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3/2/2014 7:47:26 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Is it just me, or has the volume of threads about sexually obscene material gotten too damn high?

Seriously...

Pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Incest and pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Another thread about pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

And beastiality/zoophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

This is just absurd. Immediate moderator action needs to be taken on every single one of these threads, their OP's need to be warned and if they refuse to comply they need to be permanently banned.
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3/2/2014 7:49:24 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/2/2014 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
Is it just me, or has the volume of threads about sexually obscene material gotten too damn high?

Seriously...

Pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

A troll

Incest and pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Another thread about pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Seems like two honest threads

And beastiality/zoophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Run of the mill idiot
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3/2/2014 7:51:40 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/2/2014 7:49:24 PM, imabench wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
Is it just me, or has the volume of threads about sexually obscene material gotten too damn high?

Seriously...

Pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

A troll

It needs to be off this site.

Incest and pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Another thread about pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Seems like two honest threads

Whether they are "honest" -whatever that means- or not is inconsequential. They need to be off this site.

And beastiality/zoophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Run of the mill idiot

I agree, but that doesn't mean that he shouldn't be banned and his posts shouldn't be removed from this site.
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3/2/2014 7:54:08 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/2/2014 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
Is it just me, or has the volume of threads about sexually obscene material gotten too damn high?

Seriously...

Pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Incest and pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Another thread about pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

And beastiality/zoophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

This is just absurd. Immediate moderator action needs to be taken on every single one of these threads, their OP's need to be warned and if they refuse to comply they need to be permanently banned.

I was just freaking thinking about this. It's not that they are sexually inappropriate though; I think the discussions are legit if taken seriously. I just thought the sheer amount of them was strange.
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3/2/2014 7:55:15 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/2/2014 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
Is it just me, or has the volume of threads about sexually obscene material gotten too damn high?

Seriously...

Pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Incest and pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Another thread about pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

And beastiality/zoophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

This is just absurd. Immediate moderator action needs to be taken on every single one of these threads, their OP's need to be warned and if they refuse to comply they need to be permanently banned.

I totes agree with this.
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3/2/2014 7:58:15 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/2/2014 7:54:08 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
Is it just me, or has the volume of threads about sexually obscene material gotten too damn high?

Seriously...

Pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Incest and pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Another thread about pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

And beastiality/zoophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

This is just absurd. Immediate moderator action needs to be taken on every single one of these threads, their OP's need to be warned and if they refuse to comply they need to be permanently banned.

I was just freaking thinking about this. It's not that they are sexually inappropriate though; I think the discussions are legit if taken seriously. I just thought the sheer amount of them was strange.

Whether something is legal or not has no bearing on whether or not it should be posted on this site, and the kind of person who would make posts like any of these has no place in this community.
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3/2/2014 8:05:54 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/2/2014 7:58:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:54:08 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
Is it just me, or has the volume of threads about sexually obscene material gotten too damn high?

Seriously...

Pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Incest and pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Another thread about pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

And beastiality/zoophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

This is just absurd. Immediate moderator action needs to be taken on every single one of these threads, their OP's need to be warned and if they refuse to comply they need to be permanently banned.

I was just freaking thinking about this. It's not that they are sexually inappropriate though; I think the discussions are legit if taken seriously. I just thought the sheer amount of them was strange.

Whether something is legal or not has no bearing on whether or not it should be posted on this site, and the kind of person who would make posts like any of these has no place in this community.

I honestly see nothing wrong with trying to provide a rational argument for pedophilia, bestiality, and especially incest, and don't understand why anyone would if the OP's playing devil's advocate.
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3/2/2014 8:09:18 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/2/2014 8:05:54 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:58:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:54:08 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
Is it just me, or has the volume of threads about sexually obscene material gotten too damn high?

Seriously...

Pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Incest and pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Another thread about pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

And beastiality/zoophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

This is just absurd. Immediate moderator action needs to be taken on every single one of these threads, their OP's need to be warned and if they refuse to comply they need to be permanently banned.

I was just freaking thinking about this. It's not that they are sexually inappropriate though; I think the discussions are legit if taken seriously. I just thought the sheer amount of them was strange.

Whether something is legal or not has no bearing on whether or not it should be posted on this site, and the kind of person who would make posts like any of these has no place in this community.

I honestly see nothing wrong with trying to provide a rational argument for pedophilia, bestiality, and especially incest, and don't understand why anyone would if the OP's playing devil's advocate.

You see nothing wrong with it? Why is that?
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3/2/2014 8:10:31 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/2/2014 7:58:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:54:08 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
Is it just me, or has the volume of threads about sexually obscene material gotten too damn high?

Seriously...

Pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Incest and pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Another thread about pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

And beastiality/zoophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

This is just absurd. Immediate moderator action needs to be taken on every single one of these threads, their OP's need to be warned and if they refuse to comply they need to be permanently banned.

