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Looking for a LD tutor for my son (8th Grade)

BlackVoid
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5/14/2013 1:43:04 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/14/2013 1:28:28 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
At 5/14/2013 1:02:55 AM, SKE wrote:
Hi! We live in Arcadia CA & looking for in-person LD tutor, Thank you!

Expert: http://www.debate.org...

Oh god, lol. I'm no expert.

I doubt you'll find anyone who can do it on this site, in-person. There's some people who can give give him advice, but it would help him a lot more to send him to a debate camp. There should be plenty of them in California. He'll get more perspectives and a hell of a lot more hands-on experience that way. I'd have him ask his debate teacher/coach (assuming he's taking in in high school) about some local ones. Note that these are not cheap, but if your son is serious about becoming good, this is the #1 method.
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5/14/2013 1:53:24 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
I really wish I lived in a place where formal high school debate was common and prevalent. I find it to be very interesting and some of the resolutions and formats interest and captivate me even as an adult.

I wonder if there are adult debating clubs. (My university doesn't have one so that is out of the question).
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5/14/2013 1:55:29 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/14/2013 1:53:24 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
I really wish I lived in a place where formal high school debate was common and prevalent. I find it to be very interesting and some of the resolutions and formats interest and captivate me even as an adult.

I wonder if there are adult debating clubs. (My university doesn't have one so that is out of the question).

There was a debate team at the university where I did undergrad, but generally in college Model UN and Mock Trial are both more fun and better organized. I agree though, that it would be nice to have an "adult" debate club. I guess DDO is as close as it comes outside of the local pub.
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5/14/2013 10:00:31 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Good luck finding a tutor!

At 5/14/2013 1:55:29 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/14/2013 1:53:24 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
I really wish I lived in a place where formal high school debate was common and prevalent. I find it to be very interesting and some of the resolutions and formats interest and captivate me even as an adult.

I wonder if there are adult debating clubs. (My university doesn't have one so that is out of the question).

There was a debate team at the university where I did undergrad, but generally in college Model UN and Mock Trial are both more fun and better organized. I agree though, that it would be nice to have an "adult" debate club. I guess DDO is as close as it comes outside of the local pub.

Where I live Model UN and Mock Trial are both reasonably stupid and shallow, and generally frowned upon by debaters. University debate clubs are almost consistently the largest student-run clubs in the universities, as well as the oldest. So far as I know they all accept membership from non-students as well. Probably helps that I live in New Zealand.

Toastmasters sometimes do debate, but the people there in my experience aren't very good at it.

Is there any reason you can't start a debate club? I'm sure there'd be a lot of interest. I'd even bet loads of others in your area would like to help you run it. Just put a notice out in the supermarket or something. There might be more interest than you'd think.
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5/14/2013 10:31:57 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Pretty much what everyone else has said. You're probably not going to find someone on here who can do it in person due to geographical conflicts. If the money is available, sending them to a camp is by far the better option. Their coaches at school act as in-person tutors, but having a base knowledge of debate is something I wish I had going into my first year of debate.

If I had to reccomend one, and this one is if money is REALLY available, I'd recommend sending him to Victory Briefs Institute. It's an LD-focused debate camp that cranks out quite a few nationally recognized debaters every year. It's kinda pricey, but if you're really wanting him to accell and have the money to throw at this, then this would be it.

Also, if your kid doesn't have a laptop, I would highly reccomend getting him one if only for the purpose of debate work and research. I've debated one year with a laptop and two without one and by far I wish I had a laptop for the years I debated without one. Having a laptop allows for superior time allocated to researching, especially mid-tournament researching when you realized you may have under-covered a particular subject and need more information. It allows you to store your information on your laptop instead of having to use copius amounts of paper to print everything out (cases are generally anywhere from two to five or six pages, multiple cases for each side and topic, as well as pre-researched refutations and stuff they need to print out, the paper stacks up quickly and can be very expensive). The laptop doesn't have to be some 2000$ laptop, just something simple and reliable.

And if your son doesn't go to camp and their coaches aren't cooperative, consider finding a tutor to help him through Skype. I personally can recommend a few debaters that I've had the pleasure of working with and learning from personally who enjoy teaching others LD debate. While time zone differences may be an issue, the quality of instruction is the same.

