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Pennington
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5/8/2013 12:48:18 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Who are fair, unbiased voters here on this site? I do not want the individual themselves to post but someone post who they think are fair and unbiased. As many as possible.

I will offer one:
1) Ragner
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5/8/2013 7:07:16 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I think with a lot of people, they are fair sometimes and unfair at other times. For example, whenever they vote for me, they're voting fairly. And whenever they vote against me, they are voting unfairly. That's the best litmus test for whether somebody is voting fairly or not--whether they vote for or against me.
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5/8/2013 7:25:51 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Raisor is by far my favorite voter on the site
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5/8/2013 7:47:58 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
There are plenty of very good voters on this site. People who have judged high school debates tend to analyze debates very well. People who are exceptional at this are Raisor, YYW, and bluesteel although they use different voting mechanisms to come to their conclusions. Other good voters are LarztheLoser who gives short but balanced RFDs, I have never seen bias from him. Double_R gives short RFDs as well but he usually compresses what other people take thousands of characters to write so it is obvious he read the debate. BlackVoid of course is a solid voter who takes time to analyze and verify claims made by the debaters in round. I've never had a problem with thett3's voting either. He is always impartial.
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5/8/2013 8:28:18 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I will second everyone mentioned so far.

I will also mention wrichcirw; while I think he sometimes misunderstands arguments and many of his RFDs I strongly disagree with, he puts a lot of effort into his voting and is earnest in his voting.

TUF is also good.

Considering how vocal she is, royal does a decent job of giving fair ballots as well.
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5/8/2013 8:40:39 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/8/2013 12:48:18 PM, Pennington wrote:
Who are fair, unbiased voters here on this site? I do not want the individual themselves to post but someone post who they think are fair and unbiased. As many as possible.

I will offer one:
1) Ragner

and on that note, my debate just entered the voting period and....
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5/9/2013 1:40:14 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/8/2013 8:40:39 PM, Wnope wrote:
At 5/8/2013 12:48:18 PM, Pennington wrote:
Who are fair, unbiased voters here on this site? I do not want the individual themselves to post but someone post who they think are fair and unbiased. As many as possible.

I will offer one:
1) Ragner

and on that note, my debate just entered the voting period and....

I have had issues with him likewise in the past. He has a habit of rationalising a reason for voting and it is never a good one. If you question his reasons for voting, you simply get blocked. Ah well.
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5/9/2013 4:03:34 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/8/2013 7:07:16 PM, philochristos wrote:
I think with a lot of people, they are fair sometimes and unfair at other times. For example, whenever they vote for me, they're voting fairly. And whenever they vote against me, they are voting unfairly. That's the best litmus test for whether somebody is voting fairly or not--whether they vote for or against me.

Lol. Dang, I feel that way.
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5/9/2013 4:32:25 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/8/2013 7:47:58 PM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
LarztheLoser

I agree.
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5/9/2013 4:44:48 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
So far the elite voters of DDO in no particular order.
1) Ragner
2) YyW
3) Raisor
4) BlackVoid
5) LarztheLoser
6) Double_R
7) thett3
8) F-16_Fighting_Falcon
9) wrichcirw
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5/9/2013 7:50:57 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/9/2013 4:44:48 AM, Pennington wrote:
So far the elite voters of DDO in no particular order.

1) YyW
2) Raisor
3) BlackVoid
4) LarztheLoser
5) Double_R
6) thett3
7) F-16_Fighting_Falcon
8) wrichcirw

After reading nearly all of Ragnars votes, I have concluded he is most unprofessional, due to being completely new, and has no idea how to vote objectively based on an analysis of the debate.
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5/9/2013 7:53:26 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/9/2013 7:50:57 AM, Smithereens wrote:
At 5/9/2013 4:44:48 AM, Pennington wrote:
So far the elite voters of DDO in no particular order.

1) YyW
2) Raisor
3) BlackVoid
4) LarztheLoser
5) Double_R
6) thett3
7) F-16_Fighting_Falcon
8) wrichcirw

After reading nearly all of Ragnars votes, I have concluded he is most unprofessional, due to being completely new, and has no idea how to vote objectively based on an analysis of the debate.

