treats you with bias based on your old exploits, ignore them.

Go back to the 'serious member' that you supposedly were, then you might start to matter again.

BOOM headshot.
"I've got to go and grab a shirt" ~ Airmax1227