I was just freaking thinking about this. It's not that they are sexually inappropriate though; I think the discussions are legit if taken seriously. I just thought the sheer amount of them was strange.

Whether something is legal or not has no bearing on whether or not it should be posted on this site, and the kind of person who would make posts like any of these has no place in this community.

This is a surprising amount of unnaccpetance for something from a liberal. I legitimately mean that. Why shouldn't these topics be posted on DDO? Especially if they are meant to be legitimately discussed?
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3/2/2014 8:12:53 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/2/2014 8:09:18 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:05:54 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:58:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:54:08 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
Is it just me, or has the volume of threads about sexually obscene material gotten too damn high?

Seriously...

Pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Incest and pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Another thread about pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

And beastiality/zoophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

This is just absurd. Immediate moderator action needs to be taken on every single one of these threads, their OP's need to be warned and if they refuse to comply they need to be permanently banned.

I was just freaking thinking about this. It's not that they are sexually inappropriate though; I think the discussions are legit if taken seriously. I just thought the sheer amount of them was strange.

Whether something is legal or not has no bearing on whether or not it should be posted on this site, and the kind of person who would make posts like any of these has no place in this community.

I honestly see nothing wrong with trying to provide a rational argument for pedophilia, bestiality, and especially incest, and don't understand why anyone would if the OP's playing devil's advocate.

You see nothing wrong with it? Why is that?

It's a debate site. If you believe you have rational arguments for or against something, you should be able to present them. If someone else feels that the arguments are both unnecessarily vulgar/disgusting and follow absolutely no logic, then report them. But, before that happens, rebut the points, or even have a debate. All topics should be up for debate.
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3/2/2014 8:13:58 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/2/2014 8:10:31 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:58:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:54:08 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
Is it just me, or has the volume of threads about sexually obscene material gotten too damn high?

Seriously...

Pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Incest and pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Another thread about pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

And beastiality/zoophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

This is just absurd. Immediate moderator action needs to be taken on every single one of these threads, their OP's need to be warned and if they refuse to comply they need to be permanently banned.

I was just freaking thinking about this. It's not that they are sexually inappropriate though; I think the discussions are legit if taken seriously. I just thought the sheer amount of them was strange.

Whether something is legal or not has no bearing on whether or not it should be posted on this site, and the kind of person who would make posts like any of these has no place in this community.

This is a surprising amount of unnaccpetance for something from a liberal. I legitimately mean that. Why shouldn't these topics be posted on DDO? Especially if they are meant to be legitimately discussed?

There is no legitimate defense of pedophilia, beastiality or incest -and being Liberal does not mean that I tolerate obscenity.
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3/2/2014 8:15:17 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/2/2014 8:12:53 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:09:18 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:05:54 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:58:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:54:08 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
Is it just me, or has the volume of threads about sexually obscene material gotten too damn high?

Seriously...

Pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Incest and pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Another thread about pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

And beastiality/zoophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

This is just absurd. Immediate moderator action needs to be taken on every single one of these threads, their OP's need to be warned and if they refuse to comply they need to be permanently banned.

I was just freaking thinking about this. It's not that they are sexually inappropriate though; I think the discussions are legit if taken seriously. I just thought the sheer amount of them was strange.

Whether something is legal or not has no bearing on whether or not it should be posted on this site, and the kind of person who would make posts like any of these has no place in this community.

I honestly see nothing wrong with trying to provide a rational argument for pedophilia, bestiality, and especially incest, and don't understand why anyone would if the OP's playing devil's advocate.

You see nothing wrong with it? Why is that?

It's a debate site. If you believe you have rational arguments for or against something, you should be able to present them. If someone else feels that the arguments are both unnecessarily vulgar/disgusting and follow absolutely no logic, then report them. But, before that happens, rebut the points, or even have a debate. All topics should be up for debate.

Because everything is subjective, to you?
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3/2/2014 8:16:25 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/2/2014 8:13:58 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:10:31 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:58:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:54:08 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
Is it just me, or has the volume of threads about sexually obscene material gotten too damn high?

Seriously...

Pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Incest and pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Another thread about pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

And beastiality/zoophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

This is just absurd. Immediate moderator action needs to be taken on every single one of these threads, their OP's need to be warned and if they refuse to comply they need to be permanently banned.

I was just freaking thinking about this. It's not that they are sexually inappropriate though; I think the discussions are legit if taken seriously. I just thought the sheer amount of them was strange.

Whether something is legal or not has no bearing on whether or not it should be posted on this site, and the kind of person who would make posts like any of these has no place in this community.

This is a surprising amount of unnaccpetance for something from a liberal. I legitimately mean that. Why shouldn't these topics be posted on DDO? Especially if they are meant to be legitimately discussed?

There is no legitimate defense of pedophilia, beastiality or incest -and being Liberal does not mean that I tolerate obscenity.

