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Cody_Franklin
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3/26/2013 2:24:19 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
So, this came up in a PM with Mouthwash, but I'd like to run it by the rest of you because I think it would be cool. I'm thinking we could have here a running collection of the personal libraries of whoever participates, both physical and digital. While digital copies can be easily uploaded and transferred, physical copies are harder to track. My thinking is that we exchange physical literature through the mail, then exchange it back when each is finished/whenever convenient, like checking out books. The constraint is that this requires sharing of addresses, which, ordinarily, would open the project to trolling; however, if we only share this information in PMs with people we trust, I think the risk is mitigated significantly--sufficiently, at least, to encourage participation.

The format, if we're to have one, could be simple--just a member's name followed by whatever materials they're willing to trade out. Example:

Cody_Franklin

Myth and Meaning: Cracking the Code of Culture - Claude Levi-Strauss
Illuminations - Walter Benjamin
The Sacrament of Language: An Archaeology of the Oath - Giorgio Agamben
Nudge - Thaler and Sunstein
The Private Language Problem: A Philosophical Dialogue - John Saunders and Donald Henze
The Empathy Gap - J.D. Trout
The Stoic Philosophy of Seneca: Essays and Letters - Moses Hadas

etc.

I think this could potentially be a really cool project, not only because it expands the set of possible reading material, but because it also permits us to share our research interests more intimately. Plus, the idea of collective, free-use libraries is independently bomb. If this is something we took seriously, I think we could really take it and run with it. This is perhaps too ambitious, but we might, given sufficient growth and interest, be able to make a platform for it--Debates, Opinions, Forums, Library (to ease the burden on user-librarians, given that it would take a bit of effort to document trades).
Noumena
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3/26/2013 2:29:26 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
One should be legitimately suspicious of lending out books to complete strangers but given that we could be selective about who to loan out to and the fact that we'll have access to all the person's information in the case that something isn't returned (or is returned damaged) makes me think it could be manageable.
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: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
Oryus
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3/26/2013 5:46:05 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I think it's a neat idea though there are websites for that too ya know.

I might join. I'll have to make a list of the books I'm willing to part with later....
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Noumena
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3/26/2013 6:06:24 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Do you already know if anyone who would do it? I have a library just sitting around my room and I'd love to get a change to steal... I mean participate.
: At 5/13/2014 7:05:20 PM, Crescendo wrote:
: The difference is that the gay movement is currently pushing their will on Churches, as shown in the link to gay marriage in Denmark. Meanwhile, the Inquisition ended several centuries ago.
Skepsikyma
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3/26/2013 6:20:47 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I'm fanatical about my physical book collection, but I'd upload digital copies.
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Oryus
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3/26/2013 6:53:37 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/26/2013 6:32:11 PM, johnnyboy54 wrote:
I have a shockingly large collection of porn I am willing to share.

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: : The Fool: It's my English writing. Either way It's okay have a larger vocabulary then you, and a better grasp of language, and you're a woman.
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: I'm just going to leave this precious struggle nugget right here.
Cody_Franklin
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3/27/2013 12:10:10 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/26/2013 6:06:24 PM, Noumena wrote:
Do you already know if anyone who would do it? I have a library just sitting around my room and I'd love to get a change to steal... I mean participate.

I dunno--I put this thread up to probe potential interest. I'm not entirely clear on how to organize, though. People could just write something in bold, or leave a list of books which could be organized into a master list (whether here, on a Google Doc, on an independent page on DDO, etc.).
Man-is-good
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3/27/2013 12:30:03 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
This would have been great for me, had it not been for my tendency to keep, not exchange willingly, the books that I find (or select from an assorted pile). Oh well...:(

I'm still interested, though, to participate in this project.
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YYW
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3/27/2013 1:27:05 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/26/2013 2:24:19 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:

The format, if we're to have one, could be simple--just a member's name followed by whatever materials they're willing to trade out. Example:

Cody_Franklin

Myth and Meaning: Cracking the Code of Culture - Claude Levi-Strauss
Illuminations - Walter Benjamin
The Sacrament of Language: An Archaeology of the Oath - Giorgio Agamben

Ever read Homo Sacer? Just curious...

Nudge - Thaler and Sunstein
The Private Language Problem: A Philosophical Dialogue - John Saunders and Donald Henze
The Empathy Gap - J.D. Trout
The Stoic Philosophy of Seneca: Essays and Letters - Moses Hadas

etc.

