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In defense of beastiality

bluesteel
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3/5/2014 7:56:24 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Our society defines rape as a less bad crime than killing. We can kill animals for pleasure (hunting). Why can't we have sex with animals for pleasure?

Boom. Proven.
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - Jonathan Swift (paraphrase)
sdavio
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3/5/2014 8:10:10 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/5/2014 7:56:24 AM, bluesteel wrote:
Our society defines rape as a less bad crime than killing. We can kill animals for pleasure (hunting). Why can't we have sex with animals for pleasure?

Boom. Proven.

Why go to that extreme rather than the other; that killing animals for pleasure etc is bad?
"Logic is the money of the mind." - Karl Marx
bluesteel
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3/5/2014 8:16:32 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/5/2014 8:10:10 AM, sdavio wrote:
At 3/5/2014 7:56:24 AM, bluesteel wrote:
Our society defines rape as a less bad crime than killing. We can kill animals for pleasure (hunting). Why can't we have sex with animals for pleasure?

Boom. Proven.

Why go to that extreme rather than the other; that killing animals for pleasure etc is bad?

Sure, but that's advocating a major change in our society. Anyway, you get to justifying bestiality even from eating meat, since we could replace animal flesh in our diets with vegetables if we were really concerned about the animals' welfare.
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - Jonathan Swift (paraphrase)
sdavio
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3/5/2014 8:18:26 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/5/2014 8:16:32 AM, bluesteel wrote:
Sure, but that's advocating a major change in our society. Anyway, you get to justifying bestiality even from eating meat, since we could replace animal flesh in our diets with vegetables if we were really concerned about the animals' welfare.

I agree that that would be consistent. So, why not care about animals' welfare?
"Logic is the money of the mind." - Karl Marx
dylancatlow
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3/5/2014 8:45:53 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/5/2014 7:56:24 AM, bluesteel wrote:
Our society defines rape as a less bad crime than killing. We can kill animals for pleasure (hunting). Why can't we have sex with animals for pleasure?

Boom. Proven.

Our society defines raping a human as less bad than killing a human. Obviously, it does not assign any value judgements to general "killing".
bluesteel
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3/5/2014 8:48:34 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/5/2014 8:18:26 AM, sdavio wrote:
At 3/5/2014 8:16:32 AM, bluesteel wrote:
Sure, but that's advocating a major change in our society. Anyway, you get to justifying bestiality even from eating meat, since we could replace animal flesh in our diets with vegetables if we were really concerned about the animals' welfare.

I agree that that would be consistent. So, why not care about animals' welfare?

Because steak and bacon is delicious.
You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into - Jonathan Swift (paraphrase)
ZMowlcher
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3/5/2014 10:27:55 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
Troll thread. I was looking forward into reading well thought out defenses of a practice that's extremely polarized around the world.
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Logical-Master
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3/5/2014 10:47:04 AM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 3/5/2014 7:56:24 AM, bluesteel wrote:
Our society defines rape as a less bad crime than killing. We can kill animals for pleasure (hunting). Why can't we have sex with animals for pleasure?

Boom. Proven.

Sure, I'll bite. Hunting = Animal Population Control. Overpopulation leads to death on a wide scale. Hunters love animals enough to give them a quick death as opposed to a long drawn out one with them suffering as a result of limited resources. Not to mention that with less animals running streets, less animal-induced car accidents, less animal induced illnesses and less animal induced homicides. Pure. Simple. Objective. On the other hand, no such objective good comes from getting it on with your hamster, so no dice! :D

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On a real note our society does not hold animals quite to the same standard as humans, but enough to recognize that we can't simply do whatever we want with them (i.e. medieval torture) . . .