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TUF
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1/6/2014 8:01:03 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
http://www.debate.org...

Yesterday, bsh1 and I launched a project we have been working on called "Debate of the month". The sole purpose of this is to give recognition to voters, debaters, and debates that are exceptional in quality, and grant them recognition. We wanted to do this monthly so that there is an ongoing feel of appreciation for the continual hard work being done around the site.

There have been several expressions of distaste that this project might undermine other projects that are already in place for doing the same thing. So to be fair, I think the best option is to put this up to vote. If this idea gets more bad votes than good, we'll toss it and work on other projects to get the same results.

If you are interested in voting, please either vote or toss it by bolding one of the following options:

Keep it
Toss it
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1/6/2014 8:14:39 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
One question first(before I vote), is it possible that the "Debate of the Month" could be stickied to the front page? And other top debates in the last month be stickied under it as well? It would look much better then the garbage debates I have seen in arrive on the front page. That includes one my debates that I see on the front page currently. The "Debate of the Month" could bring new members if it is presented on the front page.
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1/6/2014 8:14:55 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Toss it.
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1/6/2014 8:20:03 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Toss it

When you offer awards and they aren't scarce, they hold no value. Three debates, three voters, and three debaters per month is basically like giving out a medal for participation. Add to it that we have this elaborate voting process for it, and it's stickied, and we have the Hall of Fame already and it's just kind of pointless and distracting.
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TUF
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1/6/2014 8:21:22 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/6/2014 8:14:39 PM, Tophatdoc wrote:
One question first(before I vote), is it possible that the "Debate of the Month" could be stickied to the front page? And other top debates in the last month be stickied under it as well? It would look much better then the garbage debates I have seen in arrive on the front page. That includes one my debates that I see on the front page currently. The "Debate of the Month" could bring new members if it is presented on the front page.

Airmax has agreed to sticky them for us (though I believe it will be in the miscellaneous forum due to the cluttered stickies already in this thread). I think it's just the winners that are being stickied for now however, as has been the case in the past.
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1/6/2014 8:24:03 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I like the concept but it should be a bit more organized.

Toss It
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1/6/2014 8:26:25 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/6/2014 8:01:03 PM, TUF wrote:
If you are interested in voting, please either vote to keep it or toss it by bolding one of the following options:

fixd'
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1/6/2014 8:47:01 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Toss It
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1/6/2014 8:48:16 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/6/2014 8:36:34 PM, MassiveDump wrote:
Shake it.
Shake, shake it.
Shake it.
Shake, shake it.
Shake it.
Shake it.
Shake, shake it.
Shake it like a Polaroid picture.


Twist it.
Turn it.
BOP it!
#UnbanTheMadman

#StandWithBossy

#BetOnThett

"bossy r u like 85 years old and have lost ur mind"
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1/6/2014 8:49:40 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/6/2014 8:48:16 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
At 1/6/2014 8:36:34 PM, MassiveDump wrote:
Shake it.
Shake, shake it.
Shake it.
Shake, shake it.
Shake it.
Shake it.
Shake, shake it.
Shake it like a Polaroid picture.


Twist it.
Turn it.
BOP it!


Beat it.
Beat it.
No one wants to be defeated.
Show them how funky.
Strong is your fight.
It doesn't matter.
Who's wrong or right.
Just beat it.
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1/6/2014 8:53:50 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/6/2014 8:49:40 PM, MassiveDump wrote:
At 1/6/2014 8:48:16 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
At 1/6/2014 8:36:34 PM, MassiveDump wrote:
Shake it.
Shake, shake it.
Shake it.
Shake, shake it.
Shake it.
Shake it.
Shake, shake it.
Shake it like a Polaroid picture.


Twist it.
Turn it.
BOP it!


Beat it.
Beat it.
No one wants to be defeated.
Show them how funky.
Strong is your fight.
It doesn't matter.
Who's wrong or right.
Just beat it.


A,
B,
C!

1,
2,
3!
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1/6/2014 9:03:59 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
After hearing direct feedback from members who have raised valid concerns, and after seeing the low response to it in the forums, I recommend we

Toss it

It was a well-intentioned idea; but not all ideas can work. This one seems to be one of those. I believe that there must be a better way to go about appreciating our members. This was an excellent experiment, and a lot was learned, but a new solution is needed.
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1/6/2014 9:05:10 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/6/2014 8:53:50 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 1/6/2014 8:49:40 PM, MassiveDump wrote:
At 1/6/2014 8:48:16 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
At 1/6/2014 8:36:34 PM, MassiveDump wrote:
Shake it.
Shake, shake it.
Shake it.
Shake, shake it.
Shake it.
Shake it.
Shake, shake it.
Shake it like a Polaroid picture.


Twist it.
Turn it.
BOP it!


Beat it.
Beat it.
No one wants to be defeated.
Show them how funky.
Strong is your fight.
It doesn't matter.
Who's wrong or right.
Just beat it.


A,
B,
C!

1,
2,
3!

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I'm asking him to change his ways,
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take a look at yourself, and make a
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1/6/2014 9:39:18 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Toss it
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TUF
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1/6/2014 9:42:54 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/6/2014 9:03:59 PM, bsh1 wrote:
After hearing direct feedback from members who have raised valid concerns, and after seeing the low response to it in the forums, I recommend we

Toss it

It was a well-intentioned idea; but not all ideas can work. This one seems to be one of those. I believe that there must be a better way to go about appreciating our members. This was an excellent experiment, and a lot was learned, but a new solution is needed.

I guess this makes it official then lol.

We will toss this idea. Sorry to any members who this idea might have offended, it's intentions were for good, and not meant to detriment.
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1/6/2014 10:24:22 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
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1/7/2014 2:05:10 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
I completely missed this one. I wouldn't object to a mass message from the president to vote on a poll for an issue like this. Some members message me twice a week to vote for polls I don't even care about. Just a thought, I'll read the original thread later and weigh in. I definitely appreciate the goal to recognize and encourage quality debates and point members to debates that are worth reading!
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1/7/2014 4:32:56 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/7/2014 2:05:10 AM, 2-D wrote:
I completely missed this one. I wouldn't object to a mass message from the president to vote on a poll for an issue like this. Some members message me twice a week to vote for polls I don't even care about. Just a thought, I'll read the original thread later and weigh in. I definitely appreciate the goal to recognize and encourage quality debates and point members to debates that are worth reading!

I think the main problem isn't grabbing attention and recognition to debaters and voters, but mainly the way this method does it is often used and similar to the hall of fame. Outside of that I would really only disagree with classic robert here on how frequent recognition is given, but the method is definitely the issue.
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1/7/2014 7:36:03 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Keep it.
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1/7/2014 8:56:11 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Unless the voters have some objective formula for determining the best debate, I don't find it interesting to look at the list nor click on the mentioned debates.

A better thing is to display top weekly debates on the front page, from a combination of their amount of voters, comments from various people, views from an individual IP, etc.
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1/7/2014 10:39:51 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 1/6/2014 8:20:03 PM, ClassicRobert wrote:
Toss it

When you offer awards and they aren't scarce, they hold no value. Three debates, three voters, and three debaters per month is basically like giving out a medal for participation. Add to it that we have this elaborate voting process for it, and it's stickied, and we have the Hall of Fame already and it's just kind of pointless and distracting.
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