Yes there is. I don't agree with the stance but I do know that there is a legitimate argument for these. They are mostly libertarian in that relationships are a private matter that the government shouldn't interfere in.
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3/2/2014 8:17:16 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/2/2014 8:13:58 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:10:31 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:58:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:54:08 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
Is it just me, or has the volume of threads about sexually obscene material gotten too damn high?

Seriously...

Pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Incest and pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Another thread about pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

And beastiality/zoophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

This is just absurd. Immediate moderator action needs to be taken on every single one of these threads, their OP's need to be warned and if they refuse to comply they need to be permanently banned.

I was just freaking thinking about this. It's not that they are sexually inappropriate though; I think the discussions are legit if taken seriously. I just thought the sheer amount of them was strange.

Whether something is legal or not has no bearing on whether or not it should be posted on this site, and the kind of person who would make posts like any of these has no place in this community.

This is a surprising amount of unnaccpetance for something from a liberal. I legitimately mean that. Why shouldn't these topics be posted on DDO? Especially if they are meant to be legitimately discussed?

There is no legitimate defense of pedophilia, beastiality or incest -and being Liberal does not mean that I tolerate obscenity.

I'm with SeventhProfessor on this one. 40 years ago (had the Internet existed), you'd be saying the exact same thing about homosexuality. We cannot dismiss topics simply out of a sense of personal disgust. There are logical and rational arguments against pedophilia, incest, and beastiality, and these are what need to be used against them, not rhetorical appeals to the fabric of society or senses of personal distaste.
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3/2/2014 8:18:19 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/2/2014 8:16:25 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:13:58 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:10:31 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:58:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:54:08 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
Is it just me, or has the volume of threads about sexually obscene material gotten too damn high?

Seriously...

Pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Incest and pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Another thread about pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

And beastiality/zoophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

This is just absurd. Immediate moderator action needs to be taken on every single one of these threads, their OP's need to be warned and if they refuse to comply they need to be permanently banned.

I was just freaking thinking about this. It's not that they are sexually inappropriate though; I think the discussions are legit if taken seriously. I just thought the sheer amount of them was strange.

Whether something is legal or not has no bearing on whether or not it should be posted on this site, and the kind of person who would make posts like any of these has no place in this community.

This is a surprising amount of unnaccpetance for something from a liberal. I legitimately mean that. Why shouldn't these topics be posted on DDO? Especially if they are meant to be legitimately discussed?

There is no legitimate defense of pedophilia, beastiality or incest -and being Liberal does not mean that I tolerate obscenity.

Yes there is. I don't agree with the stance but I do know that there is a legitimate argument for these. They are mostly libertarian in that relationships are a private matter that the government shouldn't interfere in.

This isn't about whether the government should interfere with anything. This is about whether any of those three things are in any way moral. And they all, collectively, categorically, are not.
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3/2/2014 8:21:18 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/2/2014 8:18:19 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:16:25 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:13:58 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:10:31 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:58:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:54:08 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
Is it just me, or has the volume of threads about sexually obscene material gotten too damn high?

Seriously...

Pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Incest and pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Another thread about pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

And beastiality/zoophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

This is just absurd. Immediate moderator action needs to be taken on every single one of these threads, their OP's need to be warned and if they refuse to comply they need to be permanently banned.

I was just freaking thinking about this. It's not that they are sexually inappropriate though; I think the discussions are legit if taken seriously. I just thought the sheer amount of them was strange.

Whether something is legal or not has no bearing on whether or not it should be posted on this site, and the kind of person who would make posts like any of these has no place in this community.

This is a surprising amount of unnaccpetance for something from a liberal. I legitimately mean that. Why shouldn't these topics be posted on DDO? Especially if they are meant to be legitimately discussed?

There is no legitimate defense of pedophilia, beastiality or incest -and being Liberal does not mean that I tolerate obscenity.

Yes there is. I don't agree with the stance but I do know that there is a legitimate argument for these. They are mostly libertarian in that relationships are a private matter that the government shouldn't interfere in.

This isn't about whether the government should interfere with anything. This is about whether any of those three things are in any way moral. And they all, collectively, categorically, are not.

Oh good, if you believe that then go into the forums and defend that position instead of calling to have the forums removed.
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3/2/2014 8:24:03 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/2/2014 8:17:16 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:13:58 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:10:31 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:58:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:54:08 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
Is it just me, or has the volume of threads about sexually obscene material gotten too damn high?

Seriously...

Pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Incest and pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Another thread about pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

And beastiality/zoophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

This is just absurd. Immediate moderator action needs to be taken on every single one of these threads, their OP's need to be warned and if they refuse to comply they need to be permanently banned.

I was just freaking thinking about this. It's not that they are sexually inappropriate though; I think the discussions are legit if taken seriously. I just thought the sheer amount of them was strange.

Whether something is legal or not has no bearing on whether or not it should be posted on this site, and the kind of person who would make posts like any of these has no place in this community.

