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Tier 1: Expert's Debate Tournament Thread R2

TUF
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1/24/2014 2:49:59 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
For this semi final round in the tournament, I would like to congratulate the following debaters in an excellent first round victory, and a fantastic overall performance:

Bsh1, Ore_Ele, imabench, and Phantom!

Ore_Ele VS Imabench (debate ongoing)
Bsh1 VS Phantom

The rules for this round will mostly be the same as for the last round.

Debate title: This should have the name of the tier you are debating under, which round of the competition you are in, and the resolution. EX: "Intemediate's Debate Competition R2: Morality does not exist."

Number of rounds: 4

The first round will be acceptance only. This is to ensure that the other party accepts the challenge without forfeiting and nulling the debate. Once the debate is accepted, any further forfeits should be judged according to voter's decision. There should be at least 3 rounds of actual debate per round in the competition. An extra round of debate is optional per the debater"s decision.

Time to Argue: 72 hours

Voting period: This needs to be at least 3 days to 1 week long.

Voting comments: Required.

Good luck everyone, and have fun!
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1/24/2014 2:51:22 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
http://www.debate.org...

Imabench's and Ore_Ele's debate in in the voting period and currently in need of votes.
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1/30/2014 2:39:53 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Voting period:

Imabench VS Ore_Ele: http://www.debate.org...

Current winner is Ore_Ele with 5 days left in the voting period.

Debating period:

Bsh1 VS phantom: http://www.debate.org...

In round 2 out of 5.
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2/4/2014 2:53:27 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Well, our debate is out of the voting period with, in my opinion, some very poor last minute voting. Normally, I don't worry about poor since it happens all the time, but this was just terrible. Voting at the last minute, to ensure that the vote bomb couldn't be cancelled. The RFD clearly showed that they didn't understand the resolution. The voter is part of the tourney, so going on a potential opponent's debate creates a conflict of interest already.
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2/4/2014 6:47:11 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/4/2014 2:53:27 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Well, our debate is out of the voting period with, in my opinion, some very poor last minute voting. Normally, I don't worry about poor since it happens all the time, but this was just terrible. Voting at the last minute, to ensure that the vote bomb couldn't be cancelled. The RFD clearly showed that they didn't understand the resolution. The voter is part of the tourney, so going on a potential opponent's debate creates a conflict of interest already.

I don't see that this is directed at me but just so no one assumes a trend; I cast my vote with 24 hours left and only corrected my RFD last minute.
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2/4/2014 6:50:32 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/4/2014 6:47:11 PM, 2-D wrote:
At 2/4/2014 2:53:27 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Well, our debate is out of the voting period with, in my opinion, some very poor last minute voting. Normally, I don't worry about poor since it happens all the time, but this was just terrible. Voting at the last minute, to ensure that the vote bomb couldn't be cancelled. The RFD clearly showed that they didn't understand the resolution. The voter is part of the tourney, so going on a potential opponent's debate creates a conflict of interest already.

I don't see that this is directed at me but just so no one assumes a trend; I cast my vote with 24 hours left and only corrected my RFD last minute.

Don't worry. It's aimed at me. I PMed Ore about it, and so I'll take appropriate action re: my vote after we talk.
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2/4/2014 7:25:53 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/4/2014 2:53:27 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Well, our debate is out of the voting period with, in my opinion, some very poor last minute voting. Normally, I don't worry about poor since it happens all the time, but this was just terrible. Voting at the last minute, to ensure that the vote bomb couldn't be cancelled. The RFD clearly showed that they didn't understand the resolution. The voter is part of the tourney, so going on a potential opponent's debate creates a conflict of interest already.

It's kind of back-handed compliment. I know I'd rather go up against Ima than Ore_Ele in the finale. Ima's a fine debater and he may have the higher ELO, but Ore_Ele's more incisive.
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2/4/2014 7:27:56 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/4/2014 7:25:53 PM, Oromagi wrote:
At 2/4/2014 2:53:27 PM, Ore_Ele wrote:
Well, our debate is out of the voting period with, in my opinion, some very poor last minute voting. Normally, I don't worry about poor since it happens all the time, but this was just terrible. Voting at the last minute, to ensure that the vote bomb couldn't be cancelled. The RFD clearly showed that they didn't understand the resolution. The voter is part of the tourney, so going on a potential opponent's debate creates a conflict of interest already.

It's kind of back-handed compliment. I know I'd rather go up against Ima than Ore_Ele in the finale. Ima's a fine debater and he may have the higher ELO, but Ore_Ele's more incisive.

Ore wasn't going to advance even if he had won--he was going to bow out due to time constraints. Anyway, due to Ore's request, I have asked airmax to delete the vote.
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2/4/2014 7:35:19 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Ore wasn't going to advance even if he had won--he was going to bow out due to time constraints. Anyway, due to Ore's request, I have asked airmax to delete the vote.

I think that's an appropriate decision under the circumstances even knowing that the outcome won't impact the tourney. Well done.
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2/5/2014 10:06:41 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Completed

Imabench VS Ore_Ele: http://www.debate.org...

Current winner is Imabench . I will give this a little bit to see what the official determination is, as I have just heard that one of the voters votes may be removed.

Debating period:

Bsh1 VS phantom: http://www.debate.org...

In round 3 out of 5.
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2/8/2014 8:25:14 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Completed

Imabench VS Ore_Ele: http://www.debate.org...

Winner is Imabench

Debating period:

Bsh1 VS phantom: http://www.debate.org...

In round 4 out of 5.
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2/11/2014 2:13:50 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Completed

Imabench VS Ore_Ele: http://www.debate.org...

Winner is Imabench

Debating period:

Bsh1 VS phantom: http://www.debate.org...

In round 4 out of 5.
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2/19/2014 12:44:05 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
We're finished. http://www.debate.org...
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2/19/2014 1:16:43 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 2/19/2014 12:44:05 AM, phantom wrote:
We're finished. http://www.debate.org...

Sweet great job guys! Almost there!
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3/3/2014 1:29:05 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
bsh1 is the winner, and will be moving on to face imabench in the finale!
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