I cannot argue here. I will allow DDO to decide.
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5/9/2013 7:54:26 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/9/2013 7:53:26 AM, Pennington wrote:
At 5/9/2013 7:50:57 AM, Smithereens wrote:
At 5/9/2013 4:44:48 AM, Pennington wrote:
So far the elite voters of DDO in no particular order.

1) YyW
2) Raisor
3) BlackVoid
4) LarztheLoser
5) Double_R
6) thett3
7) F-16_Fighting_Falcon
8) wrichcirw

After reading nearly all of Ragnars votes, I have concluded he is most unprofessional, due to being completely new, and has no idea how to vote objectively based on an analysis of the debate.

I cannot argue here. I will allow DDO to decide.

We are DDO.
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Pennington
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5/9/2013 7:59:17 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/9/2013 7:54:26 AM, Smithereens wrote:
At 5/9/2013 7:53:26 AM, Pennington wrote:
At 5/9/2013 7:50:57 AM, Smithereens wrote:
At 5/9/2013 4:44:48 AM, Pennington wrote:
So far the elite voters of DDO in no particular order.

1) YyW
2) Raisor
3) BlackVoid
4) LarztheLoser
5) Double_R
6) thett3
7) F-16_Fighting_Falcon
8) wrichcirw

After reading nearly all of Ragnars votes, I have concluded he is most unprofessional, due to being completely new, and has no idea how to vote objectively based on an analysis of the debate.

I cannot argue here. I will allow DDO to decide.

We are DDO.

Indeed. But, there are more DDOites than just us. I see need for more opinions.
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5/9/2013 8:07:25 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/9/2013 7:59:17 AM, Pennington wrote:
At 5/9/2013 7:54:26 AM, Smithereens wrote:
At 5/9/2013 7:53:26 AM, Pennington wrote:
At 5/9/2013 7:50:57 AM, Smithereens wrote:
At 5/9/2013 4:44:48 AM, Pennington wrote:
So far the elite voters of DDO in no particular order.

1) YyW
2) Raisor
3) BlackVoid
4) LarztheLoser
5) Double_R
6) thett3
7) F-16_Fighting_Falcon
8) wrichcirw

After reading nearly all of Ragnars votes, I have concluded he is most unprofessional, due to being completely new, and has no idea how to vote objectively based on an analysis of the debate.

I cannot argue here. I will allow DDO to decide.

We are DDO.

Indeed. But, there are more DDOites than just us. I see need for more opinions.

Then explain the emboldened text.
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5/9/2013 8:10:14 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
When it comes to voting, if anyone feels tempted to vote for who they agree with as a basis for an RFD, then try this:
Vote for the side you agree with, only if you can see an evident win. When they haven't won, simply don't vote. Doing this is not detrimental to the voting system on this site and allows greater accuracy on debates.
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5/9/2013 8:14:39 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/9/2013 8:07:25 AM, Smithereens wrote:
At 5/9/2013 7:59:17 AM, Pennington wrote:
At 5/9/2013 7:54:26 AM, Smithereens wrote:
At 5/9/2013 7:53:26 AM, Pennington wrote:
At 5/9/2013 7:50:57 AM, Smithereens wrote:
At 5/9/2013 4:44:48 AM, Pennington wrote:
So far the elite voters of DDO in no particular order.

1) YyW
2) Raisor
3) BlackVoid
4) LarztheLoser
5) Double_R
6) thett3
7) F-16_Fighting_Falcon
8) wrichcirw

After reading nearly all of Ragnars votes, I have concluded he is most unprofessional, due to being completely new, and has no idea how to vote objectively based on an analysis of the debate.

I cannot argue here. I will allow DDO to decide.

We are DDO.

Indeed. But, there are more DDOites than just us. I see need for more opinions.

Then explain the emboldened text.

It simply means I have not the experience to make claim on voting procedure.
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Pennington
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5/9/2013 8:31:29 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/9/2013 8:10:14 AM, Smithereens wrote:
When it comes to voting, if anyone feels tempted to vote for who they agree with as a basis for an RFD, then try this:
Vote for the side you agree with, only if you can see an evident win. When they haven't won, simply don't vote.

I disagree. I think we should vote against our own position if it is not properly debated. When I ask for voting I do not do it for biased votes. I do it to get votes period, good or bad. We can never improve as debaters without opinions of our skill. We improve by practice and critism. This goes for voters also.