This is a surprising amount of unnaccpetance for something from a liberal. I legitimately mean that. Why shouldn't these topics be posted on DDO? Especially if they are meant to be legitimately discussed?

There is no legitimate defense of pedophilia, beastiality or incest -and being Liberal does not mean that I tolerate obscenity.

I'm with SeventhProfessor on this one. 40 years ago (had the Internet existed), you'd be saying the exact same thing about homosexuality.

That is one of the stupidest rebuffs I've ever heard. 40 years ago, as a gay man I would have made every effort to get ignorant people to understand the basic, fundamental attributes that differentiate homosexuality from sexual deviancy (i.e. pedophilia, beastiality and incest). And even if I weren't gay, realize that because society has progressed beyond manifest cultural bigotry to a considerable extent, that does not open the door for moral permissiveness on other fronts.

We cannot dismiss topics simply out of a sense of personal disgust.

There is this opinion that those without any sense of a moral compass hold that feeling disgusted is something that is inherently irrational. The reason is because those who hold that view, themselves, have no moral compass and consequently lack the ability to distinguish right from wrong.
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3/2/2014 8:26:12 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/2/2014 8:15:17 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:12:53 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:09:18 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:05:54 PM, SeventhProfessor wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:58:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:54:08 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
Is it just me, or has the volume of threads about sexually obscene material gotten too damn high?

Seriously...

Pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Incest and pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Another thread about pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

And beastiality/zoophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

This is just absurd. Immediate moderator action needs to be taken on every single one of these threads, their OP's need to be warned and if they refuse to comply they need to be permanently banned.

I was just freaking thinking about this. It's not that they are sexually inappropriate though; I think the discussions are legit if taken seriously. I just thought the sheer amount of them was strange.

Whether something is legal or not has no bearing on whether or not it should be posted on this site, and the kind of person who would make posts like any of these has no place in this community.

I honestly see nothing wrong with trying to provide a rational argument for pedophilia, bestiality, and especially incest, and don't understand why anyone would if the OP's playing devil's advocate.

You see nothing wrong with it? Why is that?

It's a debate site. If you believe you have rational arguments for or against something, you should be able to present them. If someone else feels that the arguments are both unnecessarily vulgar/disgusting and follow absolutely no logic, then report them. But, before that happens, rebut the points, or even have a debate. All topics should be up for debate.

Because everything is subjective, to you?

Relevance?
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3/2/2014 8:27:00 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/2/2014 8:21:18 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:18:19 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:16:25 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:13:58 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:10:31 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:58:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:54:08 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
Is it just me, or has the volume of threads about sexually obscene material gotten too damn high?

Seriously...

Pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Incest and pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Another thread about pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

And beastiality/zoophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

This is just absurd. Immediate moderator action needs to be taken on every single one of these threads, their OP's need to be warned and if they refuse to comply they need to be permanently banned.

I was just freaking thinking about this. It's not that they are sexually inappropriate though; I think the discussions are legit if taken seriously. I just thought the sheer amount of them was strange.

Whether something is legal or not has no bearing on whether or not it should be posted on this site, and the kind of person who would make posts like any of these has no place in this community.

This is a surprising amount of unnaccpetance for something from a liberal. I legitimately mean that. Why shouldn't these topics be posted on DDO? Especially if they are meant to be legitimately discussed?

There is no legitimate defense of pedophilia, beastiality or incest -and being Liberal does not mean that I tolerate obscenity.

Yes there is. I don't agree with the stance but I do know that there is a legitimate argument for these. They are mostly libertarian in that relationships are a private matter that the government shouldn't interfere in.

This isn't about whether the government should interfere with anything. This is about whether any of those three things are in any way moral. And they all, collectively, categorically, are not.

Oh good, if you believe that then go into the forums and defend that position instead of calling to have the forums removed.

That's a very, very disappointing response.
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3/2/2014 8:27:36 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/2/2014 8:24:03 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:17:16 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:13:58 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:10:31 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:58:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:54:08 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
Is it just me, or has the volume of threads about sexually obscene material gotten too damn high?

Seriously...

Pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Incest and pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Another thread about pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

And beastiality/zoophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

This is just absurd. Immediate moderator action needs to be taken on every single one of these threads, their OP's need to be warned and if they refuse to comply they need to be permanently banned.

I was just freaking thinking about this. It's not that they are sexually inappropriate though; I think the discussions are legit if taken seriously. I just thought the sheer amount of them was strange.

Whether something is legal or not has no bearing on whether or not it should be posted on this site, and the kind of person who would make posts like any of these has no place in this community.

This is a surprising amount of unnaccpetance for something from a liberal. I legitimately mean that. Why shouldn't these topics be posted on DDO? Especially if they are meant to be legitimately discussed?

There is no legitimate defense of pedophilia, beastiality or incest -and being Liberal does not mean that I tolerate obscenity.

