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5/25/2013 2:01:20 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Hello everyone,

Thanks to Airmax, Nur-Ab-Sal, Philocristus, & Buddamoose for giving me a reason to decide that i should come back. I wasn't going to after everything that happened. I had planned to just send a video of myself in apology to the confusion and division that I partially am at fault for. Apeiron is not the only one to blame here. You see I was gullibly naive to believing the manipulative words he said to me and I actually trusted him. Yes, I admit, that was very ignorant, stupid, dumb and foolish of me to do. And I'm sorry that you all had to witness that and then to think that I was just a fake person caused you (those of whom I spoke to most) to feel betrayed and humiliated I'm sorry that you felt that too.

But imagine the things I was thinking and feeling when I was confronted about it. I was blown away. I was hurt and actually should've been the one who felt betrayed, but I know it was partially my fault. That's why I take blame for what happened and truly have learned a good lesson.

Now I know alot of you don't like apeiron and especially now because you may see him as a "person that takes advantage of naive person". I don't blame you for feeling that way about him, buut, if I can forgive him so should you. I'm actually not mad at him at all I was hurt yes but I forgave him and would hope that you all would do the same. Id still be kind to him regardless of what happened because I believe that it's only right and fair that we forgive others if wed want to be forgiven too.

So with my last words to this thread, I do apologize for everything and hope you all not only forgive me but forgive apeiron too. Thank you.

If anyone has any thoughts or questions please feel free to ask. And yes, I'm staying on DDO :)
"We conclude that our salvation is of The Lord. He is the One who regenerates us. Those whom He regenerates come to Christ. Without regeneration no one will ever come to Christ. With regeneration no one will ever reject Him. God's saving grace effects what He intends to effect by it. ~ R. C. Sproul
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5/25/2013 2:10:26 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/25/2013 2:01:20 AM, TULIP wrote:
Hello everyone,

Thanks to Airmax, Nur-Ab-Sal, Philocristus, & Buddamoose for giving me a reason to decide that i should come back. I wasn't going to after everything that happened. I had planned to just send a video of myself in apology to the confusion and division that I partially am at fault for. Apeiron is not the only one to blame here. You see I was gullibly naive to believing the manipulative words he said to me and I actually trusted him. Yes, I admit, that was very ignorant, stupid, dumb and foolish of me to do. And I'm sorry that you all had to witness that and then to think that I was just a fake person caused you (those of whom I spoke to most) to feel betrayed and humiliated I'm sorry that you felt that too.

But imagine the things I was thinking and feeling when I was confronted about it. I was blown away. I was hurt and actually should've been the one who felt betrayed, but I know it was partially my fault. That's why I take blame for what happened and truly have learned a good lesson.

Now I know alot of you don't like apeiron and especially now because you may see him as a "person that takes advantage of naive person". I don't blame you for feeling that way about him, buut, if I can forgive him so should you. I'm actually not mad at him at all I was hurt yes but I forgave him and would hope that you all would do the same. Id still be kind to him regardless of what happened because I believe that it's only right and fair that we forgive others if wed want to be forgiven too.

So with my last words to this thread, I do apologize for everything and hope you all not only forgive me but forgive apeiron too. Thank you.

If anyone has any thoughts or questions please feel free to ask. And yes, I'm staying on DDO :)

S'all good. I'm just glad to know you are, in fact, a real person and not an imaginary persona invented by Apeiron o.O
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5/25/2013 2:12:41 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/25/2013 2:10:26 AM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
At 5/25/2013 2:01:20 AM, TULIP wrote:
Hello everyone,

Thanks to Airmax, Nur-Ab-Sal, Philocristus, & Buddamoose for giving me a reason to decide that i should come back. I wasn't going to after everything that happened. I had planned to just send a video of myself in apology to the confusion and division that I partially am at fault for. Apeiron is not the only one to blame here. You see I was gullibly naive to believing the manipulative words he said to me and I actually trusted him. Yes, I admit, that was very ignorant, stupid, dumb and foolish of me to do. And I'm sorry that you all had to witness that and then to think that I was just a fake person caused you (those of whom I spoke to most) to feel betrayed and humiliated I'm sorry that you felt that too.

