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3/15/2013 12:35:09 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Once again, people have to act like children and vote bomb my debate.
http://www.debate.org...

thett3:
"time to join the party, counter proglib lololololol no, but seriously Daktoria is making his own arguments about the resolution, not anayzing the debate. Qopel got wrecked in this debate"
"go ahead and report me"

When I said I would report him,
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People are actually CVBing CVBs!
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3/15/2013 12:36:37 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I encourage everyone to read what happened in context before passing judgement. The vote I counter was a CVB to a CVB (lol), but I think we can all agree the original vote was a bomb. He was constructing his own arguments, no analysis of the debate
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3/15/2013 12:47:28 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Alright heres what happened:

Daktoria gave a 7 point vote on this debate in qopel's favor in this debate
http://www.debate.org...

Daktoria though has a history of voting based on his own opinion rather then arguments presented, so I countered his 7 point votebomb.

Following my counter, qopel lost his mind and proceeded on votebombing several of my debates in retaliation like a baby, and then in a PM he sent me he threatened to report me to the authorities in a childish attempt to blackmail me. After pointing out how full of sh*t he was and how much of a hypocrite he is being, he left the PM and apparently made a forum about the whole thing.

If you have had similar attacks from Qopel where he attacked you because you didnt vote in his favor on any of his debates, feel free to post about it in this thread.
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3/15/2013 1:02:04 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
You cant expect to get a fair hearing on a site with a religious majority there will always be stupid people votingagainst rational logic because of their preconcived biases.
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3/15/2013 1:10:11 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/15/2013 1:02:04 PM, atheismo wrote:
You cant expect to get a fair hearing on a site with a religious majority there will always be stupid people votingagainst rational logic because of their preconcived biases.

There isnt a religious majority on this site.
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3/15/2013 1:11:02 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/15/2013 1:02:04 PM, atheismo wrote:
You cant expect to get a fair hearing on a site with a religious majority there will always be stupid people votingagainst rational logic because of their preconcived biases.

Qopel isn't exactly known for making rational arguments though
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3/15/2013 1:17:33 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/15/2013 1:11:02 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/15/2013 1:02:04 PM, atheismo wrote:
You cant expect to get a fair hearing on a site with a religious majority there will always be stupid people votingagainst rational logic because of their preconcived biases.

Qopel isn't exactly known for making rational arguments though

any argument that is against religion is better than an argument for religion, it makes no sense. there are arguments against religion not rational, but the arguments he makes have reason and science, logic, etc. instead of faith etc
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3/15/2013 1:19:37 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I too have been vote bombed by dacktoria and it hasn't even been fully countered yet.
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3/15/2013 1:21:37 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/15/2013 1:17:33 PM, atheismo wrote:

any argument that is against religion is better than an argument for religion...

Yes, the ole bandwagon thing. As long as they come to the right conclusion, who cares how they got there, right? Any argument is good as long as the conclusion is against religion.

1. If God exists, then I'll be a monkey's uncle.
2. I'm not a monkey's uncle.
3. Therefore, God does not exist.

Wonderful argument! Maybe I wouldn't make it myself, but I'll support whoever does, by golly!
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3/15/2013 1:23:30 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/15/2013 1:17:33 PM, atheismo wrote:
At 3/15/2013 1:11:02 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/15/2013 1:02:04 PM, atheismo wrote:
You cant expect to get a fair hearing on a site with a religious majority there will always be stupid people votingagainst rational logic because of their preconcived biases.

Qopel isn't exactly known for making rational arguments though

any argument that is against religion is better than an argument for religion, it makes no sense.

lolololololololol what a rational thing to say. So let me get this straight, if I argue that God does not exist because I happen to be listening to Taylor Swift right now, thats more rational in your eyes than, say, the KCA or another theistic argument?
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3/15/2013 1:27:03 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/15/2013 1:23:30 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 3/15/2013 1:17:33 PM, atheismo wrote:
At 3/15/2013 1:11:02 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/15/2013 1:02:04 PM, atheismo wrote:
You cant expect to get a fair hearing on a site with a religious majority there will always be stupid people votingagainst rational logic because of their preconcived biases.