I'm with SeventhProfessor on this one. 40 years ago (had the Internet existed), you'd be saying the exact same thing about homosexuality.

That is one of the stupidest rebuffs I've ever heard. 40 years ago, as a gay man I would have made every effort to get ignorant people to understand the basic, fundamental attributes that differentiate homosexuality from sexual deviancy (i.e. pedophilia, beastiality and incest). And even if I weren't gay, realize that because society has progressed beyond manifest cultural bigotry to a considerable extent, that does not open the door for moral permissiveness on other fronts.

Like it or not, you can't deny the history shared between non-normative sexual practices. Accepting one does not slippery slope into accepting another, but you are using the same charged emotional appeals applied to one 40 years ago (and even today) and championing them as a means to discredit the others. This is wrong.

We cannot dismiss topics simply out of a sense of personal disgust.

There is this opinion that those without any sense of a moral compass hold that feeling disgusted is something that is inherently irrational. The reason is because those who hold that view, themselves, have no moral compass and consequently lack the ability to distinguish right from wrong.

Okay. I arbitrarily decide that green shirts are disgusting. Now I can ban them from society? I don't think so.
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3/2/2014 8:30:27 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/2/2014 8:27:00 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:21:18 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:18:19 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:16:25 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:13:58 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:10:31 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:58:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:54:08 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
Is it just me, or has the volume of threads about sexually obscene material gotten too damn high?

Seriously...

Pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Incest and pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Another thread about pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

And beastiality/zoophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

This is just absurd. Immediate moderator action needs to be taken on every single one of these threads, their OP's need to be warned and if they refuse to comply they need to be permanently banned.

I was just freaking thinking about this. It's not that they are sexually inappropriate though; I think the discussions are legit if taken seriously. I just thought the sheer amount of them was strange.

Whether something is legal or not has no bearing on whether or not it should be posted on this site, and the kind of person who would make posts like any of these has no place in this community.

This is a surprising amount of unnaccpetance for something from a liberal. I legitimately mean that. Why shouldn't these topics be posted on DDO? Especially if they are meant to be legitimately discussed?

There is no legitimate defense of pedophilia, beastiality or incest -and being Liberal does not mean that I tolerate obscenity.

Yes there is. I don't agree with the stance but I do know that there is a legitimate argument for these. They are mostly libertarian in that relationships are a private matter that the government shouldn't interfere in.

This isn't about whether the government should interfere with anything. This is about whether any of those three things are in any way moral. And they all, collectively, categorically, are not.

Oh good, if you believe that then go into the forums and defend that position instead of calling to have the forums removed.

That's a very, very disappointing response.

What was disappointing about it?
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3/2/2014 8:36:21 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/2/2014 8:27:36 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:24:03 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:17:16 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:13:58 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:10:31 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:58:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:54:08 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
Is it just me, or has the volume of threads about sexually obscene material gotten too damn high?

Seriously...

Pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Incest and pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Another thread about pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

And beastiality/zoophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

This is just absurd. Immediate moderator action needs to be taken on every single one of these threads, their OP's need to be warned and if they refuse to comply they need to be permanently banned.

I was just freaking thinking about this. It's not that they are sexually inappropriate though; I think the discussions are legit if taken seriously. I just thought the sheer amount of them was strange.

Whether something is legal or not has no bearing on whether or not it should be posted on this site, and the kind of person who would make posts like any of these has no place in this community.

This is a surprising amount of unnaccpetance for something from a liberal. I legitimately mean that. Why shouldn't these topics be posted on DDO? Especially if they are meant to be legitimately discussed?

There is no legitimate defense of pedophilia, beastiality or incest -and being Liberal does not mean that I tolerate obscenity.

I'm with SeventhProfessor on this one. 40 years ago (had the Internet existed), you'd be saying the exact same thing about homosexuality.

That is one of the stupidest rebuffs I've ever heard. 40 years ago, as a gay man I would have made every effort to get ignorant people to understand the basic, fundamental attributes that differentiate homosexuality from sexual deviancy (i.e. pedophilia, beastiality and incest). And even if I weren't gay, realize that because society has progressed beyond manifest cultural bigotry to a considerable extent, that does not open the door for moral permissiveness on other fronts.

Like it or not, you can't deny the history shared between non-normative sexual practices.

This isn't about the history, it's about the principle. I know that there was once a time when society relegated homosexuality to the same category of sexual deviancy where deviancy was defined as anything that wasn't conspicuously heterosexual, consistent with conventional gender roles, etc. That homosexuality now occupies a different space doesn't mean that pedophilia, incest or beastiality have any claim to social acceptance.

Accepting one does not slippery slope into accepting another, but you are using the same charged emotional appeals applied to one 40 years ago (and even today) and championing them as a means to discredit the others. This is wrong.