I think this could potentially be a really cool project, not only because it expands the set of possible reading material, but because it also permits us to share our research interests more intimately. Plus, the idea of collective, free-use libraries is independently bomb. If this is something we took seriously, I think we could really take it and run with it. This is perhaps too ambitious, but we might, given sufficient growth and interest, be able to make a platform for it--Debates, Opinions, Forums, Library (to ease the burden on user-librarians, given that it would take a bit of effort to document trades).

I think it's a good idea, generally. I have a lot of PDF copies of classic literature, a fair number of textbooks, and publications that are out of copyright. I'm not sure I'd be interested in mailing stuff... but I'd be happy to make recommendations. I'd also suggest that in many cases, it would be cheaper to just buy a used copy of something on Amazon than to pay to have it shipped somewhere.

The only books I can think of not being able to find (I mean, I guess we all live within relative distance of a university) or easily access are rare ones that i'd be uncomfortable with parting anyway. (For example, hell would freeze over before I put by Dietrich Bonhoeffer first editions in the post. It's not that I don't think that DDO members wouldn't return them, but that if my apartment were to burn down, I would grab those books even before I went after my computer, money, or other valuables.) And those... probably can't be found in libraries (at least in the United States). But yeah... open source info of any kind is awesome. I still await the day that every student in the world has free access to JSTOR because it's subsidized by the gov... but I'll be waiting forever, probably.

If you're interested in stuff (articles, books, generally academic publications, etc.) I'm happy to contribute in any way that doesn't involve mailing stuff. I'm happy to recommend things too.

Best of luck!
YYW
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3/27/2013 1:27:55 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/26/2013 6:20:47 PM, Skepsikyma wrote:
I'm fanatical about my physical book collection, but I'd upload digital copies.

Cheers, lol Same here....
Cody_Franklin
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3/27/2013 9:35:13 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/27/2013 1:27:05 AM, YYW wrote:
At 3/26/2013 2:24:19 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:

The format, if we're to have one, could be simple--just a member's name followed by whatever materials they're willing to trade out. Example:

Cody_Franklin

Myth and Meaning: Cracking the Code of Culture - Claude Levi-Strauss
Illuminations - Walter Benjamin
The Sacrament of Language: An Archaeology of the Oath - Giorgio Agamben

Ever read Homo Sacer? Just curious...

I love Agamben. I've literally read almost everything he's published--Homo Sacer, Stanzas, Infancy and History, Language and Death, the Open, Remnants of Auschwitz, etc. I've also read extensive amounts of secondary literature. If I had to pick an author to say I was "up" on, it would be Agamben.
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3/27/2013 1:41:36 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/27/2013 9:35:13 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 3/27/2013 1:27:05 AM, YYW wrote:
At 3/26/2013 2:24:19 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:

The format, if we're to have one, could be simple--just a member's name followed by whatever materials they're willing to trade out. Example:

Cody_Franklin

Myth and Meaning: Cracking the Code of Culture - Claude Levi-Strauss
Illuminations - Walter Benjamin
The Sacrament of Language: An Archaeology of the Oath - Giorgio Agamben

Ever read Homo Sacer? Just curious...

I love Agamben. I've literally read almost everything he's published--Homo Sacer, Stanzas, Infancy and History, Language and Death, the Open, Remnants of Auschwitz, etc. I've also read extensive amounts of secondary literature. If I had to pick an author to say I was "up" on, it would be Agamben.

That's how I am with Foucault, Nietzsche, and a few others. I like Agamben, but his isn't my primary area of interest (though there is some overlap with him and Foucault on sovereign power).
Cody_Franklin
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3/27/2013 1:46:18 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/27/2013 1:41:36 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/27/2013 9:35:13 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 3/27/2013 1:27:05 AM, YYW wrote:
At 3/26/2013 2:24:19 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:

The format, if we're to have one, could be simple--just a member's name followed by whatever materials they're willing to trade out. Example:

Cody_Franklin

Myth and Meaning: Cracking the Code of Culture - Claude Levi-Strauss
Illuminations - Walter Benjamin
The Sacrament of Language: An Archaeology of the Oath - Giorgio Agamben

Ever read Homo Sacer? Just curious...

I love Agamben. I've literally read almost everything he's published--Homo Sacer, Stanzas, Infancy and History, Language and Death, the Open, Remnants of Auschwitz, etc. I've also read extensive amounts of secondary literature. If I had to pick an author to say I was "up" on, it would be Agamben.