Qopel isn't exactly known for making rational arguments though

any argument that is against religion is better than an argument for religion, it makes no sense.

lolololololololol what a rational thing to say. So let me get this straight, if I argue that God does not exist because I happen to be listening to Taylor Swift right now, thats more rational in your eyes than, say, the KCA or another theistic argument?

Acually I take that back. I misread the second part of your post. You should probably word that claim differently though.

Why do you feel qopel won the debate?
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3/15/2013 1:33:05 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/15/2013 1:27:03 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 3/15/2013 1:23:30 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 3/15/2013 1:17:33 PM, atheismo wrote:
At 3/15/2013 1:11:02 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/15/2013 1:02:04 PM, atheismo wrote:
You cant expect to get a fair hearing on a site with a religious majority there will always be stupid people votingagainst rational logic because of their preconcived biases.

Qopel isn't exactly known for making rational arguments though

any argument that is against religion is better than an argument for religion, it makes no sense.

lolololololololol what a rational thing to say. So let me get this straight, if I argue that God does not exist because I happen to be listening to Taylor Swift right now, thats more rational in your eyes than, say, the KCA or another theistic argument?


Acually I take that back. I misread the second part of your post. You should probably word that claim differently though.

Why do you feel qopel won the debate?

I'll tell you why I won the debate. My opponent accepted the definition of Atheism is "The Lack of the Belief in a God".
Then he went and used the definition of Atheism as "The belief in the lack of a God" to make his entire argument.
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3/15/2013 2:56:46 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/15/2013 12:35:09 PM, qopel wrote:
Once again, people have to act like children and vote bomb my debate.
http://www.debate.org...

thett3:
"time to join the party, counter proglib lololololol no, but seriously Daktoria is making his own arguments about the resolution, not anayzing the debate. Qopel got wrecked in this debate"
"go ahead and report me"

When I said I would report him,
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People are actually CVBing CVBs!

Yes, people can do that, Thete was correcting some else's misCVB on Ima
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3/15/2013 7:19:06 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Since when was vote bombing ever under control? Countering a vote bomb with a vote bomb? Two wrongs make a right? It's none of another voters business if another person vote bombs. Your just part of the problem if you try to counter it. (opinion)
It's not your views that divide us, it's what you think my views should be that divides us.

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3/15/2013 7:31:47 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/15/2013 7:19:06 PM, sadolite wrote:
Since when was vote bombing ever under control? Countering a vote bomb with a vote bomb? Two wrongs make a right? It's none of another voters business if another person vote bombs. Your just part of the problem if you try to counter it. (opinion)

A wrong opinion, I suppose. But still an opinion.
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3/15/2013 8:22:52 PM
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At 3/15/2013 7:31:47 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 3/15/2013 7:19:06 PM, sadolite wrote:
Since when was vote bombing ever under control? Countering a vote bomb with a vote bomb? Two wrongs make a right? It's none of another voters business if another person vote bombs. Your just part of the problem if you try to counter it. (opinion)

A wrong opinion, I suppose. But still an opinion.

So doing the very same thing that you admonish is the right thing to do? That's like saying someone killed a child so you are going to kill their child.
It's not your views that divide us, it's what you think my views should be that divides us.

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3/15/2013 8:29:32 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I'm coming to realize more and more that vote-bombing is a serious problem on DDO, but I don't think this is a strong example of the issue.
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3/15/2013 9:30:22 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/15/2013 1:21:37 PM, philochristos wrote:
At 3/15/2013 1:17:33 PM, atheismo wrote:

any argument that is against religion is better than an argument for religion...

Yes, the ole bandwagon thing. As long as they come to the right conclusion, who cares how they got there, right? Any argument is good as long as the conclusion is against religion.

1. If God exists, then I'll be a monkey's uncle.
2. I'm not a monkey's uncle.
3. Therefore, God does not exist.

Wonderful argument! Maybe I wouldn't make it myself, but I'll support whoever does, by golly!

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3/15/2013 9:33:25 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/15/2013 1:10:11 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 3/15/2013 1:02:04 PM, atheismo wrote:
You cant expect to get a fair hearing on a site with a religious majority there will always be stupid people votingagainst rational logic because of their preconcived biases.