What do you mean by "charged emotional appeals"? I'm thinking that that is one of those stupid, meaningless platitudes you heard people say in response to opposition to gay rights. Realize, though, that whatever you mean by "charged emotional appeals," you're not making an argument against what I'm advocating for. You're critiquing the means, because you don't like them and for no other reason.


We cannot dismiss topics simply out of a sense of personal disgust.

There is this opinion that those without any sense of a moral compass hold that feeling disgusted is something that is inherently irrational. The reason is because those who hold that view, themselves, have no moral compass and consequently lack the ability to distinguish right from wrong.

Okay. I arbitrarily decide that green shirts are disgusting. Now I can ban them from society? I don't think so.

We're not talking about shirts, green or otherwise, nor articles of clothing. It's astonishing that you would have the temerity to make such a stupid analogy, as well. The choice between what shirt to wear has nothing to do with, nor is it in any way like the choice over who/what to have sex with.
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3/2/2014 8:39:59 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/2/2014 8:30:27 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:27:00 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:21:18 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:18:19 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:16:25 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:13:58 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:10:31 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:58:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:54:08 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
Is it just me, or has the volume of threads about sexually obscene material gotten too damn high?

Seriously...

Pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Incest and pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Another thread about pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

And beastiality/zoophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

This is just absurd. Immediate moderator action needs to be taken on every single one of these threads, their OP's need to be warned and if they refuse to comply they need to be permanently banned.

I was just freaking thinking about this. It's not that they are sexually inappropriate though; I think the discussions are legit if taken seriously. I just thought the sheer amount of them was strange.

Whether something is legal or not has no bearing on whether or not it should be posted on this site, and the kind of person who would make posts like any of these has no place in this community.

This is a surprising amount of unnaccpetance for something from a liberal. I legitimately mean that. Why shouldn't these topics be posted on DDO? Especially if they are meant to be legitimately discussed?

There is no legitimate defense of pedophilia, beastiality or incest -and being Liberal does not mean that I tolerate obscenity.

Yes there is. I don't agree with the stance but I do know that there is a legitimate argument for these. They are mostly libertarian in that relationships are a private matter that the government shouldn't interfere in.

This isn't about whether the government should interfere with anything. This is about whether any of those three things are in any way moral. And they all, collectively, categorically, are not.

Oh good, if you believe that then go into the forums and defend that position instead of calling to have the forums removed.

That's a very, very disappointing response.

What was disappointing about it?

You begin by being surprised that a liberal is intolerant of beastiality, homosexuality and incest -which tells me that you don't understand liberals or liberalism. You tell me that there are legitimate arguments for objectively immoral things, and then tell me that this is because the government shouldn't interfere.

The fact that the above happened, is what is disappointing.
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3/2/2014 8:40:56 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Times are changing, you need to start getting used to the idea. Acceptance of perversion starts with talking about it and getting people desensitized to it and then finally accepting it. It used to be perverted to show a man and a woman in the same bed on TV. It used to be perverted to think of the concept of gay marriage. Why would American society over time not accept pedophilia? Arguments can already be made for it. It is practiced in other countries. All the same arguments will be made for the acceptance of this perversion as as were made for previous perversions that are now acceptable.
It's not your views that divide us, it's what you think my views should be that divides us.

If you think I will give up my rights and forsake social etiquette to make you "FEEL" better you are sadly mistaken

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3/2/2014 8:47:00 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/2/2014 8:36:21 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:27:36 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:24:03 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:17:16 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:13:58 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:10:31 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:58:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:54:08 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
Is it just me, or has the volume of threads about sexually obscene material gotten too damn high?

Seriously...

Pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Incest and pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Another thread about pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

And beastiality/zoophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

This is just absurd. Immediate moderator action needs to be taken on every single one of these threads, their OP's need to be warned and if they refuse to comply they need to be permanently banned.

I was just freaking thinking about this. It's not that they are sexually inappropriate though; I think the discussions are legit if taken seriously. I just thought the sheer amount of them was strange.

Whether something is legal or not has no bearing on whether or not it should be posted on this site, and the kind of person who would make posts like any of these has no place in this community.

This is a surprising amount of unnaccpetance for something from a liberal. I legitimately mean that. Why shouldn't these topics be posted on DDO? Especially if they are meant to be legitimately discussed?

There is no legitimate defense of pedophilia, beastiality or incest -and being Liberal does not mean that I tolerate obscenity.

I'm with SeventhProfessor on this one. 40 years ago (had the Internet existed), you'd be saying the exact same thing about homosexuality.

That is one of the stupidest rebuffs I've ever heard. 40 years ago, as a gay man I would have made every effort to get ignorant people to understand the basic, fundamental attributes that differentiate homosexuality from sexual deviancy (i.e. pedophilia, beastiality and incest). And even if I weren't gay, realize that because society has progressed beyond manifest cultural bigotry to a considerable extent, that does not open the door for moral permissiveness on other fronts.