But imagine the things I was thinking and feeling when I was confronted about it. I was blown away. I was hurt and actually should've been the one who felt betrayed, but I know it was partially my fault. That's why I take blame for what happened and truly have learned a good lesson.

Now I know alot of you don't like apeiron and especially now because you may see him as a "person that takes advantage of naive person". I don't blame you for feeling that way about him, buut, if I can forgive him so should you. I'm actually not mad at him at all I was hurt yes but I forgave him and would hope that you all would do the same. Id still be kind to him regardless of what happened because I believe that it's only right and fair that we forgive others if wed want to be forgiven too.

So with my last words to this thread, I do apologize for everything and hope you all not only forgive me but forgive apeiron too. Thank you.

If anyone has any thoughts or questions please feel free to ask. And yes, I'm staying on DDO :)

S'all good. I'm just glad to know you are, in fact, a real person and not an imaginary persona invented by Apeiron o.O

Thanks!! :) glad I'm a real person too ha! Didn't like the thought of being fake ya know?
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5/25/2013 2:44:17 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/25/2013 2:12:41 AM, TULIP wrote:
Didn't like the thought of being fake ya know?

Yeah, I 'd hate to find out that I'm not really me.
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5/25/2013 3:01:00 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Glad to have you back.
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5/25/2013 3:30:55 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Welcome back, I and probably most people were blown away as well after hearing what happened. Guess it will eventually fade from memory though ;)
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5/25/2013 8:18:08 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
Welcome back, I'm glad to see that you chose to return.

As to forgiving apeiron; the only people he has transgressed, and therefore have anything to forgive him for, are those actually affected by his mutli-accounting. That is, those he vote-bombed and such. You, of course. And those who work for debate.org. Other then that, I think people just didn't like him. He seemed to me, to be fairly intelligent. But he was very arrogant. So arrogant, that if you disagreed with him he assumed you didn't, or refused to, understand his argument. He even made a thread about it.
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5/25/2013 9:45:02 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
It's great to have you back, and I'm sorry about what happened to you You made an honest mistake, but didn't do anything morally wrong, so you have no reason to feel ashamed.

And I don't really hold grudges, so there's nothing to forgive, but my assessment of his character hasn't and most likely won't change.
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5/25/2013 9:59:09 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
"I wasn't going to after everything that happened. I had planned to just send a video of myself in apology to the confusion and division that I partially am at fault for. "

Welcome back :) Honestly, though, don't feel bad about the drama - I'm pretty sure everybody enjoyed the spectacle of his dramatic departure.
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5/25/2013 10:27:46 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/25/2013 2:10:26 AM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
At 5/25/2013 2:01:20 AM, TULIP wrote:
Hello everyone,

Thanks to Airmax, Nur-Ab-Sal, Philocristus, & Buddamoose for giving me a reason to decide that i should come back. I wasn't going to after everything that happened. I had planned to just send a video of myself in apology to the confusion and division that I partially am at fault for. Apeiron is not the only one to blame here. You see I was gullibly naive to believing the manipulative words he said to me and I actually trusted him. Yes, I admit, that was very ignorant, stupid, dumb and foolish of me to do. And I'm sorry that you all had to witness that and then to think that I was just a fake person caused you (those of whom I spoke to most) to feel betrayed and humiliated I'm sorry that you felt that too.

But imagine the things I was thinking and feeling when I was confronted about it. I was blown away. I was hurt and actually should've been the one who felt betrayed, but I know it was partially my fault. That's why I take blame for what happened and truly have learned a good lesson.

Now I know alot of you don't like apeiron and especially now because you may see him as a "person that takes advantage of naive person". I don't blame you for feeling that way about him, buut, if I can forgive him so should you. I'm actually not mad at him at all I was hurt yes but I forgave him and would hope that you all would do the same. Id still be kind to him regardless of what happened because I believe that it's only right and fair that we forgive others if wed want to be forgiven too.

