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4/2/2014 8:20:45 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Here are some of DDO's thoughts on the new policy in this weeks podcast. Thanks to GCL, daytonanerd, Mikal, Larztheloser, philochristos, SeventhProfessor, RationalMadman, and Theoncoming storm for helping out in this podcast.

Later we had Tylergraham, Josh_b (I think?), MassiveDump, and crypto join us, though the podcast had already ended.

https://www.youtube.com...
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4/2/2014 8:24:55 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/2/2014 8:20:45 PM, TUF wrote:
Here are some of DDO's thoughts on the new policy in this weeks podcast. Thanks to GCL, daytonanerd, Mikal, Larztheloser, philochristos, SeventhProfessor, RationalMadman, and Theoncoming storm for helping out in this podcast.

Later we had Tylergraham, Josh_b (I think?), MassiveDump, and crypto join us, though the podcast had already ended.

https://www.youtube.com...

I miss RM. :'(
"not to toot my own horn (it aint need no tooin if u know what im saying), but my writings on "viciousness: the one true viture (fancy spelling for virtue)" and my poem "A poem I wrote about DDO" put me in a class of my damn own. im just an UNRECONGIZED geniuse" -bananafana
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4/2/2014 8:25:55 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/2/2014 8:20:45 PM, TUF wrote:
Here are some of DDO's thoughts on the new policy in this weeks podcast. Thanks to GCL, daytonanerd, Mikal, Larztheloser, philochristos, SeventhProfessor, RationalMadman, and Theoncoming storm for helping out in this podcast.

Later we had Tylergraham, Josh_b (I think?), MassiveDump, and crypto join us, though the podcast had already ended.

https://www.youtube.com...

I didn't help very much, haha. I was the only straight con I believe, lol.
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4/2/2014 8:26:21 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/2/2014 8:24:55 PM, emospongebob527 wrote:
At 4/2/2014 8:20:45 PM, TUF wrote:
Here are some of DDO's thoughts on the new policy in this weeks podcast. Thanks to GCL, daytonanerd, Mikal, Larztheloser, philochristos, SeventhProfessor, RationalMadman, and Theoncoming storm for helping out in this podcast.

Later we had Tylergraham, Josh_b (I think?), MassiveDump, and crypto join us, though the podcast had already ended.

https://www.youtube.com...

I miss RM. :'(

Why, he's here? I'll let you figure out who lol
"I've got to go and grab a shirt" ~ Airmax1227
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4/2/2014 8:27:37 PM
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At 4/2/2014 8:26:21 PM, TUF wrote:
At 4/2/2014 8:24:55 PM, emospongebob527 wrote:
At 4/2/2014 8:20:45 PM, TUF wrote:
Here are some of DDO's thoughts on the new policy in this weeks podcast. Thanks to GCL, daytonanerd, Mikal, Larztheloser, philochristos, SeventhProfessor, RationalMadman, and Theoncoming storm for helping out in this podcast.

Later we had Tylergraham, Josh_b (I think?), MassiveDump, and crypto join us, though the podcast had already ended.

https://www.youtube.com...

I miss RM. :'(

Why, he's here? I'll let you figure out who lol

-.- y u do dis, Connor?
"not to toot my own horn (it aint need no tooin if u know what im saying), but my writings on "viciousness: the one true viture (fancy spelling for virtue)" and my poem "A poem I wrote about DDO" put me in a class of my damn own. im just an UNRECONGIZED geniuse" -bananafana
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4/2/2014 8:30:38 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/2/2014 8:24:55 PM, emospongebob527 wrote:
At 4/2/2014 8:20:45 PM, TUF wrote:
Here are some of DDO's thoughts on the new policy in this weeks podcast. Thanks to GCL, daytonanerd, Mikal, Larztheloser, philochristos, SeventhProfessor, RationalMadman, and Theoncoming storm for helping out in this podcast.

Later we had Tylergraham, Josh_b (I think?), MassiveDump, and crypto join us, though the podcast had already ended.

https://www.youtube.com...