There isnt a religious majority on this site.

Christian, plus Christian Catholic, plus Christian protestant, plus Christian Baptist, plus Muslim equals 7,030 of the people on this site.

Atheist, plus agnostic, plus secular equals 6,149.

The difference is also probably a lot larger than that since, while some of the non-religious weren't counted, many other religions as well as Christian denominations weren't counted.

I think there's always been a religious majority.
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3/15/2013 9:40:54 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/15/2013 8:22:52 PM, sadolite wrote:
At 3/15/2013 7:31:47 PM, Zaradi wrote:
At 3/15/2013 7:19:06 PM, sadolite wrote:
Since when was vote bombing ever under control? Countering a vote bomb with a vote bomb? Two wrongs make a right? It's none of another voters business if another person vote bombs. Your just part of the problem if you try to counter it. (opinion)

A wrong opinion, I suppose. But still an opinion.

So doing the very same thing that you admonish is the right thing to do? That's like saying someone killed a child so you are going to kill their child.

Wow, talk about taking things to extremes. No, those aren't even close to the same thing.

Let's see if you can add. Let's say we have a debate that just got into the voting period, making it a 0-0 tie. Imabench, in all of his benchy-goodness, tromps on in and slams a seven-point votebomb down in favor of the pro. The score is now 7-0 pro. Now according to you countering the votebomb by giving seven points to the con isn't a right thing to do, but only makes things worse. Lets assume for example, that con probably won the debate. If I go in and vote normally for con, say, giving him four points, the score would be 7-4. Even though the first legitimate vote is in favor of con, he's still losing the debate due to that vote-bomb. However, if I counter the vote-bomb and give him seven points, the score reverts back to being a tie, at 7-7.

By countering the vote-bomb, I undo the damage done by the previous vote-bomb. This allows the debate to be fair again, as both sides start out tied once again.

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3/15/2013 9:46:06 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/15/2013 9:33:25 PM, phantom wrote:
At 3/15/2013 1:10:11 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 3/15/2013 1:02:04 PM, atheismo wrote:
You cant expect to get a fair hearing on a site with a religious majority there will always be stupid people votingagainst rational logic because of their preconcived biases.


There isnt a religious majority on this site.

Christian, plus Christian Catholic, plus Christian protestant, plus Christian Baptist, plus Muslim equals 7,030 of the people on this site.

Atheist, plus agnostic, plus secular equals 6,149.

The difference is also probably a lot larger than that since, while some of the non-religious weren't counted, many other religions as well as Christian denominations weren't counted.

I think there's always been a religious majority.

I was talking about active members
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3/15/2013 9:49:04 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/15/2013 9:46:06 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 3/15/2013 9:33:25 PM, phantom wrote:
At 3/15/2013 1:10:11 PM, thett3 wrote:
At 3/15/2013 1:02:04 PM, atheismo wrote:
You cant expect to get a fair hearing on a site with a religious majority there will always be stupid people votingagainst rational logic because of their preconcived biases.


There isnt a religious majority on this site.

Christian, plus Christian Catholic, plus Christian protestant, plus Christian Baptist, plus Muslim equals 7,030 of the people on this site.

Atheist, plus agnostic, plus secular equals 6,149.

The difference is also probably a lot larger than that since, while some of the non-religious weren't counted, many other religions as well as Christian denominations weren't counted.

I think there's always been a religious majority.

I was talking about active members

Okay. I don't know about active members. I'd say it's probably close though.
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3/15/2013 9:52:35 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I've seen a few of Daktoria's ballots and the impression I got was that he just voted straight 7 to whoever he agreed with.

I seriously doubt thett is guilty of vote bombing...
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3/15/2013 10:10:28 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/15/2013 9:52:35 PM, Raisor wrote:
I've seen a few of Daktoria's ballots and the impression I got was that he just voted straight 7 to whoever he agreed with.

I seriously doubt thett is guilty of vote bombing...