So with my last words to this thread, I do apologize for everything and hope you all not only forgive me but forgive apeiron too. Thank you.

If anyone has any thoughts or questions please feel free to ask. And yes, I'm staying on DDO :)

S'all good. I'm just glad to know you are, in fact, a real person and not an imaginary persona invented by Apeiron o.O

I know... I was really hurt and dissapointed when I though Sola was apeiron. So glad she's real.
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5/25/2013 10:38:53 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/25/2013 2:44:17 AM, philochristos wrote:
At 5/25/2013 2:12:41 AM, TULIP wrote:
Didn't like the thought of being fake ya know?

Yeah, I 'd hate to find out that I'm not really me.

How would that be possible though lol?? Sounds insane...
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5/25/2013 10:39:40 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/25/2013 3:30:55 AM, Smithereens wrote:
Welcome back, I and probably most people were blown away as well after hearing what happened. Guess it will eventually fade from memory though ;)

I pray so buddy ... It will be remembered in history though...
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5/25/2013 10:40:28 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/25/2013 8:18:08 AM, muzebreak wrote:
Welcome back, I'm glad to see that you chose to return.

As to forgiving apeiron; the only people he has transgressed, and therefore have anything to forgive him for, are those actually affected by his mutli-accounting. That is, those he vote-bombed and such. You, of course. And those who work for debate.org. Other then that, I think people just didn't like him. He seemed to me, to be fairly intelligent. But he was very arrogant. So arrogant, that if you disagreed with him he assumed you didn't, or refused to, understand his argument. He even made a thread about it.

Thank you my friend. And I understand what your saying as well.
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5/25/2013 10:41:57 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/25/2013 9:45:02 AM, Skepsikyma wrote:
It's great to have you back, and I'm sorry about what happened to you You made an honest mistake, but didn't do anything morally wrong, so you have no reason to feel ashamed.

And I don't really hold grudges, so there's nothing to forgive, but my assessment of his character hasn't and most likely won't change.

That's very nice of you. Thank you. Glad to know you don't hold grudges. :)
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5/25/2013 10:42:59 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/25/2013 9:59:09 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
"I wasn't going to after everything that happened. I had planned to just send a video of myself in apology to the confusion and division that I partially am at fault for. "

Welcome back :) Honestly, though, don't feel bad about the drama - I'm pretty sure everybody enjoyed the spectacle of his dramatic departure.

Thank you. Lol I didn't enjoy it though. I was pretty hurt too. :/ but all is forgiven now. :)
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5/25/2013 10:43:40 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/25/2013 10:03:14 AM, ConservativePolitico wrote:
You are just the sweetest thing <3

Lol thank you sweetheart!! :)
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5/25/2013 10:44:33 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/25/2013 10:27:46 AM, justin.graves wrote:
At 5/25/2013 2:10:26 AM, RyuuKyuzo wrote:
At 5/25/2013 2:01:20 AM, TULIP wrote:
Hello everyone,

Thanks to Airmax, Nur-Ab-Sal, Philocristus, & Buddamoose for giving me a reason to decide that i should come back. I wasn't going to after everything that happened. I had planned to just send a video of myself in apology to the confusion and division that I partially am at fault for. Apeiron is not the only one to blame here. You see I was gullibly naive to believing the manipulative words he said to me and I actually trusted him. Yes, I admit, that was very ignorant, stupid, dumb and foolish of me to do. And I'm sorry that you all had to witness that and then to think that I was just a fake person caused you (those of whom I spoke to most) to feel betrayed and humiliated I'm sorry that you felt that too.

But imagine the things I was thinking and feeling when I was confronted about it. I was blown away. I was hurt and actually should've been the one who felt betrayed, but I know it was partially my fault. That's why I take blame for what happened and truly have learned a good lesson.

