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5/23/2013 3:20:03 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Alright everyone, I confess, AlwaysMoreThanYou was my multi-account. Back when I first joined, in September of 2011, I created both of these accounts. One, "Nur-Ab-Sal," was meant to be my main account where I actually attempted to debate and have discourse. The other, "AlwaysMoreThanYou," was more or less a test account, where I'd switch him between Catholic, Judaism, and Orthodox (which was my favorite mode, he used this one for a few weeks). However, I began to use the Always account more than Nur, and eventually I made them more like co-Crusaders in the Religion forum, to give my own arguments more strength with two seemingly different personalities defending them. It actually worked for quite a while.

I was hoping I'd have two very different accounts that no one would suspect were the same, but eventually I began making jokes that they were the same, and no one really believed me. Anyway, a few months ago, I accidentally logged in on the Nur account without using Tor. Juggle eventually matched the IP addresses between our accounts and shut the Always account down. I figured I'd let you guys know before anything else comes out.
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5/23/2013 3:24:52 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Wait, so you quoted yourself in your signature?
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5/23/2013 3:27:14 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/23/2013 3:24:52 PM, drhead wrote:
Wait, so you quoted yourself in your signature?

Yeah. It's not like that's extremely bizarre.
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5/23/2013 3:32:12 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
AMTY couldnt be Nur's multiaccount, because AMTY was MY MULTIACCOUNT
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5/23/2013 3:36:15 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/23/2013 3:32:12 PM, imabench wrote:
AMTY couldnt be Nur's multiaccount, because AMTY was MY MULTIACCOUNT

I knew these sort of flippant multi-accounting claims were going to happen.
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5/23/2013 3:42:35 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/23/2013 3:40:17 PM, SarcasticIndeed wrote:
Not another one...

If this is about Apeiron, then I'm pretty sure I predate him by far.
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5/23/2013 3:42:51 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/23/2013 3:32:12 PM, imabench wrote:
AMTY couldnt be Nur's multiaccount, because AMTY was MY MULTIACCOUNT
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5/23/2013 3:44:49 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/23/2013 3:42:35 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
At 5/23/2013 3:40:17 PM, SarcasticIndeed wrote:
Not another one...

If this is about Apeiron, then I'm pretty sure I predate him by far.

No, I meant, another thread like this. Too much drama, rofl.
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5/23/2013 3:45:49 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/23/2013 3:44:49 PM, SarcasticIndeed wrote:
At 5/23/2013 3:42:35 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
At 5/23/2013 3:40:17 PM, SarcasticIndeed wrote:
Not another one...

If this is about Apeiron, then I'm pretty sure I predate him by far.

No, I meant, another thread like this. Too much drama, rofl.

Oh, yeah. Well I guess Juggle was running IP checks or something, because they (presumably) found us both around the same time. Mine was a few days ago.
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5/23/2013 3:47:30 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/23/2013 3:27:14 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
At 5/23/2013 3:24:52 PM, drhead wrote:
Wait, so you quoted yourself in your signature?

Yeah. It's not like that's extremely bizarre.

LOL
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5/23/2013 3:50:01 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/23/2013 3:47:30 PM, Maikuru wrote:
At 5/23/2013 3:27:14 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
At 5/23/2013 3:24:52 PM, drhead wrote:
Wait, so you quoted yourself in your signature?

Yeah. It's not like that's extremely bizarre.

LOL

I thought debating myself was stranger than that, but I guess it's different to be on the other end.
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5/23/2013 6:54:59 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/23/2013 3:20:03 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
Alright everyone, I confess, AlwaysMoreThanYou was my multi-account. Back when I first joined, in September of 2011, I created both of these accounts. One, "Nur-Ab-Sal," was meant to be my main account where I actually attempted to debate and have discourse. The other, "AlwaysMoreThanYou," was more or less a test account, where I'd switch him between Catholic, Judaism, and Orthodox (which was my favorite mode, he used this one for a few weeks). However, I began to use the Always account more than Nur, and eventually I made them more like co-Crusaders in the Religion forum, to give my own arguments more strength with two seemingly different personalities defending them. It actually worked for quite a while.

I was hoping I'd have two very different accounts that no one would suspect were the same, but eventually I began making jokes that they were the same, and no one really believed me. Anyway, a few months ago, I accidentally logged in on the Nur account without using Tor. Juggle eventually matched the IP addresses between our accounts and shut the Always account down. I figured I'd let you guys know before anything else comes out.

Hmmm.... More and more multiaccounts. Multiaccounting busts increasing....

Here are all the multiaccounts I have seen since I have joined:
Latentdebater (Rational Madman)
Doubter (Qopel) (not really a multi account, but still used as one to vote bomb in favour of qopel)
9 accounts, as well as an account that left, which was later hijacked.(Apreion)
AMTY (Nur-Ab-Sal)

13 Multiaccounts in total. Could mean something.
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5/23/2013 7:02:14 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/23/2013 3:20:03 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
Alright everyone, I confess, AlwaysMoreThanYou was my multi-account. Back when I first joined, in September of 2011, I created both of these accounts. One, "Nur-Ab-Sal," was meant to be my main account where I actually attempted to debate and have discourse. The other, "AlwaysMoreThanYou," was more or less a test account, where I'd switch him between Catholic, Judaism, and Orthodox (which was my favorite mode, he used this one for a few weeks). However, I began to use the Always account more than Nur, and eventually I made them more like co-Crusaders in the Religion forum, to give my own arguments more strength with two seemingly different personalities defending them. It actually worked for quite a while.