That's all I can think of off the top of my head. If you have any other questions, like F-16 has said BlackVoid is probably a far superior debater than I am haha but I'd be happy to answer any other questions you may have.
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5/14/2013 11:41:42 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/14/2013 10:00:31 AM, larztheloser wrote:
Good luck finding a tutor!

At 5/14/2013 1:55:29 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/14/2013 1:53:24 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
I really wish I lived in a place where formal high school debate was common and prevalent. I find it to be very interesting and some of the resolutions and formats interest and captivate me even as an adult.

I wonder if there are adult debating clubs. (My university doesn't have one so that is out of the question).

There was a debate team at the university where I did undergrad, but generally in college Model UN and Mock Trial are both more fun and better organized. I agree though, that it would be nice to have an "adult" debate club. I guess DDO is as close as it comes outside of the local pub.

Where I live Model UN and Mock Trial are both reasonably stupid and shallow, and generally frowned upon by debaters. University debate clubs are almost consistently the largest student-run clubs in the universities, as well as the oldest. So far as I know they all accept membership from non-students as well. Probably helps that I live in New Zealand.

Toastmasters sometimes do debate, but the people there in my experience aren't very good at it.

Is there any reason you can't start a debate club? I'm sure there'd be a lot of interest. I'd even bet loads of others in your area would like to help you run it. Just put a notice out in the supermarket or something. There might be more interest than you'd think.

Yeah Model UN is stupid. It doesn't teach you debate, it teaches you how to function in a bloated and useless bureaucracy.
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5/14/2013 1:39:27 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Zaradi's point about VBI is legit. If you send him there, he'll (in all likelihood) become an elite debater overnight. However, you're looking at spending money in 4-digit amounts.
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5/14/2013 1:57:20 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/14/2013 1:39:27 PM, BlackVoid wrote:
Zaradi's point about VBI is legit. If you send him there, he'll (in all likelihood) become an elite debater overnight. However, you're looking at spending money in 4-digit amounts.

Exactly why I said it was really pricy and that it's not a necessity. There's probably other camps (I'm pretty sure Berkely has one in the summers, I know UNT down here in Texas has one but with travel idk how much cheaper it would be if at all, among others).
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5/14/2013 2:22:42 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/14/2013 1:02:55 AM, SKE wrote:
Hi! We live in Arcadia CA & looking for in-person LD tutor, Thank you!

Heres a list of guys on this site in your area that I know to be smart, (I don't know how they'll be as an LD tutor for which great patience is needed):

Paradox_7 - http://www.debate.org...
Vulpes_Inculta - http://www.debate.org...
BennyW - http://www.debate.org...
Wnope - http://www.debate.org...
FREEDO - http://www.debate.org...
Dan4reason - http://www.debate.org...
Agent_Orange - http://www.debate.org...
Magic8000 - http://www.debate.org...
wrichcirw - http://www.debate.org...

Here's a full list:
http://www.debate.org...

You might want to try these sites:
http://www.myldtutor.com...
http://www.ncld.org...
http://www.learning-disabilities-reading-tutor.com...
http://www.lynchburg.edu...
http://school.familyeducation.com...

If you have any questions, just ask.
(BTW, I was considered LD, due to the dedication of my parents, I went on to take advanced AP courses including getting a 5 in AP calculous & am now majoring in mathematics with a minor in Finance and economics)

Good luck!
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5/14/2013 2:27:20 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/14/2013 2:22:42 PM, 1Devilsadvocate wrote:
At 5/14/2013 1:02:55 AM, SKE wrote:
Hi! We live in Arcadia CA & looking for in-person LD tutor, Thank you!

Heres a list of guys on this site in your area that I know to be smart, (I don't know how they'll be as an LD tutor for which great patience is needed):

Paradox_7 - http://www.debate.org...
Vulpes_Inculta - http://www.debate.org...
BennyW - http://www.debate.org...
Wnope - http://www.debate.org...
FREEDO - http://www.debate.org...
Dan4reason - http://www.debate.org...
Agent_Orange - http://www.debate.org...
Magic8000 - http://www.debate.org...
wrichcirw - http://www.debate.org...