Now I know alot of you don't like apeiron and especially now because you may see him as a "person that takes advantage of naive person". I don't blame you for feeling that way about him, buut, if I can forgive him so should you. I'm actually not mad at him at all I was hurt yes but I forgave him and would hope that you all would do the same. Id still be kind to him regardless of what happened because I believe that it's only right and fair that we forgive others if wed want to be forgiven too.

So with my last words to this thread, I do apologize for everything and hope you all not only forgive me but forgive apeiron too. Thank you.

If anyone has any thoughts or questions please feel free to ask. And yes, I'm staying on DDO :)

S'all good. I'm just glad to know you are, in fact, a real person and not an imaginary persona invented by Apeiron o.O

I know... I was really hurt and dissapointed when I though Sola was apeiron. So glad she's real.

So glad to be in fact a real person ;)
"We conclude that our salvation is of The Lord. He is the One who regenerates us. Those whom He regenerates come to Christ. Without regeneration no one will ever come to Christ. With regeneration no one will ever reject Him. God's saving grace effects what He intends to effect by it. ~ R. C. Sproul
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5/25/2013 10:45:59 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/25/2013 10:42:59 AM, TULIP wrote:
At 5/25/2013 9:59:09 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
"I wasn't going to after everything that happened. I had planned to just send a video of myself in apology to the confusion and division that I partially am at fault for. "

Welcome back :) Honestly, though, don't feel bad about the drama - I'm pretty sure everybody enjoyed the spectacle of his dramatic departure.

Thank you. Lol I didn't enjoy it though. I was pretty hurt too. :/ but all is forgiven now. :)

Yeah, what I said kind of came across as rude. I didn't mean that you were a figure for our entertainment, I just mean you don't have to feel guilty about what happened.
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5/25/2013 10:49:29 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/25/2013 10:38:53 AM, TULIP wrote:
At 5/25/2013 2:44:17 AM, philochristos wrote:
At 5/25/2013 2:12:41 AM, TULIP wrote:
Didn't like the thought of being fake ya know?

Yeah, I 'd hate to find out that I'm not really me.

How would that be possible though lol?? Sounds insane...

It is insane. That's what I would hate about it.
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5/25/2013 10:52:37 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/25/2013 10:45:59 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
At 5/25/2013 10:42:59 AM, TULIP wrote:
At 5/25/2013 9:59:09 AM, dylancatlow wrote:
"I wasn't going to after everything that happened. I had planned to just send a video of myself in apology to the confusion and division that I partially am at fault for. "

Welcome back :) Honestly, though, don't feel bad about the drama - I'm pretty sure everybody enjoyed the spectacle of his dramatic departure.

Thank you. Lol I didn't enjoy it though. I was pretty hurt too. :/ but all is forgiven now. :)

Yeah, what I said kind of came across as rude. I didn't mean that you were a figure for our entertainment, I just mean you don't have to feel guilty about what happened.

No no no no your fine.., you didn't sound rude at all.. I understand what you were saying... I was just merely explaining how I felt as well.. Sorry for the confusion :/
"We conclude that our salvation is of The Lord. He is the One who regenerates us. Those whom He regenerates come to Christ. Without regeneration no one will ever come to Christ. With regeneration no one will ever reject Him. God's saving grace effects what He intends to effect by it. ~ R. C. Sproul
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5/25/2013 10:53:03 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/25/2013 10:49:29 AM, philochristos wrote:
At 5/25/2013 10:38:53 AM, TULIP wrote:
At 5/25/2013 2:44:17 AM, philochristos wrote:
At 5/25/2013 2:12:41 AM, TULIP wrote:
Didn't like the thought of being fake ya know?

Yeah, I 'd hate to find out that I'm not really me.

How would that be possible though lol?? Sounds insane...

It is insane. That's what I would hate about it.