Doing this is not detrimental to the voting system on this site and allows greater accuracy on debates.

It many allow for more accuracy but I disagree it is not detrimental. By this standard we are left with few votes and little to offer the debaters for their effort. Voting is for a winner but more so, it should be a way for debaters to learn wht to improve on and what they lack. Without allowing bad voting for a time you cease the experience and the ability to learn. If someone has been here a couple of months how can you judge their improvement? Do you not need time to improve? Do we expect people to be experts on their arrival?
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5/9/2013 9:09:24 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/8/2013 12:48:18 PM, Pennington wrote:
Who are fair, unbiased voters here on this site? I do not want the individual themselves to post but someone post who they think are fair and unbiased. As many as possible.

I will offer one:
1) Ragner

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5/9/2013 9:47:14 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
So far the elite voters of DDO in no particular order.
1) RoyLatham
2) YyW
3) Raisor
4) BlackVoid
5) LarztheLoser
6) Double_R
7) thett3
8) F-16_Fighting_Falcon
9) wrichcirw
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10) Ragner waiting further review.
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5/9/2013 10:43:59 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/8/2013 12:48:18 PM, Pennington wrote:
Who are fair, unbiased voters here on this site? I do not want the individual themselves to post but someone post who they think are fair and unbiased. As many as possible.

I will offer one:
1) Ragner

Boring. =)
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5/9/2013 11:12:39 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/9/2013 10:43:59 AM, inferno wrote:
At 5/8/2013 12:48:18 PM, Pennington wrote:
Who are fair, unbiased voters here on this site? I do not want the individual themselves to post but someone post who they think are fair and unbiased. As many as possible.

I will offer one:
1) Ragner

Boring. =)

Even more boring.
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5/9/2013 4:32:17 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/9/2013 8:14:39 AM, Pennington wrote:
At 5/9/2013 8:07:25 AM, Smithereens wrote:
At 5/9/2013 7:59:17 AM, Pennington wrote:
At 5/9/2013 7:54:26 AM, Smithereens wrote:
At 5/9/2013 7:53:26 AM, Pennington wrote:
At 5/9/2013 7:50:57 AM, Smithereens wrote:
At 5/9/2013 4:44:48 AM, Pennington wrote:
So far the elite voters of DDO in no particular order.

1) YyW
2) Raisor
3) BlackVoid
4) LarztheLoser
5) Double_R
6) thett3
7) F-16_Fighting_Falcon
8) wrichcirw

After reading nearly all of Ragnars votes, I have concluded he is most unprofessional, due to being completely new, and has no idea how to vote objectively based on an analysis of the debate.

I cannot argue here. I will allow DDO to decide.

We are DDO.

Indeed. But, there are more DDOites than just us. I see need for more opinions.

Then explain the emboldened text.

It simply means I have not the experience to make claim on voting procedure.

You have already claimed Ragnar, but what is your reasoning behind that?
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5/9/2013 4:33:35 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/9/2013 9:47:14 AM, Pennington wrote:
So far the elite voters of DDO in no particular order.
1) RoyLatham
2) YyW
3) Raisor
4) BlackVoid
5) LarztheLoser
6) Double_R
7) thett3
8) F-16_Fighting_Falcon
9) wrichcirw

I might add that there are huge amounts of voters out there who do an excellent job that we may never find. To be fair to them, I shall raise my glass to the unknown people who vote correctly.
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5/9/2013 5:28:59 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I might add that there are huge amounts of voters out there who do an excellent job that we may never find. To be fair to them, I shall raise my glass to the unknown people who vote correctly.
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5/9/2013 8:08:22 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/9/2013 4:33:35 PM, Smithereens wrote:
At 5/9/2013 9:47:14 AM, Pennington wrote:
So far the elite voters of DDO in no particular order.
1) RoyLatham
2) YyW
3) Raisor
4) BlackVoid
5) LarztheLoser
6) Double_R
7) thett3
8) F-16_Fighting_Falcon
9) wrichcirw

I might add that there are huge amounts of voters out there who do an excellent job that we may never find. To be fair to them, I shall raise my glass to the unknown people who vote correctly.

This is true.
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