Here's a full list:
http://www.debate.org...

You might want to try these sites:
http://www.myldtutor.com...
http://www.ncld.org...
http://www.learning-disabilities-reading-tutor.com...
http://www.lynchburg.edu...
http://school.familyeducation.com...

If you have any questions, just ask.
(BTW, I was considered LD, due to the dedication of my parents, I went on to take advanced AP courses including getting a 5 in AP calculous & am now majoring in mathematics with a minor in Finance and economics)

Good luck!

LOL.
I just realized LD stands for Law Degree not Learning Disabled.
Kindly disregard most of my previous post.

Weekly stupid material.
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5/14/2013 2:31:20 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Wait a minute 8th graders don't go for Law degrees.
What does LD stand for?
Lincon-Douglas?
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5/14/2013 3:30:16 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/14/2013 2:31:20 PM, 1Devilsadvocate wrote:
Wait a minute 8th graders don't go for Law degrees.
What does LD stand for?
Lincon-Douglas?

Yes, Lincoln Douglas style debate.
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5/14/2013 3:40:24 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/14/2013 3:30:16 PM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 5/14/2013 2:31:20 PM, 1Devilsadvocate wrote:
Wait a minute 8th graders don't go for Law degrees.
What does LD stand for?
Lincon-Douglas?

Yes, Lincoln Douglas style debate.

Thanks, I just never heard of the term "LD tutor" in reference to a debating tutor/coach.
It usually means a tutor for people with Learning Disabilities.
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5/14/2013 7:42:57 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/14/2013 11:41:42 AM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
At 5/14/2013 10:00:31 AM, larztheloser wrote:
Good luck finding a tutor!

At 5/14/2013 1:55:29 AM, YYW wrote:
At 5/14/2013 1:53:24 AM, F-16_Fighting_Falcon wrote:
I really wish I lived in a place where formal high school debate was common and prevalent. I find it to be very interesting and some of the resolutions and formats interest and captivate me even as an adult.

I wonder if there are adult debating clubs. (My university doesn't have one so that is out of the question).

There was a debate team at the university where I did undergrad, but generally in college Model UN and Mock Trial are both more fun and better organized. I agree though, that it would be nice to have an "adult" debate club. I guess DDO is as close as it comes outside of the local pub.

Where I live Model UN and Mock Trial are both reasonably stupid and shallow, and generally frowned upon by debaters. University debate clubs are almost consistently the largest student-run clubs in the universities, as well as the oldest. So far as I know they all accept membership from non-students as well. Probably helps that I live in New Zealand.

Toastmasters sometimes do debate, but the people there in my experience aren't very good at it.

Is there any reason you can't start a debate club? I'm sure there'd be a lot of interest. I'd even bet loads of others in your area would like to help you run it. Just put a notice out in the supermarket or something. There might be more interest than you'd think.

Yeah Model UN is stupid. It doesn't teach you debate, it teaches you how to function in a bloated and useless bureaucracy.

Model UN isn't necessarily about debate, but I'm sorry you didn't like it. Everyone I know who has done it has really enjoyed it, and taken a lot from it.
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5/15/2013 12:05:42 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/14/2013 8:20:19 PM, Logical-Master wrote:
Have him drop out of Loser Debate and put him on a mock tial team. Then have him attend law school after college.

Lawyers don't need debating skill. Look at Alan Dershowitz- he can't even put in a coherent response without appealing to common sense or shouting. Even he admitted that being a lawyer requires no brains.
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5/15/2013 12:26:12 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/14/2013 8:20:19 PM, Logical-Master wrote:
Have him drop out of Loser Debate and put him on a mock tial team. Then have him attend law school after college.

Mock Trial is glorified acting. The only arguments you actually come up with are handed to you in the form of your information packet and deviating from it is considered bad and cheating and against the rules. There's no room for creativity, no room for imagination and growth whereas the world of debate is a fluid, constantly changing atmosphere where every year brings a new idea, a new style of argumentation, where the entire national debate scene can be revolutionized by a single person or a single idea. That just doesn't happen in Mock Trial.

Besides, you're actually probably better off on the whole Law track if you do debate rather than Mock Trial if you had to exclusively pick one.
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