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DakotaKrafick
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5/21/2013 8:05:43 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I'd like some countervotebombs to this debate. Yes, I did already post this in the sticky, but (in my experience anyway) sometimes that thread doesn't get immediate enough attention and there is relatively little time left:

"I think we all know Apeiron's ridiculously long argument by now. Three brand-new nobodies voted heavily against me (practically simultaneously), to the point that I'm now losing.

http://www.debate.org...

Two of them joined 6 days ago; one of them joined 3 days ago. They all have only 3 debates (the minimum to vote); one of them has the same opponent for all 3. What, were these accounts made specifically to vote against me in this debate?

Apeiron... I was joking when I said to have your multis VB..."
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5/21/2013 8:44:25 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I'd like to ask that members counter-vote as Dakota is requesting... to a total of 33 points.

TomCruise, HillmanYusef111, LucyLucy, GUSTAV, HelpFindingBooks306...

These accounts all reflect an integrity threat to the voting and a counter to all of them is justified.

All of them did 3 quick debates, and then voted on this one debate (TC voted on one prior).

There is also a pattern within their IPs that reflects a further problem. Without providing further details on this at the moment, I believe their is sufficient evidence to disqualify these votes. With less than 6 hours remaining in the voting period I believe it is the prudent thing to do, even with (for right now) only the evidence I have provided so far.
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RyuuKyuzo
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5/21/2013 8:49:06 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
by my count, 8 points have been countered so far (2 from the guy before me, plus 6 I added)

Some others will have to grab the rest.
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RyuuKyuzo
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5/21/2013 8:50:35 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/21/2013 8:49:06 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
by my count, 8 points have been countered so far (2 from the guy before me, plus 6 I added)

Some others will have to grab the rest.

I think it would be best if everyone who counters updates how many points they countered in this thread so we can keep track of when we hit 33.
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DakotaKrafick
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5/21/2013 8:56:47 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/21/2013 8:52:22 PM, TUF wrote:
Justice is your dakota.

It's a beautiful thing when the DDO community comes together for something like this.
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5/21/2013 8:57:06 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
7 points. Justice has been served.
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Raisor
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5/21/2013 9:12:51 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I just dont get why someone who has effectively devoted his DDO career to the service of god would behave in such a poor manner.

It sort of undercuts his ethos and credibility to be caught up in so much drama.
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5/21/2013 9:18:15 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/21/2013 9:12:51 PM, Raisor wrote:
I just dont get why someone who has effectively devoted his DDO career to the service of god would behave in such a poor manner.

It sort of undercuts his ethos and credibility to be caught up in so much drama.

Well, it might not be him. Call me crazy, but This is way too obvious for him not to realize he'd be the prime suspect. Maybe this is somebody else thinking they'll get away with it because Apeiron will take all the heat.

Or maybe Apeiron just thinks we're all retards. I don't know, but I guess time will tell.
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wrichcirw
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5/21/2013 9:18:48 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/21/2013 8:44:25 PM, airmax1227 wrote:
I'd like to ask that members counter-vote as Dakota is requesting... to a total of 33 points.

TomCruise, HillmanYusef111, LucyLucy, GUSTAV, HelpFindingBooks306...

These accounts all reflect an integrity threat to the voting and a counter to all of them is justified.

All of them did 3 quick debates, and then voted on this one debate (TC voted on one prior).

There is also a pattern within their IPs that reflects a further problem. Without providing further details on this at the moment, I believe their is sufficient evidence to disqualify these votes. With less than 6 hours remaining in the voting period I believe it is the prudent thing to do, even with (for right now) only the evidence I have provided so far.

Well, given that the PODDO (prez of ddo) came out for it, ok.
At 8/9/2013 9:41:24 AM, wrichcirw wrote:
If you are civil with me, I will be civil to you. If you decide to bring unreasonable animosity to bear in a reasonable discussion, then what would you expect other than to get flustered?
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5/21/2013 9:21:14 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/21/2013 9:18:15 PM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
At 5/21/2013 9:12:51 PM, Raisor wrote:
I just dont get why someone who has effectively devoted his DDO career to the service of god would behave in such a poor manner.

It sort of undercuts his ethos and credibility to be caught up in so much drama.