I was the one who countered Daktoria.... Then proglib countered me because he thought Daktoria's vote was legit even though it clearly isnt. Thett then countered proglib while qopel began being a massive baby about the whole thing.
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3/15/2013 10:56:39 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/15/2013 12:47:28 PM, imabench wrote:
Alright heres what happened:

Daktoria gave a 7 point vote on this debate in qopel's favor in this debate
http://www.debate.org...

Daktoria though has a history of voting based on his own opinion rather then arguments presented, so I countered his 7 point votebomb.

Following my counter, qopel lost his mind and proceeded on votebombing several of my debates in retaliation like a baby, and then in a PM he sent me he threatened to report me to the authorities in a childish attempt to blackmail me. After pointing out how full of sh*t he was and how much of a hypocrite he is being, he left the PM and apparently made a forum about the whole thing.

If you have had similar attacks from Qopel where he attacked you because you didnt vote in his favor on any of his debates, feel free to post about it in this thread.

The same thing happened to me. I voted against him (and gave a legitimate RFD, as I always do), and he proceeded to votebomb one of my debates.
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3/16/2013 1:23:06 AM
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At 3/15/2013 1:21:37 PM, philochristos wrote:
3. Therefore, God does not exist.

You've now simultaneously convinced me with your divine arguments that (a) Jesus lived (b) God is dead. How is that for a confliced belief system?!
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3/16/2013 1:29:33 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/15/2013 12:47:28 PM, imabench wrote:
Alright heres what happened:

Daktoria gave a 7 point vote on this debate in qopel's favor in this debate
http://www.debate.org...

Daktoria though has a history of voting based on his own opinion rather then arguments presented, so I countered his 7 point votebomb.

Following my counter, qopel lost his mind and proceeded on votebombing several of my debates in retaliation like a baby, and then in a PM he sent me he threatened to report me to the authorities in a childish attempt to blackmail me. After pointing out how full of sh*t he was and how much of a hypocrite he is being, he left the PM and apparently made a forum about the whole thing.

If you have had similar attacks from Qopel where he attacked you because you didnt vote in his favor on any of his debates, feel free to post about it in this thread.

Let's be mindful of everyone's history, shall we?
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3/16/2013 10:11:13 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/16/2013 1:29:33 AM, malcolmxy wrote:
At 3/15/2013 12:47:28 PM, imabench wrote:
Alright heres what happened:

Daktoria gave a 7 point vote on this debate in qopel's favor in this debate
http://www.debate.org...

Daktoria though has a history of voting based on his own opinion rather then arguments presented, so I countered his 7 point votebomb.

Following my counter, qopel lost his mind and proceeded on votebombing several of my debates in retaliation like a baby, and then in a PM he sent me he threatened to report me to the authorities in a childish attempt to blackmail me. After pointing out how full of sh*t he was and how much of a hypocrite he is being, he left the PM and apparently made a forum about the whole thing.

If you have had similar attacks from Qopel where he attacked you because you didnt vote in his favor on any of his debates, feel free to post about it in this thread.

Let's be mindful of everyone's history, shall we?

Well I would try to include yours but sadly there is an 8000 character limit on posts.... We can just all agree though that your the most childish person here since you seem to be gunning for that award at this point
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3/16/2013 10:21:04 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/16/2013 10:11:13 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/16/2013 1:29:33 AM, malcolmxy wrote:
At 3/15/2013 12:47:28 PM, imabench wrote:
Alright heres what happened:

Daktoria gave a 7 point vote on this debate in qopel's favor in this debate
http://www.debate.org...

Daktoria though has a history of voting based on his own opinion rather then arguments presented, so I countered his 7 point votebomb.

Following my counter, qopel lost his mind and proceeded on votebombing several of my debates in retaliation like a baby, and then in a PM he sent me he threatened to report me to the authorities in a childish attempt to blackmail me. After pointing out how full of sh*t he was and how much of a hypocrite he is being, he left the PM and apparently made a forum about the whole thing.

If you have had similar attacks from Qopel where he attacked you because you didnt vote in his favor on any of his debates, feel free to post about it in this thread.

Let's be mindful of everyone's history, shall we?

Well I would try to include yours but sadly there is an 8000 character limit on posts.... We can just all agree though that your the most childish person here since you seem to be gunning for that award at this point

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