I miss RM. :'(

Who was he?
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4/2/2014 8:30:45 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/2/2014 8:27:37 PM, emospongebob527 wrote:
At 4/2/2014 8:26:21 PM, TUF wrote:
At 4/2/2014 8:24:55 PM, emospongebob527 wrote:
At 4/2/2014 8:20:45 PM, TUF wrote:
Here are some of DDO's thoughts on the new policy in this weeks podcast. Thanks to GCL, daytonanerd, Mikal, Larztheloser, philochristos, SeventhProfessor, RationalMadman, and Theoncoming storm for helping out in this podcast.

Later we had Tylergraham, Josh_b (I think?), MassiveDump, and crypto join us, though the podcast had already ended.

https://www.youtube.com...

I miss RM. :'(

Why, he's here? I'll let you figure out who lol

-.- y u do dis, Connor?

*shrugs*
"I've got to go and grab a shirt" ~ Airmax1227
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4/2/2014 8:31:28 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/2/2014 8:30:45 PM, TUF wrote:
At 4/2/2014 8:27:37 PM, emospongebob527 wrote:
At 4/2/2014 8:26:21 PM, TUF wrote:
At 4/2/2014 8:24:55 PM, emospongebob527 wrote:
At 4/2/2014 8:20:45 PM, TUF wrote:
Here are some of DDO's thoughts on the new policy in this weeks podcast. Thanks to GCL, daytonanerd, Mikal, Larztheloser, philochristos, SeventhProfessor, RationalMadman, and Theoncoming storm for helping out in this podcast.

Later we had Tylergraham, Josh_b (I think?), MassiveDump, and crypto join us, though the podcast had already ended.

https://www.youtube.com...

I miss RM. :'(

Why, he's here? I'll let you figure out who lol

-.- y u do dis, Connor?

*shrugs*

Give me a hint.
"not to toot my own horn (it aint need no tooin if u know what im saying), but my writings on "viciousness: the one true viture (fancy spelling for virtue)" and my poem "A poem I wrote about DDO" put me in a class of my damn own. im just an UNRECONGIZED geniuse" -bananafana
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4/2/2014 8:34:15 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/2/2014 8:31:28 PM, emospongebob527 wrote:
At 4/2/2014 8:30:45 PM, TUF wrote:
At 4/2/2014 8:27:37 PM, emospongebob527 wrote:
At 4/2/2014 8:26:21 PM, TUF wrote:
At 4/2/2014 8:24:55 PM, emospongebob527 wrote:
At 4/2/2014 8:20:45 PM, TUF wrote:
Here are some of DDO's thoughts on the new policy in this weeks podcast. Thanks to GCL, daytonanerd, Mikal, Larztheloser, philochristos, SeventhProfessor, RationalMadman, and Theoncoming storm for helping out in this podcast.

Later we had Tylergraham, Josh_b (I think?), MassiveDump, and crypto join us, though the podcast had already ended.

https://www.youtube.com...

I miss RM. :'(

Why, he's here? I'll let you figure out who lol

-.- y u do dis, Connor?

*shrugs*

Give me a hint.

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4/2/2014 8:38:42 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/2/2014 8:20:45 PM, TUF wrote:
Here are some of DDO's thoughts on the new policy in this weeks podcast. Thanks to GCL, daytonanerd, Mikal, Larztheloser, philochristos, SeventhProfessor, RationalMadman, and Theoncoming storm for helping out in this podcast.

Later we had Tylergraham, Josh_b (I think?), MassiveDump, and crypto join us, though the podcast had already ended.

https://www.youtube.com...

Really sorry about the complications on my end. I'm actually going to see if I can get my mic to start working and everything and record a short video to put up here to still contribute :P
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4/2/2014 9:02:08 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
Nobody on there considered that Airmax will not be the head moderator for all eternity. What happens when there's a moderator who's not as, shall we say, lenient?
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4/2/2014 9:03:58 PM
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At 4/2/2014 9:02:08 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
Nobody on there considered that Airmax will not be the head moderator for all eternity. What happens when there's a moderator who's not as, shall we say, lenient?