Well, it might not be him. Call me crazy, but This is way too obvious for him not to realize he'd be the prime suspect. Maybe this is somebody else thinking they'll get away with it because Apeiron will take all the heat.

Or maybe Apeiron just thinks we're all retards. I don't know, but I guess time will tell.

Well, given the charge in the debate (that Apeiron lied about how many characters were in his docs when anyone reading the debate could see for themselves), this kind of blatant tomfoolery would seem par for the course.

Yet another example of why to go with "no-voting"...people just get too wrapped up with the votes.
At 8/9/2013 9:41:24 AM, wrichcirw wrote:
If you are civil with me, I will be civil to you. If you decide to bring unreasonable animosity to bear in a reasonable discussion, then what would you expect other than to get flustered?
airmax1227
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5/21/2013 9:23:15 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I think everyone should refrain from jumping to any conclusions until I have had enough time to look at this thoroughly and examine the entirety of the evidence. Currently, the evidence is enough to ask members to counter-vote, but nothing more.
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ClassicRobert
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5/21/2013 9:32:05 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
This honestly made me really happy. I'm glad that the DDO community came together to preserve the integrity of the site.
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wrichcirw
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5/21/2013 10:01:17 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/21/2013 9:32:05 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
This honestly made me really happy. I'm glad that the DDO community came together to preserve the integrity of the site.

lol, you do realize this thread resulted in 5 votes?

Not really the most holiest of holies or the largest of communities, just throwing that out there.
At 8/9/2013 9:41:24 AM, wrichcirw wrote:
If you are civil with me, I will be civil to you. If you decide to bring unreasonable animosity to bear in a reasonable discussion, then what would you expect other than to get flustered?
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5/21/2013 10:18:35 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/21/2013 10:01:17 PM, wrichcirw wrote:
At 5/21/2013 9:32:05 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
This honestly made me really happy. I'm glad that the DDO community came together to preserve the integrity of the site.

lol, you do realize this thread resulted in 5 votes?

Not really the most holiest of holies or the largest of communities, just throwing that out there.

kill joy.
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YYW
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5/21/2013 10:48:56 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/21/2013 9:32:05 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
This honestly made me really happy. I'm glad that the DDO community came together to preserve the integrity of the site.

I agree. It's nice to know that when people do idiotic things, (like lie and cheat) that they will be held accountable for their actions. This thread is a salient reminder of that.

As a community, quite good.
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Apeiron
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5/22/2013 12:28:06 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/21/2013 10:48:56 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/21/2013 9:32:05 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
This honestly made me really happy. I'm glad that the DDO community came together to preserve the integrity of the site.

I agree. It's nice to know that when people do idiotic things, (like lie and cheat) that they will be held accountable for their actions. This thread is a salient reminder of that.

As a community, quite good.

So cute.. YOU WERE MY FUEL
wrichcirw
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5/22/2013 12:39:25 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/21/2013 10:18:35 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
At 5/21/2013 10:01:17 PM, wrichcirw wrote:
At 5/21/2013 9:32:05 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
This honestly made me really happy. I'm glad that the DDO community came together to preserve the integrity of the site.

lol, you do realize this thread resulted in 5 votes?

Not really the most holiest of holies or the largest of communities, just throwing that out there.

kill joy.

Just a realist, lol. :)
At 8/9/2013 9:41:24 AM, wrichcirw wrote:
If you are civil with me, I will be civil to you. If you decide to bring unreasonable animosity to bear in a reasonable discussion, then what would you expect other than to get flustered?
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5/22/2013 7:25:23 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/22/2013 12:28:06 AM, Apeiron wrote:
At 5/21/2013 10:48:56 PM, YYW wrote:
At 5/21/2013 9:32:05 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
This honestly made me really happy. I'm glad that the DDO community came together to preserve the integrity of the site.

I agree. It's nice to know that when people do idiotic things, (like lie and cheat) that they will be held accountable for their actions. This thread is a salient reminder of that.

As a community, quite good.

So cute.. YOU WERE MY FUEL

I will point out that as his last words, this is a rather damning accusation.
At 8/9/2013 9:41:24 AM, wrichcirw wrote:
If you are civil with me, I will be civil to you. If you decide to bring unreasonable animosity to bear in a reasonable discussion, then what would you expect other than to get flustered?