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Why bother debating?

larztheloser
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3/13/2013 5:20:41 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Here's a video that's been around for a few months, just thought I'd share it around because I can't get the tune out of my head, and because it explains why debating is so important to me and to the world. I know I'm sort of preaching to the converted here, but it's worth watching anyway if you haven't.

Also: it's proof that the Indian Debating Union has the best practice sessions, though I presume it's usually more than just four people.

I do want to ask everybody though - do you have such lofty things in mind when you're debating? Or are you more in it for the social aspect, the kind of debater that usually goes out drinking after your debates? Or is it more the competitive aspect that gets you? Is it to explore different ideas or perspectives? Do you enjoy meeting new people, or is this just another way to kill time on the internet perhaps?

As a bit of an amateur sociologist, I'm particularly interested in whether there are any differences in people's debating motivations "online" vs "IRL", and what those might be.

Why do you bother debating?
imabench
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3/13/2013 10:18:33 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
The reason I debate is purely for entertainment of others at this point.... Im actually planning on starting a debate called:

"John Jameson saved all of Ireland from the Prussian Incursion of 1807"

Just for sh*ts and giggles....
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philochristos
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3/13/2013 1:32:28 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
My primary goal in debating is entertainment. It's like playing chess. Plus, I am genuinely interested in how other people think.

My secondary goal is to submit my own views to scrutiny in hopes of sharpening them or abandoning them if necessary.

My tertiary goal is to persuade the readers of my point of view. Of course that's not the case when I'm playing devil's advocate.

Although it would be nice if my opponent was persuaded, that's almost never my goal.
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3/13/2013 3:03:20 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Increased knowledge and competition. The exhaustive amount of research needed to do a debate on current issues, politics, or technology is a great source of knowledge. It is a better method of learning new things than simply reading. Reading can sometimes be passive. I can never bring myself to read a full page of political/economic news. However, when I am looking for data to support my arguments, I aggressively pursue that goal, research actively, skim unnecessary parts, get to the core of what the data means and how to interpret it. This aggressive reading improves knowledge far more than passively reading things. The desire to back up your data with better sources also leads to reading more credible sources rather than casual blogs. The competitive spirit and desire to win drives the thirst for research and the accumulation of knowledge. A debate truly is an experience by itself and in most debates I've done, win or lose, I am glad I did them.
Zaradi
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3/13/2013 6:01:59 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
IRL: Mostly do it to expand my view of the world, to pit my ideas and concepts of morals and the world against others and have them fight to the death over a simple resolution. I enjoy hearing how people read and interpret philosophy, as well as how they decide to use it and what they can justify with it. I enjoy hearing all of the "out-there" ideas that are a good part of the debating community (at least where I compete), and enjoy the challenge of having to critique something I'd never heard of before that moment. It's a strenuous mental sport that has shaped who I am and, in all of it's corny might, changed my life, for better or for worse.

Online: Mostly for sh*ts and giggles, with a side of "I need to waste some time" thrown in there for fun.
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likespeace
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3/13/2013 8:43:12 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
> Is it to explore different ideas or perspectives?

The key for me is learning. While I've won almost all my debates, I wager my opinions on the associated matters have changed more than those of my average opponent. I have complete respect for those who concede a well-argued debate.
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3/13/2013 8:46:51 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I would add, I'm very competitive, but only ever with myself.

"Deep in our soul a quiet ember knows its you against you; it's the paradox that drives us on."
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3/13/2013 10:19:53 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Call me a nerd, but I mainly do it to learn. Who wants to read MSNBC or Fox News, when you can just talk to another person about it.
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3/14/2013 12:56:18 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
To hear different points of view, & to make other points of view heard/understood.
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3/14/2013 9:14:32 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/13/2013 5:20:41 AM, larztheloser wrote:

Why do you bother debating?

Debating is one of my stronger skills.

I have a deep passion about the issues which effect our society. I am concerned with the welfare of other people and want society to be better off, through debate I can put forth my vision of a better, freer society. Being only 16, I can't do that much, but I do feel like I am making a positive difference in my community, because I have had accomplishments as well as setbacks.

But the state and gov't in general is opposed to any form of change.

It is a fun activity, I enjoy success, and I am competitive.
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