That's how I am with Foucault, Nietzsche, and a few others. I like Agamben, but his isn't my primary area of interest (though there is some overlap with him and Foucault on sovereign power).

What is your primary area of interest, and what do you take his to be?
Cody_Franklin
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3/27/2013 1:46:39 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 3/27/2013 1:46:18 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 3/27/2013 1:41:36 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/27/2013 9:35:13 AM, Cody_Franklin wrote:
At 3/27/2013 1:27:05 AM, YYW wrote:
At 3/26/2013 2:24:19 PM, Cody_Franklin wrote:

The format, if we're to have one, could be simple--just a member's name followed by whatever materials they're willing to trade out. Example:

Cody_Franklin

Myth and Meaning: Cracking the Code of Culture - Claude Levi-Strauss
Illuminations - Walter Benjamin
The Sacrament of Language: An Archaeology of the Oath - Giorgio Agamben

Ever read Homo Sacer? Just curious...

I love Agamben. I've literally read almost everything he's published--Homo Sacer, Stanzas, Infancy and History, Language and Death, the Open, Remnants of Auschwitz, etc. I've also read extensive amounts of secondary literature. If I had to pick an author to say I was "up" on, it would be Agamben.

That's how I am with Foucault, Nietzsche, and a few others. I like Agamben, but his isn't my primary area of interest (though there is some overlap with him and Foucault on sovereign power).

What is your primary area of interest, and what do you take his to be?

Actually, this thread isn't the place for this. Nevermind.
Eitan_Zohar
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3/27/2013 2:42:13 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
How will this project be carried out? Where do we advertise our collections?
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Cody_Franklin
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3/28/2013 12:24:22 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
We can advertise them here--I'm thinking we build up a collection of books from which people can draw. I suspect third-party or administrative mediation may be required to assuage the threat of trolling or exploitation, but that's just a tentative solution. I'm more about the big picture than minute details.
Man-is-good
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11/17/2013 12:31:29 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
To be honest, I would personally like if we could simply recommend books to read without having to involve each other more intimately in the process of transferring and lending our books to those who happen to be interested in them (or at the prospect of reading them, to be perhaps more exact).

Perhaps a digital library project instead??
"Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto." --Terence

"I believe that the mind can be permanently profaned by the habit of attending to trivial things, so that all our thoughts shall be tinged with triviality."--Thoreau
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11/17/2013 12:41:32 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/17/2013 12:31:29 AM, Man-is-good wrote:
To be honest, I would personally like if we could simply recommend books to read without having to involve each other more intimately in the process of transferring and lending our books to those who happen to be interested in them (or at the prospect of reading them, to be perhaps more exact).

Or, if you still prefer to exchange books in such a manner, then, perhaps, a digital library project instead??

Revised.
"Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto." --Terence

"I believe that the mind can be permanently profaned by the habit of attending to trivial things, so that all our thoughts shall be tinged with triviality."--Thoreau
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11/17/2013 12:56:52 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/17/2013 12:41:32 AM, Man-is-good wrote:
At 11/17/2013 12:31:29 AM, Man-is-good wrote:
To be honest, I would personally like if we could simply recommend books to read without having to involve each other more intimately in the process of transferring and lending our books to those who happen to be interested in them (or at the prospect of reading them, to be perhaps more exact).

Or, if you still prefer to exchange books in such a manner, then, perhaps, a digital library project instead??

Revised.

We just send PDFs via email or something?
"It is my ambition to say in ten sentences what others say in a whole book."
Man-is-good
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11/17/2013 1:08:56 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 11/17/2013 12:56:52 AM, Eitan_Zohar wrote:
At 11/17/2013 12:41:32 AM, Man-is-good wrote:
At 11/17/2013 12:31:29 AM, Man-is-good wrote:
To be honest, I would personally like if we could simply recommend books to read without having to involve each other more intimately in the process of transferring and lending our books to those who happen to be interested in them (or at the prospect of reading them, to be perhaps more exact).

Or, if you still prefer to exchange books in such a manner, then, perhaps, a digital library project instead??

Revised.

We just send PDFs via email or something?

I guess.
"Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto." --Terence

"I believe that the mind can be permanently profaned by the habit of attending to trivial things, so that all our thoughts shall be tinged with triviality."--Thoreau