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Ragnar
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5/9/2013 11:16:44 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
I think I'm doing well with the presentation of my sources (1), yet a thought occurred to me. Should the numbers reset each round or not? Thus far I've started the count at 1 each round, but perhaps for clarity it should continuously go up to make reference to them easier? Such as round 1 has sources 1-3, round 2 has sources 4-7, and so on.

Sources:
(1) http://www.merriam-webster.com... (just an example)
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5/9/2013 11:39:37 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/9/2013 11:16:44 AM, Ragnar wrote:
I think I'm doing well with the presentation of my sources (1), yet a thought occurred to me. Should the numbers reset each round or not? Thus far I've started the count at 1 each round, but perhaps for clarity it should continuously go up to make reference to them easier? Such as round 1 has sources 1-3, round 2 has sources 4-7, and so on.

It doesnt matter as long as people know which sources are used for which arguments.

Sources:
(1) http://www.merriam-webster.com... (just an example)
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5/9/2013 11:58:00 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/9/2013 11:16:44 AM, Ragnar wrote:
I think I'm doing well with the presentation of my sources (1), yet a thought occurred to me. Should the numbers reset each round or not? Thus far I've started the count at 1 each round, but perhaps for clarity it should continuously go up to make reference to them easier? Such as round 1 has sources 1-3, round 2 has sources 4-7, and so on.

Sources:
(1) http://www.merriam-webster.com... (just an example)

I preferr more professional sources like reuters, christian-sceincemonitor, government site, etc...
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5/9/2013 12:20:59 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/9/2013 11:16:44 AM, Ragnar wrote:
I think I'm doing well with the presentation of my sources (1), yet a thought occurred to me. Should the numbers reset each round or not? Thus far I've started the count at 1 each round, but perhaps for clarity it should continuously go up to make reference to them easier? Such as round 1 has sources 1-3, round 2 has sources 4-7, and so on.

Sources:
(1) http://www.merriam-webster.com... (just an example)

Both options are fine. As imabench said the most important thing is to make clear which one goes where. You can also post the link right where you use the information in your round and not deal with numbering them or posting them at the bottom. This saves space so you do not have to number them in your argument or post them at the bottom with:

Sources: such n such. It saves space and this is a tool if you have a large argument and need space. I find it more helpful sometimes as I can hit the link while Im reading.
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RoyLatham
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5/9/2013 10:09:16 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I use inline numbered citations that do not restart at each round. The format is

The sky is blue. [1. www.skycolor.org]

Readers like inline citations so they can click through immediately. If you restart numbering, then a past reference has to be something like R2.1 which is harder to parse. There remain Pro and Con sequences, so it is P1 ... PN and C1 ... CN versus something like P.R2.N.
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5/10/2013 9:43:05 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/9/2013 10:09:16 PM, RoyLatham wrote:
I use inline numbered citations that do not restart at each round. The format is

The sky is blue. [1. www.skycolor.org]

Readers like inline citations so they can click through immediately. If you restart numbering, then a past reference has to be something like R2.1 which is harder to parse. There remain Pro and Con sequences, so it is P1 ... PN and C1 ... CN versus something like P.R2.N.

Personally I hate seeing inline citations. They are bright blue and underlined and get in the way of reading. Normally evidence that requires sources is given in the middle of a paragraph of information that I want to read before looking that the source. I read the entire debate before I verify sources, but I wouldn't think its common practice for readers to skip straight from the debate to another website, read that, then return to the debate and both remember what was happening and where the debate was headed. Its just distracting and annoying.

Most people put all their sources in a reference section at the end of their debate, if the reader is interested in looking for more information and/or the competitor wishes to verify information.
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5/10/2013 10:01:49 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/10/2013 9:43:05 AM, Smithereens wrote:

Personally I hate seeing inline citations. They are bright blue and underlined and get in the way of reading. ...

All I know is the comments I have gotten before yours were all favorable. Apparently few people are upset by blue type. The convenience comes in getting from the claim made in the debate to the reference that's supporting it.

There is one method that's even worse. That's referencing an external list of references. That makes finding the reference a real treasure hunt. the external list also violates the character limits. Debaters using external lists also seem to rarely keep the numbering correct.
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5/10/2013 10:06:59 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
That's actually makes sense. I learned that. It does help the voters to know what source goes to what without going through the whole debate.
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5/10/2013 10:24:51 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Posting them in the comment section, where they can easily be buried, and by standard voting rules should not be considered anyway... Yeah, not an area I'm going into.

Another thing I've seen that I respect but it not for me, is professional citations that you would turn in on a college paper: detailed, and without links.

The external list, that sounds like grounds for a bad conduct vote, in addition to no source credit. Reminds me of when I saw an argument where someone was damn well taking pictures of sections of their debate, to bypass the character limit.
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5/10/2013 10:38:50 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/9/2013 11:16:44 AM, Ragnar wrote:
I think I'm doing well with the presentation of my sources (1), yet a thought occurred to me. Should the numbers reset each round or not? Thus far I've started the count at 1 each round, but perhaps for clarity it should continuously go up to make reference to them easier? Such as round 1 has sources 1-3, round 2 has sources 4-7, and so on.

Sources:
(1) http://www.merriam-webster.com... (just an example)

Continuous numbering that doesn't reset is more consistent I think.