Ha I understand..
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5/25/2013 11:43:30 AM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/25/2013 2:01:20 AM, TULIP wrote:
Hello everyone,

Thanks to Airmax, Nur-Ab-Sal, Philocristus, & Buddamoose for giving me a reason to decide that i should come back. I wasn't going to after everything that happened. I had planned to just send a video of myself in apology to the confusion and division that I partially am at fault for. Apeiron is not the only one to blame here. You see I was gullibly naive to believing the manipulative words he said to me and I actually trusted him. Yes, I admit, that was very ignorant, stupid, dumb and foolish of me to do. And I'm sorry that you all had to witness that and then to think that I was just a fake person caused you (those of whom I spoke to most) to feel betrayed and humiliated I'm sorry that you felt that too.

But imagine the things I was thinking and feeling when I was confronted about it. I was blown away. I was hurt and actually should've been the one who felt betrayed, but I know it was partially my fault. That's why I take blame for what happened and truly have learned a good lesson.

Now I know alot of you don't like apeiron and especially now because you may see him as a "person that takes advantage of naive person". I don't blame you for feeling that way about him, buut, if I can forgive him so should you. I'm actually not mad at him at all I was hurt yes but I forgave him and would hope that you all would do the same. Id still be kind to him regardless of what happened because I believe that it's only right and fair that we forgive others if wed want to be forgiven too.

So with my last words to this thread, I do apologize for everything and hope you all not only forgive me but forgive apeiron too. Thank you.

If anyone has any thoughts or questions please feel free to ask. And yes, I'm staying on DDO :)

Sooooooo.......

what happened?
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5/25/2013 12:23:34 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/25/2013 11:43:30 AM, ishallannoyyo wrote:
At 5/25/2013 2:01:20 AM, TULIP wrote:
Hello everyone,

Thanks to Airmax, Nur-Ab-Sal, Philocristus, & Buddamoose for giving me a reason to decide that i should come back. I wasn't going to after everything that happened. I had planned to just send a video of myself in apology to the confusion and division that I partially am at fault for. Apeiron is not the only one to blame here. You see I was gullibly naive to believing the manipulative words he said to me and I actually trusted him. Yes, I admit, that was very ignorant, stupid, dumb and foolish of me to do. And I'm sorry that you all had to witness that and then to think that I was just a fake person caused you (those of whom I spoke to most) to feel betrayed and humiliated I'm sorry that you felt that too.

But imagine the things I was thinking and feeling when I was confronted about it. I was blown away. I was hurt and actually should've been the one who felt betrayed, but I know it was partially my fault. That's why I take blame for what happened and truly have learned a good lesson.

Now I know alot of you don't like apeiron and especially now because you may see him as a "person that takes advantage of naive person". I don't blame you for feeling that way about him, buut, if I can forgive him so should you. I'm actually not mad at him at all I was hurt yes but I forgave him and would hope that you all would do the same. Id still be kind to him regardless of what happened because I believe that it's only right and fair that we forgive others if wed want to be forgiven too.

So with my last words to this thread, I do apologize for everything and hope you all not only forgive me but forgive apeiron too. Thank you.

If anyone has any thoughts or questions please feel free to ask. And yes, I'm staying on DDO :)

Sooooooo.......

what happened?

U dint see the "apeiron" thread forum topic?

Anyways, I had given my username and password to aperion and well he used it after I had deactivated my account to vote bomb and send out message and comments to vote on one of his latest debates.. Long story short he and I were both banned permanently until someone contacts me about it through email because everyone thought I was aperions made up (a fake user) tat aperion had created for himself... But because I was contacted and made my argument about it and they saw that I was genuine so airmax made that known as well that I'm an actual person and that Id be given a second chance to rejoin DDO. And do that's why I left this post and made sure on my profile to let everyone know who I am and what not. So yes that's what unfortunately happened. Pretty intense dramatic crazy stuff. And I'm partially to blame.
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5/25/2013 12:25:06 PM
Posted: 3 years ago
At 5/25/2013 12:11:57 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
You're a very kind hearted and trusting person.

Welcome back! :D

Awww thank you sweetie. I appreciate that.
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