Airmax is the all hailing king of DDO's law enforcement forever....!
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4/2/2014 9:06:36 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/2/2014 9:03:58 PM, TUF wrote:
At 4/2/2014 9:02:08 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
Nobody on there considered that Airmax will not be the head moderator for all eternity. What happens when there's a moderator who's not as, shall we say, lenient?

Airmax is the all hailing king of DDO's law enforcement forever....!

Funny, but not a serious rebuttal to a serious concern.
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4/2/2014 9:10:56 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/2/2014 9:02:08 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
Nobody on there considered that Airmax will not be the head moderator for all eternity. What happens when there's a moderator who's not as, shall we say, lenient?

As I kind of said, I don't even believe Airmax has always been as nice as everyone here made him out to be. But I also think this policy changes nothing. Moderator's rules have always been vaguely defined and arbitrary, and this policy merely codifies that further (if that's even possible). The real issue ought to be the moderator's commitment to resolving harassment and like complaints, while respecting genuine criticism and a free marketplace of ideas. If a bad mod appears, it will be the same under this policy as before. I've said for years this site needs checks and balances.
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4/2/2014 9:20:00 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/2/2014 9:10:56 PM, larztheloser wrote:
At 4/2/2014 9:02:08 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
Nobody on there considered that Airmax will not be the head moderator for all eternity. What happens when there's a moderator who's not as, shall we say, lenient?

As I kind of said, I don't even believe Airmax has always been as nice as everyone here made him out to be. But I also think this policy changes nothing. Moderator's rules have always been vaguely defined and arbitrary, and this policy merely codifies that further (if that's even possible). The real issue ought to be the moderator's commitment to resolving harassment and like complaints, while respecting genuine criticism and a free marketplace of ideas. If a bad mod appears, it will be the same under this policy as before. I've said for years this site needs checks and balances.

To the bolded, I actually do see airmax as doing that.

As a side note, he is supposed to be an enforcer, not a mediator. In light of that his "niceness" has saved me and many others from being banned, considering he really doesn't have to be "nice" haha.
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4/2/2014 9:40:21 PM
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At 4/2/2014 9:10:56 PM, larztheloser wrote:
At 4/2/2014 9:02:08 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
Nobody on there considered that Airmax will not be the head moderator for all eternity. What happens when there's a moderator who's not as, shall we say, lenient?

As I kind of said, I don't even believe Airmax has always been as nice as everyone here made him out to be. But I also think this policy changes nothing. Moderator's rules have always been vaguely defined and arbitrary, and this policy merely codifies that further (if that's even possible). The real issue ought to be the moderator's commitment to resolving harassment and like complaints, while respecting genuine criticism and a free marketplace of ideas. If a bad mod appears, it will be the same under this policy as before. I've said for years this site needs checks and balances.

I don't think the old policy sauntered into our bedrooms and monitored every word we say. And if it did, it never should have. I absolutely agree that hate speech and harassment should be punishable offenses. But I disagree with the extent and severity of this policy. If it changes nothing, it was unnecessary.
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4/2/2014 9:44:49 PM
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At 4/2/2014 8:20:45 PM, TUF wrote:
Here are some of DDO's thoughts on the new policy in this weeks podcast. Thanks to GCL, daytonanerd, Mikal, Larztheloser, philochristos, SeventhProfessor, RationalMadman, and Theoncoming storm for helping out in this podcast.

Later we had Tylergraham, Josh_b (I think?), MassiveDump, and crypto join us, though the podcast had already ended.

https://www.youtube.com...

I was there.
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4/2/2014 9:48:34 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/2/2014 9:40:21 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 4/2/2014 9:10:56 PM, larztheloser wrote:
At 4/2/2014 9:02:08 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
Nobody on there considered that Airmax will not be the head moderator for all eternity. What happens when there's a moderator who's not as, shall we say, lenient?

As I kind of said, I don't even believe Airmax has always been as nice as everyone here made him out to be. But I also think this policy changes nothing. Moderator's rules have always been vaguely defined and arbitrary, and this policy merely codifies that further (if that's even possible). The real issue ought to be the moderator's commitment to resolving harassment and like complaints, while respecting genuine criticism and a free marketplace of ideas. If a bad mod appears, it will be the same under this policy as before. I've said for years this site needs checks and balances.