Like it or not, you can't deny the history shared between non-normative sexual practices.

This isn't about the history, it's about the principle. I know that there was once a time when society relegated homosexuality to the same category of sexual deviancy where deviancy was defined as anything that wasn't conspicuously heterosexual, consistent with conventional gender roles, etc. That homosexuality now occupies a different space doesn't mean that pedophilia, incest or beastiality have any claim to social acceptance.

I never claimed they did.

Accepting one does not slippery slope into accepting another, but you are using the same charged emotional appeals applied to one 40 years ago (and even today) and championing them as a means to discredit the others. This is wrong.

What do you mean by "charged emotional appeals"? I'm thinking that that is one of those stupid, meaningless platitudes you heard people say in response to opposition to gay rights. Realize, though, that whatever you mean by "charged emotional appeals," you're not making an argument against what I'm advocating for. You're critiquing the means, because you don't like them and for no other reason.

Sort of. You and I have the same end goal in mind, but I don't emotion and personal opinion is the way to get there. Pedophilia is outlawed because, since children cannot consent to sex with an adult, it is rape of a child. It is not outlawed because you or I or anyone personally finds it repulsive.


We cannot dismiss topics simply out of a sense of personal disgust.

There is this opinion that those without any sense of a moral compass hold that feeling disgusted is something that is inherently irrational. The reason is because those who hold that view, themselves, have no moral compass and consequently lack the ability to distinguish right from wrong.

Okay. I arbitrarily decide that green shirts are disgusting. Now I can ban them from society? I don't think so.

We're not talking about shirts, green or otherwise, nor articles of clothing. It's astonishing that you would have the temerity to make such a stupid analogy, as well. The choice between what shirt to wear has nothing to do with, nor is it in any way like the choice over who/what to have sex with.

The analogy related to the means. Essentially you're claiming that, since you find the topic so reprehensible, it shouldn't be discussed.
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3/2/2014 8:48:04 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/2/2014 8:47:00 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:36:21 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:27:36 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:24:03 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:17:16 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:13:58 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:10:31 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:58:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:54:08 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
Is it just me, or has the volume of threads about sexually obscene material gotten too damn high?

Seriously...

Pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Incest and pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Another thread about pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

And beastiality/zoophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

This is just absurd. Immediate moderator action needs to be taken on every single one of these threads, their OP's need to be warned and if they refuse to comply they need to be permanently banned.

I was just freaking thinking about this. It's not that they are sexually inappropriate though; I think the discussions are legit if taken seriously. I just thought the sheer amount of them was strange.

Whether something is legal or not has no bearing on whether or not it should be posted on this site, and the kind of person who would make posts like any of these has no place in this community.

This is a surprising amount of unnaccpetance for something from a liberal. I legitimately mean that. Why shouldn't these topics be posted on DDO? Especially if they are meant to be legitimately discussed?

There is no legitimate defense of pedophilia, beastiality or incest -and being Liberal does not mean that I tolerate obscenity.

I'm with SeventhProfessor on this one. 40 years ago (had the Internet existed), you'd be saying the exact same thing about homosexuality.

That is one of the stupidest rebuffs I've ever heard. 40 years ago, as a gay man I would have made every effort to get ignorant people to understand the basic, fundamental attributes that differentiate homosexuality from sexual deviancy (i.e. pedophilia, beastiality and incest). And even if I weren't gay, realize that because society has progressed beyond manifest cultural bigotry to a considerable extent, that does not open the door for moral permissiveness on other fronts.

Like it or not, you can't deny the history shared between non-normative sexual practices.

This isn't about the history, it's about the principle. I know that there was once a time when society relegated homosexuality to the same category of sexual deviancy where deviancy was defined as anything that wasn't conspicuously heterosexual, consistent with conventional gender roles, etc. That homosexuality now occupies a different space doesn't mean that pedophilia, incest or beastiality have any claim to social acceptance.

I never claimed they did.

Accepting one does not slippery slope into accepting another, but you are using the same charged emotional appeals applied to one 40 years ago (and even today) and championing them as a means to discredit the others. This is wrong.

What do you mean by "charged emotional appeals"? I'm thinking that that is one of those stupid, meaningless platitudes you heard people say in response to opposition to gay rights. Realize, though, that whatever you mean by "charged emotional appeals," you're not making an argument against what I'm advocating for. You're critiquing the means, because you don't like them and for no other reason.

Sort of. You and I have the same end goal in mind, but I don't believe emotion and personal opinion is the way to get there. Pedophilia is outlawed because, since children cannot consent to sex with an adult, it is rape of a child. It is not outlawed because you or I or anyone personally finds it repulsive.


We cannot dismiss topics simply out of a sense of personal disgust.

There is this opinion that those without any sense of a moral compass hold that feeling disgusted is something that is inherently irrational. The reason is because those who hold that view, themselves, have no moral compass and consequently lack the ability to distinguish right from wrong.