I was hoping I'd have two very different accounts that no one would suspect were the same, but eventually I began making jokes that they were the same, and no one really believed me. Anyway, a few months ago, I accidentally logged in on the Nur account without using Tor. Juggle eventually matched the IP addresses between our accounts and shut the Always account down. I figured I'd let you guys know before anything else comes out.

Are you for realsies, or is this just another joke? If this is true, then I appreciate your honesty, but I'm also really disappointed, because you voted for some of my debates using both accounts. That cheapens my wins, and it's unfair to my opponents. You owe them an apology.
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5/23/2013 7:14:07 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/23/2013 7:02:14 PM, philochristos wrote:
At 5/23/2013 3:20:03 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
Alright everyone, I confess, AlwaysMoreThanYou was my multi-account. Back when I first joined, in September of 2011, I created both of these accounts. One, "Nur-Ab-Sal," was meant to be my main account where I actually attempted to debate and have discourse. The other, "AlwaysMoreThanYou," was more or less a test account, where I'd switch him between Catholic, Judaism, and Orthodox (which was my favorite mode, he used this one for a few weeks). However, I began to use the Always account more than Nur, and eventually I made them more like co-Crusaders in the Religion forum, to give my own arguments more strength with two seemingly different personalities defending them. It actually worked for quite a while.

I was hoping I'd have two very different accounts that no one would suspect were the same, but eventually I began making jokes that they were the same, and no one really believed me. Anyway, a few months ago, I accidentally logged in on the Nur account without using Tor. Juggle eventually matched the IP addresses between our accounts and shut the Always account down. I figured I'd let you guys know before anything else comes out.

Are you for realsies, or is this just another joke? If this is true, then I appreciate your honesty, but I'm also really disappointed, because you voted for some of my debates using both accounts. That cheapens my wins, and it's unfair to my opponents. You owe them an apology.

How are people not getting banned for this kind of thing? Honestly...
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5/23/2013 8:16:20 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
I'm not really believing this.
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5/23/2013 8:39:12 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
http://www.debate.org...

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Wouldn't have mattered anyway, but still.
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5/23/2013 9:46:06 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
Guys hes kidding....
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5/23/2013 11:43:48 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/23/2013 8:16:20 PM, phantom wrote:
I'm not really believing this.

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5/24/2013 12:39:08 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Called this 4 months ago. If anyone is surprised, try accepting the fact that there have only been around 12 members of DDO. Ever.
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5/24/2013 1:39:52 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/23/2013 7:02:14 PM, philochristos wrote:
At 5/23/2013 3:20:03 PM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:
Alright everyone, I confess, AlwaysMoreThanYou was my multi-account. Back when I first joined, in September of 2011, I created both of these accounts. One, "Nur-Ab-Sal," was meant to be my main account where I actually attempted to debate and have discourse. The other, "AlwaysMoreThanYou," was more or less a test account, where I'd switch him between Catholic, Judaism, and Orthodox (which was my favorite mode, he used this one for a few weeks). However, I began to use the Always account more than Nur, and eventually I made them more like co-Crusaders in the Religion forum, to give my own arguments more strength with two seemingly different personalities defending them. It actually worked for quite a while.

I was hoping I'd have two very different accounts that no one would suspect were the same, but eventually I began making jokes that they were the same, and no one really believed me. Anyway, a few months ago, I accidentally logged in on the Nur account without using Tor. Juggle eventually matched the IP addresses between our accounts and shut the Always account down. I figured I'd let you guys know before anything else comes out.

Are you for realsies, or is this just another joke? If this is true, then I appreciate your honesty, but I'm also really disappointed, because you voted for some of my debates using both accounts. That cheapens my wins, and it's unfair to my opponents. You owe them an apology.

Philo, I'm really sorry. I hope you can forgive me for deception. I didn't mean to be malicious or anything, but nonchalantly having both characters vote on religious debates (since they were supposed to be both religion-oriented) seemed like the best way to convince everyone they were real people.
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5/24/2013 1:41:14 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/23/2013 8:39:12 PM, Magic8000 wrote:
http://www.debate.org...

Tsk, tsk, tsk. Wouldn't have mattered anyway, but still.

I still apologize.

To be fair, I still think I won that debate though, with or without the vote from the Always character.
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5/24/2013 6:24:23 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/23/2013 3:32:12 PM, imabench wrote:
AMTY couldnt be Nur's multiaccount, because AMTY was MY MULTIACCOUNT

Liar! AMTY is MY multiaccount as is Geo.
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5/24/2013 8:58:34 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Forgive me if I have a difficult time believing this.
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5/24/2013 1:12:53 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/24/2013 1:39:52 AM, Nur-Ab-Sal wrote:

Philo, I'm really sorry. I hope you can forgive me for deception.

I forgive you.
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5/25/2013 12:01:01 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/23/2013 3:32:12 PM, imabench wrote:
AMTY couldnt be Nur's multiaccount, because AMTY was MY MULTIACCOUNT

Bullsh!t. You are my multiaccount.
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