I don't think the old policy sauntered into our bedrooms and monitored every word we say. And if it did, it never should have. I absolutely agree that hate speech and harassment should be punishable offenses. But I disagree with the extent and severity of this policy. If it changes nothing, it was unnecessary.

I think you have a valid point that if this policy were to be enforced to its fullest, DDO will be in danger. As I also said, you don't need a blanket ban if the rules against bullying and harassment were actually working. But I have it on record that moderators will do things even outside of site rules if they think it's good for the site. If you trusted the moderators before this policy, then this change gives no more or less reason to trust them.
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4/2/2014 9:51:33 PM
Posted: 2 years ago
At 4/2/2014 9:48:34 PM, larztheloser wrote:
At 4/2/2014 9:40:21 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
At 4/2/2014 9:10:56 PM, larztheloser wrote:
At 4/2/2014 9:02:08 PM, EndarkenedRationalist wrote:
Nobody on there considered that Airmax will not be the head moderator for all eternity. What happens when there's a moderator who's not as, shall we say, lenient?

As I kind of said, I don't even believe Airmax has always been as nice as everyone here made him out to be. But I also think this policy changes nothing. Moderator's rules have always been vaguely defined and arbitrary, and this policy merely codifies that further (if that's even possible). The real issue ought to be the moderator's commitment to resolving harassment and like complaints, while respecting genuine criticism and a free marketplace of ideas. If a bad mod appears, it will be the same under this policy as before. I've said for years this site needs checks and balances.

I don't think the old policy sauntered into our bedrooms and monitored every word we say. And if it did, it never should have. I absolutely agree that hate speech and harassment should be punishable offenses. But I disagree with the extent and severity of this policy. If it changes nothing, it was unnecessary.

I think you have a valid point that if this policy were to be enforced to its fullest, DDO will be in danger. As I also said, you don't need a blanket ban if the rules against bullying and harassment were actually working. But I have it on record that moderators will do things even outside of site rules if they think it's good for the site. If you trusted the moderators before this policy, then this change gives no more or less reason to trust them.

I can agree with not needing a blanket ban if the rules were working. And I believe that moderators might act outside the site rules. That's hardly encouraging. I might trust Airmax, but that doesn't mean I trust moderators in general.
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4/2/2014 10:48:35 PM
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At 4/2/2014 8:20:45 PM, TUF wrote:
Here are some of DDO's thoughts on the new policy in this weeks podcast. Thanks to GCL, daytonanerd, Mikal, Larztheloser, philochristos, SeventhProfessor, RationalMadman, and Theoncoming storm for helping out in this podcast.

Later we had Tylergraham, Josh_b (I think?), MassiveDump, and crypto join us, though the podcast had already ended.

https://www.youtube.com...

Is there a way to know when the next one is happening? I have Google+ and would enjoy watching these hangouts/podcasts unfold live if possible.
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4/2/2014 11:26:55 PM
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At 4/2/2014 10:48:35 PM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
At 4/2/2014 8:20:45 PM, TUF wrote:
Here are some of DDO's thoughts on the new policy in this weeks podcast. Thanks to GCL, daytonanerd, Mikal, Larztheloser, philochristos, SeventhProfessor, RationalMadman, and Theoncoming storm for helping out in this podcast.

Later we had Tylergraham, Josh_b (I think?), MassiveDump, and crypto join us, though the podcast had already ended.

https://www.youtube.com...

Is there a way to know when the next one is happening? I have Google+ and would enjoy watching these hangouts/podcasts unfold live if possible.

It's hard to plan these as a lot of times people are on different schedules. I started this spur of the moment because a lot of people happened to be online. We can try to coordinate one in the future though
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4/2/2014 11:36:27 PM
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At 4/2/2014 10:48:35 PM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
At 4/2/2014 8:20:45 PM, TUF wrote:
Here are some of DDO's thoughts on the new policy in this weeks podcast. Thanks to GCL, daytonanerd, Mikal, Larztheloser, philochristos, SeventhProfessor, RationalMadman, and Theoncoming storm for helping out in this podcast.