Okay. I arbitrarily decide that green shirts are disgusting. Now I can ban them from society? I don't think so.

We're not talking about shirts, green or otherwise, nor articles of clothing. It's astonishing that you would have the temerity to make such a stupid analogy, as well. The choice between what shirt to wear has nothing to do with, nor is it in any way like the choice over who/what to have sex with.

The analogy related to the means. Essentially you're claiming that, since you find the topic so reprehensible, it shouldn't be discussed.

Fixed
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3/2/2014 9:15:01 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
I don't think that the topics of pedophilia, incest, bestiality etc should be automatically off-limits, but a post with obscene material like "I was a very cute 12 year old boy, honestly cute with a really awesome body; I myself loved the way I looked naked in the mirror" and "when we are pubescent boys we are just beautiful and sexy and cute, it is a simple true fact" is clearly ridiculous, and can only hurt DDO. Things like this should be removed.
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3/2/2014 9:34:51 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/2/2014 8:47:00 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:36:21 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:27:36 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:24:03 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:17:16 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:13:58 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 8:10:31 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:58:15 PM, YYW wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:54:08 PM, xXCryptoXx wrote:
At 3/2/2014 7:47:26 PM, YYW wrote:
Is it just me, or has the volume of threads about sexually obscene material gotten too damn high?

Seriously...

Pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Incest and pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

Another thread about pedophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

And beastiality/zoophilia:

http://www.debate.org...

This is just absurd. Immediate moderator action needs to be taken on every single one of these threads, their OP's need to be warned and if they refuse to comply they need to be permanently banned.

I was just freaking thinking about this. It's not that they are sexually inappropriate though; I think the discussions are legit if taken seriously. I just thought the sheer amount of them was strange.

Whether something is legal or not has no bearing on whether or not it should be posted on this site, and the kind of person who would make posts like any of these has no place in this community.

This is a surprising amount of unnaccpetance for something from a liberal. I legitimately mean that. Why shouldn't these topics be posted on DDO? Especially if they are meant to be legitimately discussed?

There is no legitimate defense of pedophilia, beastiality or incest -and being Liberal does not mean that I tolerate obscenity.

I'm with SeventhProfessor on this one. 40 years ago (had the Internet existed), you'd be saying the exact same thing about homosexuality.

That is one of the stupidest rebuffs I've ever heard. 40 years ago, as a gay man I would have made every effort to get ignorant people to understand the basic, fundamental attributes that differentiate homosexuality from sexual deviancy (i.e. pedophilia, beastiality and incest). And even if I weren't gay, realize that because society has progressed beyond manifest cultural bigotry to a considerable extent, that does not open the door for moral permissiveness on other fronts.

Like it or not, you can't deny the history shared between non-normative sexual practices.

This isn't about the history, it's about the principle. I know that there was once a time when society relegated homosexuality to the same category of sexual deviancy where deviancy was defined as anything that wasn't conspicuously heterosexual, consistent with conventional gender roles, etc. That homosexuality now occupies a different space doesn't mean that pedophilia, incest or beastiality have any claim to social acceptance.

I never claimed they did.

No, you didn't. What you said is that they should be discussed, or that advocacy for them at least shouldn't be silenced.


Accepting one does not slippery slope into accepting another, but you are using the same charged emotional appeals applied to one 40 years ago (and even today) and championing them as a means to discredit the others. This is wrong.

What do you mean by "charged emotional appeals"? I'm thinking that that is one of those stupid, meaningless platitudes you heard people say in response to opposition to gay rights. Realize, though, that whatever you mean by "charged emotional appeals," you're not making an argument against what I'm advocating for. You're critiquing the means, because you don't like them and for no other reason.

Sort of. You and I have the same end goal in mind, but I don't emotion and personal opinion is the way to get there. Pedophilia is outlawed because, since children cannot consent to sex with an adult, it is rape of a child.

Correct.

It is not outlawed because you or I or anyone personally finds it repulsive.

That is not what I said, nor is it an implication of what I said. Learn to read.



We cannot dismiss topics simply out of a sense of personal disgust.

There is this opinion that those without any sense of a moral compass hold that feeling disgusted is something that is inherently irrational. The reason is because those who hold that view, themselves, have no moral compass and consequently lack the ability to distinguish right from wrong.

Okay. I arbitrarily decide that green shirts are disgusting. Now I can ban them from society? I don't think so.

We're not talking about shirts, green or otherwise, nor articles of clothing. It's astonishing that you would have the temerity to make such a stupid analogy, as well. The choice between what shirt to wear has nothing to do with, nor is it in any way like the choice over who/what to have sex with.

The analogy related to the means. Essentially you're claiming that, since you find the topic so reprehensible, it shouldn't be discussed.

That's not what I said, nor is it an implication of what I said.
Tsar of DDO