Later we had Tylergraham, Josh_b (I think?), MassiveDump, and crypto join us, though the podcast had already ended.

https://www.youtube.com...

Is there a way to know when the next one is happening? I have Google+ and would enjoy watching these hangouts/podcasts unfold live if possible.

you have google+
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4/2/2014 11:37:33 PM
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At 4/2/2014 11:26:55 PM, TUF wrote:
At 4/2/2014 10:48:35 PM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
At 4/2/2014 8:20:45 PM, TUF wrote:
Here are some of DDO's thoughts on the new policy in this weeks podcast. Thanks to GCL, daytonanerd, Mikal, Larztheloser, philochristos, SeventhProfessor, RationalMadman, and Theoncoming storm for helping out in this podcast.

Later we had Tylergraham, Josh_b (I think?), MassiveDump, and crypto join us, though the podcast had already ended.

https://www.youtube.com...

Is there a way to know when the next one is happening? I have Google+ and would enjoy watching these hangouts/podcasts unfold live if possible.

It's hard to plan these as a lot of times people are on different schedules. I started this spur of the moment because a lot of people happened to be online. We can try to coordinate one in the future though

Understandable. I can't speak for others, but I'd certainly enjoy sitting in and listening. Same for the live debates! Perhaps I'm just generally enthusiastic for the possibility of having more video-based interaction being brought to the site, lol. I believe it would add a whole new dimension that would be welcomed by many!
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4/2/2014 11:39:07 PM
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At 4/2/2014 11:36:27 PM, GodChoosesLife wrote:
At 4/2/2014 10:48:35 PM, Blade-of-Truth wrote:
At 4/2/2014 8:20:45 PM, TUF wrote:
Here are some of DDO's thoughts on the new policy in this weeks podcast. Thanks to GCL, daytonanerd, Mikal, Larztheloser, philochristos, SeventhProfessor, RationalMadman, and Theoncoming storm for helping out in this podcast.

Later we had Tylergraham, Josh_b (I think?), MassiveDump, and crypto join us, though the podcast had already ended.

https://www.youtube.com...

Is there a way to know when the next one is happening? I have Google+ and would enjoy watching these hangouts/podcasts unfold live if possible.

you have google+

Yup, I'm not well-versed in using it though. If you PM me I'll give you my last name and we can link up!
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4/4/2014 6:47:43 PM
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At 4/2/2014 8:20:45 PM, TUF wrote:
Here are some of DDO's thoughts on the new policy in this weeks podcast. Thanks to GCL, daytonanerd, Mikal, Larztheloser, philochristos, SeventhProfessor, RationalMadman, and Theoncoming storm for helping out in this podcast.

Later we had Tylergraham, Josh_b (I think?), MassiveDump, and crypto join us, though the podcast had already ended.

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4/4/2014 8:19:57 PM
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At 4/4/2014 8:08:33 PM, Orpheus wrote:
omg who is RM?!

RationalMadman, AKA Ristaker, AKA MentallyDefunctNoob AKA a bunch of other new accounts I already forgot.
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4/4/2014 8:28:12 PM
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At 4/4/2014 8:19:57 PM, TUF wrote:
At 4/4/2014 8:08:33 PM, Orpheus wrote:
omg who is RM?!

RationalMadman, AKA Ristaker, AKA MentallyDefunctNoob AKA a bunch of other new accounts I already forgot.

All closed?
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4/4/2014 9:51:31 PM
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At 4/2/2014 8:20:45 PM, TUF wrote:
Here are some of DDO's thoughts on the new policy in this weeks podcast. Thanks to GCL, daytonanerd, Mikal, Larztheloser, philochristos, SeventhProfessor, RationalMadman, and Theoncoming storm for helping out in this podcast.

Later we had Tylergraham, Josh_b (I think?), MassiveDump, and crypto join us, though the podcast had already ended.

https://www.youtube.com...

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